China should not interfere in Indian affairs: IAF

[Beskar]

Enough with the personal attacks and useless comments. Stick to the topic and address the issue. Any more personal attacks and offensive comments, and you'll earn yourself an infraction.

 

[oceanx]

Hello War Professor, get this thing inside deep...

If you ever attack AP to wrest it from the Union of India, we will probably be destroyed

As the founder of Pakistan once said: We will have Hindustan divided or we will have Hindustan destroyed

Trust us, we are going to do the same, we will see how red is the color of Han blood as compared to INDIAN blood...

This is the spirit that defends a nation. Everything else is just mud-slinging and pig wrestling.

But Saffron and Han chauvinist pigs love to wrestle in mud - that we all know.

 

[New Vision]

A friend of mine visited me yesterday who has been to China only a week back. He described china as great country with unimaginable development but excessively populated. China is in need of land and natural resources more than any other country in the world and if they are unable to arrange that, they couldn't sustain their marvelous growth which they would never like to slow down. Considering that, you can understand what is making them demand their territory back.

In that case India has a claim over China Pakistan, Srilannka, Bangladesh, Russia, Iran , Afganishtan Nepal ,etc, compare the density of population. We need more space not the chinese, they are about 3 times our size and only about 15% more in population

 

[paritosh]

with India interfering in Chinese affairs viz viz Tibet, i dont see any reason the Indian airforce to issue such a statement

and how is India interfering in Tibet?

 

[New Vision]

You failed to refute any my arguments:

"You can't stop China settled all land dispute with its neighbors but India.

you can't stop India from not resolving land dispute with any its neighbors, to have its imperialistic mentally alive, just as imperialistic british.

You can not expect Indians to vote away hunger, illiteracy."


Now admit your problem, and try to fix it. Don't find excuses for your own countryman's sake!

You democratically elected politicians suck!

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Firstly I strongly suggest you change one of your flags, Communist Russia went into shambles once it decided to go Democratic, if China decided to go that way it would be the same scenario.Democracy is not about wealth, its about freedom. Your posts suggest that China is poverty free, I would beg to disagree. In fact the Chinese people (labour) are exploited.I dont know if it is leagal for them to have Unions, I think not. You talk about India being illetaerate and poor, but if you compare from the 70's things have changed drastically. Even the west has poverty and things are improving. One draw back is the quality of politicians that are dragging the speed of reform. Just as you said there are different types of democracies and yes if we are wrong about the ones we elect , we have 5 years or less to change our minds, unliket he communist. you are prisoners in your own land, you fear your officials, your punishments are harsh, you still have corruption, so why would you want to remain communist

 

[New Vision]

and how is India interfering in Tibet?

Yes tell me how, especially since India has officially stated that Tibet is part of China

 

[dvk1982]

Enough with the personal attacks and useless comments. Stick to the topic and address the issue. Any more personal attacks and offensive comments, and you'll earn yourself an infraction.

why was my simple message deleted ?? I made no personal attacks...
Jana comes up every day and claims on top of her mind sth sh**t.. example today she claimed India interferes in Tibet, which is news to everyone !!
those baseless propaganda's and flames aren't deleted but my post on advising her to worry abt her country gets deleted in the name of troll (i assumed)

Is this impartial treatment to members

 

[sathruvinasakh]

You failed to refute any my arguments:

"You can't stop China settled all land dispute with its neighbors but India.

you can't stop India from not resolving land dispute with any its neighbors, to have its imperialistic mentally alive, just as imperialistic british.

You can not expect Indians to vote away hunger, illiteracy."

Just as there are different types of communism, there are different kinds of democracy.

I see US democracy works relatively fine domestically, because, by and large, people live well. If 40% of American children suffered hunger, 40% of total population were illiterate, I'd cry out. I may move out to another country to prevent my children from being stunted. Actually, you (and other countries as well) make democracy look bad.

Now admit your problem, and try to fix it. Don't find excuses for your own countryman's sake!

You democratically elected politicians suck!

Finally there you are where I want you to be.

Its good that your are comparing US to India where both countries are ruled by properly elected democratic governments.
But at the same time get some facts and life to make your comparison more meaning full.

US got their independence from Brits a way back in 18 th century.And it has a pretty much natural resources manytimes more compared to India.during the time of independence US was full of native american tribes.And washington clubbed them all together after winning a civil war .Since then its took 200 years for US to become a superpower and still having 20% of its 300 million people living in poverty.And 26% of the same 300 million dont have proper health and only at rare cases they crossed the hospital doors.
Dont simply make a judgment after looking at few localities in California and newyork.Do you know how many people in US are still living on footpaths and in the small streets of newyork?

And compared to that India :A country with 1.2 billion population which is 4 times the US and got independence only 65 years back and was being fully robbed by brits and left as a poor country in the 1950 economy stats on UN.It took 30 years for India to take care of all the border issues and wars.After things settled down only in the late 90`s the economic liberalization started.and In 12 years it became a 2nd largest developing nation only after China.At the same time it eradicated millions from poverty and hunger.Many poor turned into middle class while many middle became rich.Being a worlds LARGEST DEMOCRACY with 1.2 billion living in a confined space,it takes time ,even for the so called creator/mentor GOD .

