China says 2 pilots died in aircraft carrier tests

[cirr]

New WS-10 powered J-15S:

 

[Beast]

What incident? J-15 related incident? You mean China should make up an incident just to please you lot?

You insist on believing in one foreigner’s interpretation rather than 1.3 billion Chinese‘s understanding of the original text。

It is ok, you are free to choose what you WANT to believe.

They are so jealous of China success that they will just pick up any unverified misfortune report just to please themselves.

 

[shiv]

chinese are such a pathetic bunch. These guys are celebrating WS10 engines in a thread for condolence.. grow up ffs !

 

[明天会更好]

呵呵...

 

[Beast]

chinese are such a pathetic bunch. These guys are celebrating WS10 engines in a thread for condolence.. grow up ffs !

Indian are a batch of pathetic loser who will jump at any ill informed or mis interpret news of China to ease their ego due to forever losing out to Chinese

 

[明天会更好]

you never know, you laugh at us, we are quietly doing what!

chinese are such a pathetic bunch. These guys are celebrating WS10 engines in a thread for condolence.. grow up ffs !

 

[shiv]

Indian are a batch of pathetic loser who will jump at any ill informed or mis interpret news of China to ease their ego due to forever losing out to Chinese

2 pilots died because they were not competent enough to land on the carrier.. why are u guys trying to hide the shame and boasting about a failure engine ?

if ws10 is that much successful why is it not used in J17 ?

 

[Luca1]

2 pilots died because they were not competent enough to land on the carrier.. why are u guys trying to hide the shame and boasting about a failure engine ?

if ws10 is that much successful why is it not used in J17 ?

There were no news about "2 pilots died because they were not competent enough to land on the carrier". We don't know what happened. But based on the Xinhua article, there was no crash landing on the carrier that killed any pilot. But merely two pilots had lost their life during the development of the carrier plane. The loss could have happened many years ago and just got reported now.

 

[shiv]

There were no news about "2 pilots died because they were not competent enough to land on the carrier". We don't know what happened. But based on the Xinhua article, there was no crash landing on the carrier that killed any pilot. But merely two pilots had lost their life during the development of the carrier plane. The loss could have happened many years ago and just got reported now.

Fair enough .. All i am saying is maybe those pilots died during landing ( might be ) So lets not disrespect them with celebration of something else in same thread !

 

[aliaselin]

2 pilots died because they were not competent enough to land on the carrier.. why are u guys trying to hide the shame and boasting about a failure engine ?

if ws10 is that much successful why is it not used in J17 ?

What is J17?You need not talk so much to show you are idiot

There were no news about "2 pilots died because they were not competent enough to land on the carrier". We don't know what happened. But based on the Xinhua article, there was no crash landing on the carrier that killed any pilot. But merely two pilots had lost their life during the development of the carrier plane. The loss could have happened many years ago and just got reported now.

The Xinghua news of English vesion is wrongly translated. This has been clarified by many people here

 

[CNwansui]

Now it has been confirmed it's a false news by official media

 

[cirr]

There were no news about "2 pilots died because they were not competent enough to land on the carrier". We don't know what happened. But based on the Xinhua article, there was no crash landing on the carrier that killed any pilot. But merely two pilots had lost their life during the development of the carrier plane. The loss could have happened many years ago and just got reported now.

The original Xinhua report didn't even mention that the two killed were pilots，let alone pilots of carrier plane。

For all we can possibly gather from the text，the two killed could have been mechanic workers、cleaners etc and they could have died of a road accident。（No cause of death was mentioned）

The People's Daily article dated 09.09.2014 made it very clear that NO pilots were killed while trialing the J-15s。

 

[saiyan0321]

If its not false news then Rest In Peace soldiers. Truly its a loss when you lose good soldiers but their determination to be in the armed force and fight for their country against forces of extreme power should be commended.

 

[Ulysses]

no need for China to continue this whole "we are superpower look at our Carrier BS"
Just relax in your god forsaken Foggy cities and let us control the seas....... it's not like we will "attack" you

 

[qwerrty]

No, Chinese test pilots have not been lost during carrier development.
Wednesday, September 10, 2014


Recently there have been news reports that PLANAF lost two test pilots during J-15 carrier testing and qualififcation. (here, and here)
http://china-defense.blogspot.com/2014/09/no-chinese-test-pilots-have-not-been.html
These reports are clearly wrong and based on a poor translation of a unit citation published for the China Flight Test Establishment (CFTE) flight test squadron at Xian: original Chinese news.
http://china-defense.blogspot.com/2014/09/no-chinese-test-pilots-have-not-been.html
Below is the full text of the unit citation.
中央军委主席习近平签署命令 给1个单位、1名个人授予荣誉称号-新华网
命令指出，长期以来，该大队坚持以发展民族航空事业和建设强大空中力量为使命，教育引导试飞员把个人理想融入强军实践，官兵始终保持了旺盛斗志；积极探索 理论、参与设计、试验飞行，圆满完成各项试验试飞任务，填补我国航空领域13项空白；自觉抵制诱惑、坦然面对生死，多次挑战装备和生理极限，有2名同志献 出生命。特别是为圆满完成歼－15飞机在辽宁舰上成功实施阻拦着舰和滑跃起飞任务做出重大贡献。
A better translation of the citation text shows the loss of life is one item in a list of meritorious actions, two test pilots died in the history of that "Hero" flight test squadron, not associated with J-15 testing:
This citation notes that for a long time, the unit contributed to the development of national aviation and the construction of a powerful air force, officers and soldiers have always maintained a strong fighting spirit; actively exploring the theory involved in the design, test flight, successful completion of test flight missions, filling gaps in the aviation sector; consciously resisting the temptations, calmly facing the danger of death, and challenges of equipment and physiological limits, where two comrades lost their lives. Of note is the successful completion of the J-15 aircraft implementing landing and take off from the Liaoning ship, making a significant contribution to the task.
Specifically, achievements of that particular squadron cited includes testing the J-15, and also notes two test pilots have been killed in past from that squadron.
http://china-defense.blogspot.com/2014/09/no-chinese-test-pilots-have-not-been.html
Additionally Global Times specifically denies that the deaths resulted from J-15 testing.
军方否认2名殉职飞行员系在航母测试中牺牲_国内新闻_环球网
http://china-defense.blogspot.com/2014/09/no-chinese-test-pilots-have-not-been.html

多位军方知情人士告诉记者，获得荣誉称号的这个试飞大队有飞行员参加了航母舰载机试飞，但牺牲的两人是在以往的试飞中殉职，在舰载机试飞中没有人牺牲

Military sources told reporters, the cited unit had pilots who participated in carrier aircraft flight, but their death was from previous flight tests, no one died during carrier-based aircraft testing.
We already know when two pilots from the CFTC were killed:
http://china-defense.blogspot.com/2014/09/no-chinese-test-pilots-have-not-been.html
-1994 while testing a JH-7 prototype: 飞天战豹—歼轰-7歼击轰炸机诞生与成长 图 邪恶的幽灵－飞越时空的Ｂ５２战略轰炸机 图 --- ido.3mt.com.cn
http://china-defense.blogspot.com/2014/09/no-chinese-test-pilots-have-not-been.html
-2011 flying a JH-7 at the China International General Aviation Convention (CIGAC): Fighter jet crashes in China air show - CNN.com​