China says to sanction Lockheed Martin over Taiwan arms sale

[FairAndUnbiased]

China has trouble regulating the RE industry in China, their efforts to curb illegal mining and export of RE has proved largely ineffective. Nonetheless, the US and Australia and US allies produces enough rare earth to supply LM, Raytheon and Honeywell. If China ever found a practical way of monitoring end use of RE that it exports then yes there are alternatives.

You must be confused. The monopoly on rare earths in China isn't a mining monopoly. It is a processing monopoly.

You know that US rare earths mine in Mountain Pass, CA? It ships the ore to China for processing into metal.

"Privately-held MP Materials, which owns the Mountain Pass mine and ships the roughly 50,000 tonnes of rare earth concentrate it extracts each year from California to China for processing, has criticized the “unilateral tariffs.””

You can have all the rare earths you want. It's just dirt without chemical processing.

 

[kankan326]

China has trouble regulating the RE industry in China, their efforts to curb illegal mining and export of RE has proved largely ineffective. Nonetheless, the US and Australia and US allies produces enough rare earth to supply LM, Raytheon and Honeywell. If China ever found a practical way of monitoring end use of RE that it exports then yes there are alternatives.

Australia has rare earth materials. It doesn't mean it has the technologies to refine them. >90% heavy rare earth materials and almost 100% refining technologies for heavy rare earth materials are in China.

Tracking most crucial several heavy rare earth materials will make the tracking work much easier.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

Australia has rare earth materials. It doesn't mean it has the technologies to refine them. >90% heavy rare earth materials and almost 100% refining technologies for heavy rare earth materials are in China.

Tracking most crucial several heavy rare earth materials will make the tracking work much easier.

You do realize they can just build the processing plant somewhere else right? Right?

 

[Nilgiri]

You do realize they can just build the processing plant somewhere else right? Right?

But what about all the processing plant IPR????? waaaaaaaah.

Totally not a pollution cost/laxity issue at all.

 

[kankan326]

You do realize they can just build the processing plant somewhere else right? Right?

I don't understand what you are talking about. It's not about plant. It's about where you can mine the materials and the refining technologies. You have no alternative for both outside China

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

But what about all the processing plant IPR????? waaaaaaaah.

Totally not a pollution cost/laxity issue at all.

LOL the Chinese here think RE processing plants are naturally occurring only inside the PRC.

 

[Nike]

But what about all the processing plant IPR????? waaaaaaaah.

Totally not a pollution cost/laxity issue at all.

It must be middle Kingdom alien level technology

 

[dbc]

Australia has rare earth materials. It doesn't mean it has the technologies to refine them. >90% heavy rare earth materials and almost 100% refining technologies for heavy rare earth materials is in China.

Tracking most crucial several type of heavy rare earth materials will make tracking work much easier.

Rare earth refining technology.. lol.The first of the three fully automated RE plants using CIX/CIC process was started in June 2020.Continuous Ion Exchange (CIX) and Continuous Ion Chromatography (CIC) technology isn’t new technology it is an adaptation of the same tech used for Uranium refining since the 60’s.

This is an important step towards USA Rare Earth’s objective to build the first rare earth and critical minerals processing facility outside China and to bring the Round Top project into full commercial production,” said Pini Althaus, CEO of USA Rare Earth. “Our Colorado pilot plant will have the ability to produce the full range of high purity, separated rare earths as well as other critical minerals such as lithium.

“I especially want to commend our team for maintaining such an aggressive development timetable, even as we all cope with the COVID pandemic,” Mr. Althaus continued.

These results provide the baseline for initiating the Pilot Plant operation at USA Rare Earth’s rare earth and critical minerals processing facility in Wheat Ridge, Colorado. The first of three Continuous Ion Exchange (CIX) Pilot Plant units was delivered in early March and is planned to be commissioned in early June as COVID-19 related travel restrictions are relaxed. The 30-column units readily enable rinsing, washing, and solution recycling in a fully automated process which greatly simplifies the optimization of the process now that the base case parameters have been established in the laboratory.

Richard Shaw, principal of Fenix NZ, stated, “The success of this first phase of work, concentrating the rare earths and obtaining a clean separation from other minerals, is an important validation of our processing, using CIX. The Ion Exchange process is widely used in other industries and has been used in China and elsewhere to achieve high purity separation of rare earths. In the coming months, we expect to achieve the goal of separated, high purity rare earth compounds and other targeted metals such as lithium as we scale up towards a commercial pilot plant.”

https://www.teletrader.com/usa-rare...t-work/news/details/52259072?ts=1594779128663

 

[Nilgiri]

LOL the Chinese here think RE processing plants are naturally occurring only inside the PRC.

Man you have some extended patience with these guys lol.

I see you all over explaining the basic ABC's...and they still dont get it....and all you get is CCP-Bot spam.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

I don't understand what you are talking about. It's not about plant. It's about where you can mine the materials and the refining technologies. You have no alternative for both outside China

The real reasons you won't find it elsewhere is that china will do it for cheap & also because of huge environmental factors because back then nobody gives a shit about dead Chinese workers.