Any comments only after 2020 regarding poverty,health facilities,blah blah can be counted.But not today.Even though we take every comment as a suggestion and try to workout at our best.

P.S: today the BPL in India is 26%. i.e 312 million which is `~ the population of US.
Still it is a good achievement that the figure 12 years back was 45% i.e 540 million.
And analyse yourself at the given rate it wont take longer than 2020 as per what I stated to lift every one from poverty and providing good sanitary/education/health and so on.

 

[Nemesis]

72% people from Arunachal Pradesh voted in the elections - more than the average turnout in India. We really don't need to provide any other argument. Chinese posters can continue whining about India's "imperialist ambitions", it's "castedemocracy", etc etc etc. No one cares and no one takes you seriously.

I'll just add that inspite of the whining by certain members, there is nothing that the CPC can do to change the situation. Nothing.

why was my simple message deleted ?? I made no personal attacks...
Jana comes up every day and claims on top of her mind sth sh**t.. example today she claimed India interferes in Tibet, which is news to everyone !!
those baseless propaganda's and flames aren't deleted but my post on advising her to worry abt her country gets deleted in the name of troll (i assumed)

Is this impartial treatment to members

Baseless propaganda is allowed on this forum. How else do you explain mutiple threads on India being responsible for the events in Pakistan

 

[Renegade]

Yes, Jaguar is an advanced aircraft to the Mig-21's. But the design concept of both these aircraft were different.Jaguars IIRC, were developed to replace the Phantom F-4s for strike and CAS roles, making them essentially ground attack aircraft from the ground up.

Just because the Jaguar's main role was as a strike & close air support dosent make it a less potent dogfighter. On the contrary the Jaguar is rated as a better dogfighter than the Mig-21.

OTOH, Mig-21s were a continuation of SU designs for a fast attack/interceptor/fighter aircraft - basically an air-air role - with very short legs. A comparison between a Mi-27 and a Jaguar (both strike aircraft) is more appropriate.

Stop departmentalising fighter aircraft in a singular role, it just what a rookie would do. I am quoting Air Marshal P.K.Barbora in his own words, "Jaguars where the state-of-the-art fighters then, unbeatable in any contest, but i was determined that MiG would not be the poor country cousins against them," he says. (Page-17, FORCE October 2009).
Do you think that you know more about fighter aircraft than the Vice Chief of Air Staff of the IAF himself!!!????

All the above planes are considered to be 3rd generation jet aircraft!IIRC Pakistani procurement of F-16s had nothing to do with IAF's Jaguars.

Did the PAF tell you that or you just thought it up in a dream?? Stop talking like a kid withought any background understanding of the situation. I can agian provide irrefutable proof from both the PAF and IAF sources about my statement. Next time know what you are talking about before shooting off your mouth first and then having to eat your words later.

 

[aimarraul]

since when the disputed area become Indian affairs

 

[pmukherjee]

72% people from Arunachal Pradesh voted in the elections - more than the average turnout in India. We really don't need to provide any other argument. Chinese posters can continue whining about India's "imperialist ambitions", it's "castedemocracy", etc etc etc. No one cares and no one takes you seriously.

I'll just add that inspite of the whining by certain members, there is nothing that the CPC can do to change the situation. Nothing.




Baseless propaganda is allowed on this forum. How else do you explain mutiple threads on India being responsible for the events in Pakistan

Dont blame them for they know not what they say. What can you say about people who get their daily 'news and views' from the likes of Zaid Hamid, 'Pakistan's great Defense Analyst'?

 

[AliFarooq]

Thats their prob.

India has what it wants , and wants no more.

Apparently thats indias problem regarding Kashmir.

india does want more.

 

[pmukherjee]

Just because the Jaguar's main role was as a strike & close air support dosent make it a less potent dogfighter. On the contrary the Jaguar is rated as a better dogfighter than the Mig-21.........................

Hey guys, stop it will you. Kiss and make up if you have to - promise, we wont object (Delhi High Court says it is allowed). Last thing we need is a civil war on the forum.

 

[gogbot]

I won't give what you want to hear. But I will give you this instead, In most times, only money is relevant in political decisions. As far as freedom and democracy is concerned, if you have no money, your only freedom in a democratic country is to sit your *** there all day, and maybe, using fat fingers typing.

If you have a problem with CCP take it to TianAnMen square see what happens. Don't like Saudis? You can't come close to Saudi embassy in Washington per Michael Moore's movie scene.

A. Stupid American kids went out on streets in 1960'(1969)s.
B. Stupid Chinese kids went out on streets in 1980'(1989)s,
C. Stupid Iranian kids went out on streets in 2000'(2009)s.

2020(2029), India cares to try?

There is a reason why all countries are led by their elders. Think about it. If you are confused, I suggest consult your father first.

You find your own way.

Listen mate i have no problem with the CCP, like i have been saying in all my posts. CCP is the government of China. Nor am i spouting anti-communist messages. If china wants to be communist, that's their Internal matter.
I have no issues with the way CCP does things alright.

The only opinion i wanted to put forward is that the Chinese people have no say in any decisions that Happen in China
So you can be as pro communist as you like. But since all the power is with the CCP any way, The only source on what china will do is the CCP. Public opinion is meaningless. Including you opinions regarding what to do with India

P.S- if i May be so bold, Can I know how may years you lived in China ?, just out of curiosity.