China should not interfere in Indian affairs: IAF

[Spring Onion]

The real reason of your siding with China is nervous breakdown of 1971 and Indian Kashmir.

Since you could not save East Pakistan from being Bangladesh and still dont have Srinagar obviously you are enjoying the Chinese jumping here and there hoping India will loose AP.



My exact emotions for Baloch people.

GB

You are still suffering from off Topic syndrom due to frustration.

Stay on topic.


I cant say about anyone else but I would love to see Chinese infulence against India.

I would support every Chinese Move against India.

 

[WarProfessor]

Recover it if you can or else have some logical discussion.

Arunachal voted more than Maharashtra. I thought that was quite enough.

GB

The most logical discussion I could ever imagine to the AP issue is:"I will take a very big gun with me to go to the negotiation table."

And since it seems you are doing it quite well. I imagine your only suspense is how big a gun China would bring with her.

The second part has no weight. It's nothing but a political manipulation. Also, your statement is misleading. Their opinion has no weight as to whom the land their feet standing on rightfully belong.
Your statement will be thrown out of court by any judge immediately.

Objections? Overruled.

 

[Spring Onion]

with India interfering in Chinese affairs viz viz Tibet, i dont see any reason the Indian airforce to issue such a statement

 

[gogbot]

The most logical discussion I could ever imagine to the AP issue is:"I will take a very big gun with me to go to the negotiation table."

And since it seems you are doing it quite well. I imagine your only suspense is how big a gun China would bring with her.

The second part has no weight. It's nothing but a political manipulation. Also, your statement is misleading. Their opinion has no weight as to whom the land their feet standing on rightfully belong.
Your statement will be thrown out of court by any judge immediately.

Objections? Overruled.

Good for us,

You live in a communist country ,
where your opinion means absolutely nothing.
Be quite and do as the CCP tells you to do.

 

[WarProfessor]

Chinese built the great wall to protect thier kingdom.look where the great wall is not and where the territory they are claiming is now?

its insane to keep on claiming every piece of land.

Fine then, we will surrender our territory to genghis khan's today's Mogolia; And you invite British to come over and rule. Americans surrender their USA to Spaniards; Canada gives their land back to native Indians. Germans re-kowtow to the Italians; and Iranians give their land back to Turks. etc. etc. etc. etc.

I think it's not that insane.

 

[gogbot]

with India interfering in Chinese affairs viz viz Tibet, i dont see any reason the Indian airforce to issue such a statement

The Dalia Lama still has his personal rights to do as he pleases in the boundary of the law.
What do you want us to do execute him

Plus can you tell me the last time India even mention Tibet in an official comment.

 

[WarProfessor]

Good for us,

You live in a communist country ,
where your opinion means absolutely nothing.
Be quite and do as the CCP tells you to do.

I couldn't follow your Indian logic here. A lot of countries today seem to be more willing to listen to CCP's opinions.

A. Democracy failed since the Iraq war.
B. I ain't that previleged enough for CCP to tell me what to do.
C. You also failed to notice the other flag under my avitar.

 

[gubbi]

I couldn't follow your Indian logic here. A lot of countries today seem to be more willing to listen to CCP's opinions.

A. Democracy failed since the Iraq war.
B. I ain't that previleged enough for CCP to tell me what to do.
C. You also failed to notice the other flag under my avitar.

Logic comes with an independent thinking capability, a process developed through free thinking schooling years. Unfortunately, it is for you but a foreign concept and we do sympathize with your lot.

A lot of countries listen to Palestinian complaints about Israeli "atrocities" too. Do they do anything? Nah! A lot of them listen to Pakistani claims on Kashmir, what do they do? Likewise a lot of countries listen to China, the question is, how do they act upon it? Irrelevant statement, comrade.

point A -irrelevant, but just FYI, Iraq does hold elections and people vote. Democracy is alive and kicking there. Do you understand what a vote is?
point B - no comments, they did whatever propaganda indoctrination they could during your schooling. Point moot.
point C - Enjoy the privileges accorded to you, hard won by a great number of sacrifices by US citizens, by being a guest in this country and then bit*h about it as corrupt western standards. Why dont you just go back 'home' if you don't like what US stands for? eh? Hypocrisy at its best?

 

[gogbot]

I couldn't follow your Indian logic here. A lot of countries today seem to be more willing to listen to CCP's opinions.

A. Democracy failed since the Iraq war.
B. I ain't that previleged enough for CCP to tell me what to do.
C. You also failed to notice the other flag under my avitar.

So when the Berlin wall fell democracy was the way to go.
but when one country attacks Iraq, democracy fails all over the world ?

No one would want to live in a communist state long term. if they lived in a democracy.

I didn't say "no one was listening to CCP". CCP is government of CHina its important and powerful.
what i said was
Who does the CCP listen to ? not you
By its very nature the people of China have little or no say in what the CCP does.
Of course the CCP is improving China. but Chines people have no business discussing or debating politics.
Because at the end of the day, what they think or believe does not matter.

