Japanese media: China to buy S400 to deter Taiwan and Japan and India

[he-man]

There is no point in inventing wheel again and again... Just copy and make in your county... Every country copy from every one.

There is a point man.

 

[Fahad Khan 2]

But when a time rises this will backfire no doubt.We know that ,otherwise we dont take 25 years and thousands of sorties for giving IOC to LCA .At last we got our own design which no other country cant claim about it .
PRC also know that is why they spend billions of dollars for J-10 and other aircrafts.

If that is case both US and Russia still follow same design .But both have different design and anyone can identify US aircrafts and Russia aircrafts differently.

But still USA make it first and the world follows.... LCA had 60℅ foreign parts....

There is a point man.

So Indians should start inventing every thing let's start from bulb... But soory you need Thomas Edison for that....

 

[Akasa]

Still SU-30MKK and its chinese version are the backbone of PLAAF.I agree China made good advancement in indigenous technology.But it start from the copying of advanced Russian system.S-400 will be a game changer for China.
When it comes to SAM systems Russia is the kingmaker,even US cant challenge that,that is why they develop F-22 and B-1,but it is not proven whether they can counter S-300 let alone S-400.All of your version ,may better than original S-300, is still apply the same base tech of S -300 systems.

Backbone is already too strong of a term. The Su-30MKK/MK2 that were purchased were never delegated to carry out intensive missions, as their weapons loadouts are incompatible with Chinese weapons and their datalinks are not completely updated. There's a reason why the PLAAF is actively procuring JH-7A, JH-7B, J-16, J-15, in lieu of the Su-30MKK that sooner or later will be replaced.

There is no Chinese version of the Su-30MKK; the J-16 and J-15 all use a completely different set of subsystems and weapons that endow it with a completely different set of parameters and compatibility. The J-15s and J-16s are equipped with top of the line systems like AESA radars and LCD cockpit displays unlike that of the MKKs. They are not compatible with Russian systems and therefore should not be linked with an Russian aircraft.

It would be illogical for the PLA to adopt the S-400 considering that they will soon receive the HQ-8, HQ-19, HQ-26, and HQ-29.

We dont know about your J-10. Shenyang J-11 is the clear cut copy of Sukhoi-27SK.Do you want proof ?then check Wikipedia.

As if Wiki is the go-to authoritative source of information.

The J-11B, which is the only variant in major service, uses wholly Chinese developed subsystems and technologies. That gives it a significantly enhanced performance. Since it also does not support Russian weaponry, it would be quite unwise to lump it with Russian aircraft.

 

[xunzi]

An Indian taking an article from a Japanese quoting a Russian "commercial news" source. LOL!

If you want to know if the rumor has an inches of legitimacy, looks at least for Western sources, particularly US's major military outlets, because they have a very strong media force spying on our country military modernization program. This will not escape their eyes.

 

[Akasa]

why China still have to buy S400, while they have S300 and could copy to HQ-9, even export their own system ?
I thought, if that's true, means China could copy only, cannot make it better

India transports troops into the common border mainly by air while China use railway ...
So S400 and copies could restrict fast India deployment to the conflict area ... by air.

China would adapt S400 system to their surface ships too as they did to S300

S-300 is not the basis of the HQ-9.

 

[OrionHunter]

Indians quoting
Indian 3rd rate defense mag quoting
Japanese gossip paper quoting
nameless Russian media "report"

Nothing to see here. Just the usual daily masturbation to fake news.

The Russian military are worried that China would buy one of the few S-400 system, and then steal their technology through reverse engineering into the domestic version. In the past, Russia to sell weapons systems to China has been facing this problem.

Nuff said!

 

[SrNair]

But still USA make it first and the world follows.... LCA had 60℅ foreign parts....



So Indians should start inventing every thing let's start from bulb... But soory you need Thomas Edison for that....

Wrong .Better get your mind right my friend and read carefully.LCA has 60% indigenous part not foreign parts .

