China renames a river because it sounds Arabic

[haidian]

Opposing Communism is a respectable and legitimate belief. Will you try to control his way of thinking for him?

No, why should I care, it's him trying to control my thinking through his belief, I don't care what other's believe, if they can love or hate someone or some ideology, they should also allow others to love or hate theirs.

Changing beiping to Beijing is different changing somethings name just because it sound Arabic. it shows Chinese are not ready to except any other culture custom. more importantly Chinese are anti Muslim/Islam .

If you believe changing a name meaning we hate something or love something, be our guest, nothing we can help you.

Humble yourself. You are not unique in all of history. You are merely men, who want to better their country.

I never said we are special, but every country is unique in their own way, we Chinese respect different countries practicing what they think is right for them within their borders. that's the basic and ultimate respect.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Chinese population are no more isolated than your population, we are open minded, liberal and don't blindly follow anything, that's not the case in religious countries.

CCP is open-minded and pragmatic, Xi Jinping is a great leader for China akin to Mao.

Chinese people still need some more time to become open-minded and educated about the world around them.

Start with learning about your allies and friends, then learn to appreciate their various histories.

You are surrounded by Muslim nations whom you have excellent ties with. Three regions of your nation have large Muslim populations.

Being ignorant about Islam and Muslims is simply unacceptable in this day and age.

Clash of civilizations is realty, but if you will not bother us we will not bother you.

The Islamic world and China have no animosity with each other, and we never have.

Right now the main concern is this ‘War on Terror,’ which is actually a ‘War on Islamic countries’ perpetuated by Western countries in the name of causing war, disunity, and civil strife in our societies.

It is a war on Islamic civilization, which has been weakened by 150-200 year illegal occupation and imposed dictator puppets.

China is not our concern. We don’t have any animosity towards you, so please cut the propaganda.

 

[B.K.N]

You are surrounded by Muslim nations w

Muslim countries are thousands of miles away from the populated areas of China
Closest muslim country to China is Bangladesh

 

[haidian]

CCP is open-minded and pragmatic, Xi Jinping is a great leader for China akin to Mao.

Chinese people still need some more time to become open-minded and educated about the world around them.

Start with learning about your allies and friends, then learn to appreciate their various histories.

You are surrounded by Muslim nations whom you have excellent ties with. Three regions of your nation have large Muslim populations.

Being ignorant about Islam and Muslims is simply unacceptable in this day and age.

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China is not a closed society like your country, over 160 million Chinese people travel around the world each year and at least half a million foreign expats live in China, you should get off your high horse and stop dictating us what we should do and what we should not, we never did it to your country and govenment, we are doing fine, and we believe we are on the right path. don't try to scare us, China is not surrounded by anyone, China is trying to surround the world to some extent if one has to say surrounding.

Muslim countries are thousands of miles away from the populated areas of China
Closest muslim country to China is Bangladesh

the countries with longest shared borders with China are Russia, India and Mongolia.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

China is not a closed society like your country, over 160 million Chinese people travel around the world each year and at least half a million foreign expats live in China, you should get off your high horse and stop dictating us what we should do and what we should not, we never did it to your country and govenment, we are doing fine, and we believe we are on the right path. don't try to scare us, China is not surrounded by anyone, China is trying to surround the world to some extent if one has to say surrounding.


the countries with longest shared borders with China are Russia, India and Mongolia.

Pakistan is a pretty international society, you will find our people all over the world. Anyways getting back on point.

China should be worried about the US and its allies, because their wish is to destroy China’s back forever. This explains the recent events in Hong Kong. It won’t end there.

Be realistic, understand the threats you face. Be humble, and do not ascribe any special nature to yourself which you do not deserve.

Arrogance and desire to control everyone was the fall of the US. Don’t be like that.

the countries with longest shared borders with China are Russia, India and Mongolia.

And how are your relations (historic and present) with those countries?

 

[haidian]

Arrogance and desire to control everyone was the fall of the US. Don’t be like that.

And how are your relations (historic and present) with those countries?

China never wants to be arrogant, we don't even want to have a fight with the west, but they bring the fight to us, China has good relations with most countries in the world you may claim that is because they want Chinese money, but still it's a fact that China now has more friends in the world than she ever had before, China was once very isolated by the international community and we know what it feels like being isolated, but now no one can isolate China, not even US and the whole west.

China doesn't interfere with other countries internal affairs and only wants others reciprocate, if you call this "arrogance‘， that's some "arrogance" we and our ancestors have been fighting for over a century and we won't give it up.

 

[313ghazi]

Who cares? It's a river in China - they can call it what they want. Don't we change the names of places and buildings? I know a place in AJK near us which changed it's name from Akalgarh to Islamgarh. Lyallpur is Faisalabad, Lahore Stadium is Gaddafi Stadium, how many places in Pakistan have the Bhutto's besmerched with their family name?