If you start banning material people will look elsewhere or build one themselves this is like basic economic 101.

 

[dbc]

You must be confused. The monopoly on rare earths in China isn't a mining monopoly. It is a processing monopoly.

You know that US rare earths mine in Mountain Pass, CA? It ships the ore to China for processing into metal.

"Privately-held MP Materials, which owns the Mountain Pass mine and ships the roughly 50,000 tonnes of rare earth concentrate it extracts each year from California to China for processing, has criticized the “unilateral tariffs.””

You can have all the rare earths you want. It's just dirt without chemical processing.

I think you need to take off those China stronk glasses and see the real world.

 

[kankan326]

Rare earth refining technology.. lol.The first of the three fully automated RE plants using CIX/CIC process was started in June 2020.Continuous Ion Exchange (CIX) and Continuous Ion Chromatography (CIC) technology isn’t new technology it is an adaptation of the same tech used for Uranium refining since the 60’s.

This is an important step towards USA Rare Earth’s objective to build the first rare earth and critical minerals processing facility outside China and to bring the Round Top project into full commercial production,” said Pini Althaus, CEO of USA Rare Earth. “Our Colorado pilot plant will have the ability to produce the full range of high purity, separated rare earths as well as other critical minerals such as lithium.

“I especially want to commend our team for maintaining such an aggressive development timetable, even as we all cope with the COVID pandemic,” Mr. Althaus continued.

These results provide the baseline for initiating the Pilot Plant operation at USA Rare Earth’s rare earth and critical minerals processing facility in Wheat Ridge, Colorado. The first of three Continuous Ion Exchange (CIX) Pilot Plant units was delivered in early March and is planned to be commissioned in early June as COVID-19 related travel restrictions are relaxed. The 30-column units readily enable rinsing, washing, and solution recycling in a fully automated process which greatly simplifies the optimization of the process now that the base case parameters have been established in the laboratory.

Richard Shaw, principal of Fenix NZ, stated, “The success of this first phase of work, concentrating the rare earths and obtaining a clean separation from other minerals, is an important validation of our processing, using CIX. The Ion Exchange process is widely used in other industries and has been used in China and elsewhere to achieve high purity separation of rare earths. In the coming months, we expect to achieve the goal of separated, high purity rare earth compounds and other targeted metals such as lithium as we scale up towards a commercial pilot plant.”

https://www.teletrader.com/usa-rare...t-work/news/details/52259072?ts=1594779128663

The real reasons you won't find it elsewhere is that china will do it for cheap & also because of huge environmental factors because back then nobody gives a shit about dead Chinese workers.

If you start banning material people will look elsewhere or build one themselves this is like basic economic 101.

1, 99.9999%. This is the purity Chinese RE suppliers can get. If I'm right, no other suppliers can do this.
2, As I said. >90% heavy RE materials are in China. Outside China, most RE mines contain thorium. Which is mildly radioactive and extremely poisonous. The left 10% are not easy to exploit because no country wants their home soil to be poisoned. China's heavy RE mines are unique because they don't have thorium. Which makes the mining much less dangerous to environment.

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

Good sanction em ​

 

[antonius123]

The real reasons you won't find it elsewhere is that china will do it for cheap & also because of huge environmental factors because back then nobody gives a shit about dead Chinese workers.

If you start banning material people will look elsewhere or build one themselves this is like basic economic 101.

No, mainly is because of the processing technology that China is dominating now.
China has achieved domination on the technology because she has been the only country who processed REM hence doing much research in the processing technology.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

No, mainly is because of the processing technology that China is dominating now.
China has achieved domination on the technology because she has been the only country who processed REM hence doing much research in the processing technology.

Most of the technology concerning RE processing are already in the civilian domain. It's not exactly state secret. It just require the political will to do so. Now if China is that mental to ban RE exports especially to Lockmart the US government will just set up shop in Australia.

Economic 101.

 

[dbc]

1, 99.9999%. This is the purity Chinese RE suppliers can get. If I'm right, no other suppliers can do this.
2, As I said. >90% heavy RE materials are in China. Outside China, most RE mines contain thorium. Which is mildly radioactive and extremely poisonous. The left 10% are not easy to exploit because no country wants their home soil to be poisoned. China's heavy RE mines are unique because they don't have thorium. Which makes the mining much less dangerous to environment.

You are poorly informed, China is not exempt from the Thorium problem. In the US, plans for a portable LFTR liquid fluoride thorium reactor to power military bases is already commissioned- look for Project Pele. Once the concept is refined by the US military the reactor design will be commercially exploited. This should solve our thorium problem. We may even import your thorium in the future.

The disposal of tailings also contributes to the problem. Tailings are the ground up materials left behind once the rare earth has been extracted. Often, these tailings contain thorium, which is radioactive. Generally, tailings are placed into a large land impoundment and stored. In the U.S. strict controls are put into place and permits are required to store tailings. According to Wang Caifeng, China’s Deputy Director-General of the Materials Department of the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology, producing one ton of rare earth elements creates 2,000 tons of mine tailings.

https://thoriumenergyalliance.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/rareearth0310hurst.pdf