What the CCP says the CCP does.

You and all the Chinese internet users can have as many political debates as you want.

but at the end of the day, none of your opinions matter as none of you have any say at all in what China does.
All power is with CCP so when i want to know China's opinion i will check the CCP.

By the way a political debate or a public debate is a democratic system, so i will let you decide how much democracy is fail.

in fact this forum, the whole bloody internet is the amalgamation of democracy. (freedom of expression)

 

[WarProfessor]

So when the Berlin wall fell democracy was the way to go.
but when one country attacks Iraq, democracy fails all over the world ?

No one would want to live in a communist state long term. if they lived in a democracy.

Your right a lot of countries are listening to the CCP, which is the government of China.
But Who does the CCP listen to ?
By its very nature the people of China have little or no say in what the CCP does.
Of course the CCP is improving China. but Chines people have no business discussing or debating politics.
Because at the end of the day, what they think or believe does not matter.

What the CCP says the CCP does.

You and all the Chinese internet users can have as many political debates as you want.

but at the end of the day, none of your opinions matter as none of you have any say at all in what China does.
All power is with CCP so when i want to know China's opinion i will check the CCP.

By the way a political debate or a public debate is a democratic system, so i will let you decide how much democracy is fail.

in fact this forum, the whole bloody internet is the amalgamation of democracy. (freedom of expression)

I will only respond to the Berlin wall part. Today, majority of German citizens from the former east-Germany believed that had a better life when their "country" is a socialist country. It was posted on a German website SPIEGEL ONLINE - Nachrichten. Obviously, Ich Kann Deutsch Sprechen Nicht. I read the English version, if you are interested, I hope you can still find it somwehere.

 

[gogbot]

I will only respond to the Berlin wall part. Today, majority of German citizens from the former east-Germany believed that had a better life when their "country" is a socialist country. It was posted on a German website SPIEGEL ONLINE - Nachrichten. Obviously, Ich Kann Deutsch Sprechen Nicht. I read the English version, if you are interested, I hope you can still find it somwehere.

Hm i couldn't find the article, u have to provide a better link

but this goes against everything that happened during the end of the cold war.

Mass protest's and marches.
Clearly they were not happy under communist rule,
If the article was true why did they break down the wall ?

and kudos sir,
for you avoiding to address the majority of my previous post
i would like to re-state my previous point "Chinese people have no say in political decisions True or false"
All power lies in CCP so If Indians want to know china's opinion just listen to CCP as the opinions of its people is irrelevant.

 

[Goodperson]

with India interfering in Chinese affairs viz viz Tibet, i dont see any reason the Indian airforce to issue such a statement

You yourself started the topic

Do you know Armed forces of a country support the Govt and People what did you expect IAF to do ? Take over GOI by means of coup?

 

[haawk]

they might someday claim new york.....the great wall restricts their teritory to the west......they can claim new york .....in their east coz jackie chan....conqured it in shangai noon

 

[WarProfessor]

Hm i couldn't find the article, u have to provide a better link

but this goes against everything that happened during the end of the cold war.

Mass protest's and marches.
Clearly they were not happy under communist rule,
If the article was true why did they break down the wall ?

and kudos sir,
for you avoiding to address the majority of my previous post
i would like to re-state my previous point "Chinese people have no say in political decisions True or false"
All power lies in CCP so If Indians want to know china's opinion just listen to CCP as the opinions of its people is irrelevant.

I won't give what you want to hear. But I will give you this instead, In most times, only money is relevant in political decisions. As far as freedom and democracy is concerned, if you have no money, your only freedom in a democratic country is to sit your *** there all day, and maybe, using fat fingers typing.

If you have a problem with CCP take it to TianAnMen square see what happens. Don't like Saudis? You can't come close to Saudi embassy in Washington per Michael Moore's movie scene.

A. Stupid American kids went out on streets in 1960'(1969)s.
B. Stupid Chinese kids went out on streets in 1980'(1989)s,
C. Stupid Iranian kids went out on streets in 2000'(2009)s.

2020(2029), India cares to try?

There is a reason why all countries are led by their elders. Think about it. If you are confused, I suggest consult your father first.

You find your own way.

 

[Renegade]

The Vice Chief of Air Staff, Air Mrashal P.K.Barbora PVSM,VM,ADC is quiet a reputed fighter pilot in the IAF - he peroformed a maneuver in a Mig-21 which even the manufacturers did think that the fighter was capable of. His squadron of Mig-21's (of which he was the CO) also defeated a squadron of Jaguar aircraft at the Gunners Meet (India's Top Gun), which was a very commendable given the fact that the Jaguar is a vastly superior aircraft to the Mig and enjoyed a reputation then which is enjoyed by the Su-30 MKI in the IAF today and no one in the IAF had thought that this feat was possible.