No just check the aircrafts of US and Russia.Or just check and compare Su-30 and F-15 . you can understand.
Both are entirely two different designs .Only two main design currently in this world AND other countries simply copy both.J-11 is a best example .LCA is not in that category .But LCA is not even a match for both Su-30 or F-15

 

[Fahad Khan 2]

Wrong .Better get your mind right my friend and read carefully.LCA has 60% indigenous part not foreign parts .

No just check the aircrafts of US and Russia.Or just check and compare Su-30 and F-15 . you can understand.
Both are entirely two different designs .Only two main design currently in this world AND other countries simply copy both.J-11 is a best example .LCA is not in that category .But LCA is not even a match for both Su-30 or F-15

Still 40% is big

 

[SrNair]

Backbone is already too strong of a term. The Su-30MKK/MK2 that were purchased were never delegated to carry out intensive missions, as their weapons loadouts are incompatible with Chinese weapons and their datalinks are not completely updated. There's a reason why the PLAAF is actively procuring JH-7A, JH-7B, J-16, J-15, in lieu of the Su-30MKK that sooner or later will be replaced.

There is no Chinese version of the Su-30MKK; the J-16 and J-15 all use a completely different set of subsystems and weapons that endow it with a completely different set of parameters and compatibility. The J-15s and J-16s are equipped with top of the line systems like AESA radars and LCD cockpit displays unlike that of the MKKs. They are not compatible with Russian systems and therefore should not be linked with an Russian aircraft.

It would be illogical for the PLA to adopt the S-400 considering that they will soon receive the HQ-8, HQ-19, HQ-26, and HQ-29.



As if Wiki is the go-to authoritative source of information.

The J-11B, which is the only variant in major service, uses wholly Chinese developed subsystems and technologies. That gives it a significantly enhanced performance. Since it also does not support Russian weaponry, it would be quite unwise to lump it with Russian aircraft.

I agree .Chinese J-16,J-15 and J-11 is to advanced than original Russian version.But it is not a basic design that is developed from scratch .Like Russians or Americans do. PRC simply updating all the subsystems in that aircraft and all updated systems are chinese.thats all
Our Su-30MKI is also like that.Even it is a licensed production ,currently HAL develop Su-30Mki from scratch with our own raw materials.

 

[he-man]

Still 40% is big

Its a start.

 

[SrNair]

Still 40% is big

But 60% in IOC ,it is indeed appreciable .A right direction and right way.Need further enhancement ,including indigenous engine.

 

[Akasa]

I agree .Chinese J-16,J-15 and J-11 is to advanced than original Russian version.But it is not a basic design that is developed from scratch .Like Russians or Americans do. PRC simply updating all the subsystems in that aircraft and all updated systems are chinese.thats all
Our Su-30MKI is also like that.Even it is a licensed production ,currently HAL develop Su-30Mki from scratch with our own raw materials.

Airframes of the planes may be the same, true, but they are ultimately different; the PLAAF ones use wholly new systems, and therefore it is due to these attributes that the PLAAF ones are classified independent of the Russian line.

The PLAAF jets are unrelated to the SU-30MKK in a technological sense.

 

[SrNair]

Airframes of the planes may be the same, true, but they are ultimately different; the PLAAF ones use wholly new systems, and therefore it is due to these attributes that the PLAAF ones are classified independent of the Russian line.

The PLAAF jets are unrelated to the SU-30MKK in a technological sense.

Same things also happens in India .Su-30Mki is now quite our own.But in a reputable way with good cooperation from Russia.
I consider J-10 as the first indigenous aircraft of PRC.Because it is quite Chinese design.

 

[BoQ77]

Same things also happens in India .Su-30Mki is now quite our own.But in a reputable way with good cooperation from Russia.
I consider J-10 as the first indigenous aircraft of PRC.Because it is quite Chinese design.

Let make something new ... All Chinese aircrafts derived Russian design ...
from Mig17, Mig21, ... IL76, Su ... S300, S75, BM12, ...

 

[shuttler]

Silly article
If we need S400 they are bought for the americans
the other parties in ascending order of weakness are japan, taiwan, india - absolutely no need for this expenditure