 

[haidian]

And how are your relations (historic and present) with those countries?

Russia and Mongolia enjoy a very good relationship with China, hand in glove, India and China have land dispute but by and large the border between us are quite and peaceful. How about you with your neighors? say, the border between Pakistan with India, Afghanistan and Iran?

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Russia and Mongolia enjoy a very good relationship with China, hand in glove, India and China have land dispute but by and large the border between us are quite and peaceful. How about you with your neighors? say, the border between Pakistan with India, Afghanistan and Iran?

I see your mindset, and it amuses me.

You conveniently ignore that most of China’s neighbors are US puppets. Russia is no friend of China, and you know that, although currently you are on the same page concerning the US. Mongolia is a Russian puppet.

Your comment about India makes me laugh, they view you as their most difficult existential threat and are open enemies to you.

Feel free to create a thread about Pakistan’s foreign relations. I won’t go off topic now.

China has no choice but to establish deep ties with Muslim countries. CPEC is do or die.

West has the noose around China’s neck and now the focus is all on China.

In this scenario, don’t burn yourself in your Islam hatred.

 

[mike2000 is back]

History always produces radicals at some points, but Mao was dead for half a century already, traditional culture now is booming in China, our culture helps us develop the nation.

You mean Mao was a radical?

 

[haidian]

You conveniently ignore that most of China’s neighbors are US puppets. Russia is no friend of China, and you know that, although currently you are on the same page concerning the US. Mongolia is a Russian puppet.
West has the noose around China’s neck and now the focus is all on China.

Japan and Korea may be US Puppets, I agree, they both enjoy very healthy relations with China, Korea hates Japan very much and there's no alliance between them, north Korea can keep them both busy.
If the west really has a noose around China's neck , the same noose is also around their neck, that's why US is so eager to make a deal with China annd its western allies didn't join them. you wolf crying story won't have any listeners in China, we are fully aware what we are facing and what are not

In this scenario, don’t burn yourself in your Islam hatred.

What I said made you believe I hate Islam?

You mean Mao was a radical?

Let's be real, he was a radical.

 

[mike2000 is back]

Calling Chinese culture less people revealed you are either brainwashed or hateful person. China wouldn't have been what it is today without her well preserved culture and traditional value system.

Mao was critical to dregs of Chinese tradition, and his cultural revolution in essence is to emancipate the mind and to break down superstition, which sets China apart from the rest of developing countries.

To be honest, even some die hard Mao fans still admit that he indeed destroyed most of China's traditional culture, since according to him; his stated goal was to preserve Chinese communism by purging remnants of 'capitalist' and traditional elements from Chinese society, and to re-impose Mao Zedong Thought. To be fair to Mao though, I don't think he was so much against Chinese traditional culture, it was more of a way for him to eliminate his rivals within the CCP and government institutions reason he insisted that 'revisionists' be removed through violent class struggle , where he encouraged Chinese youths to rise up and take matters in their own hands to purge all traitors in the party and government who didn't adhere to Mao's thought of the little red book. An example of that is your current president Xi Jinping whose father was purged and Xi himself was sent to the countryside to work in labour camps . So Mao's policy was a disaster for China economically, politically and more importantly culturally. Since the country lost lots of its old traditional remnants which were destroyed in large numbers all over the country. I think this shows again that it's never good for one person to hold too much power for too long, else it leads to power abuse.

 

[haidian]

To be honest, even some die hard Mao fans still admit that he indeed destroyed most of China's traditional culture, since according t him, his stated goal was to preserve Chinese communism by purging remnants of 'capitalist and traditional elements from Chinese society, and to re-impose Mao Zedong Thought. To be fair to Mao though, I don't think he was so much against Chinese traditional culture, it was more of a way for him to eliminate his rivals within the CCP and government institutions reason he insisted that 'revisionists' be removed through violent class struggle , where he encouraged Chinese youths to rise up and take matters in their own hands to purge all traitors in the party and government who didn't adhere to Mao's thought of the little red book. An example of that is your current president Xi Jinping whose father was purged and Xi himself was sent to the countryside to work in labour camps . So Mao's policy was a disaster for China economically, politically and more importantly culturally. Since the country lost lots of its old traditional remnants which were destroyed in large numbers all over the country.

China experience dozens of radical cultural reforms during thousands of years long history, comparing to those changes, Mao's cultural revolution was like nothing. but he did prepare the cultural ground for China's future modernization and economic development, he deserved to be regarded as one of the greatest leaders in the Chinese hisotry, what foreigners think of him doesn't really matter, he was down in the history of China.

 

[mike2000 is back]

China experience dozens of radical cultural reforms during thousands of years long history, comparing to those changes, Mao's cultural revolution was like nothing. but he did prepare the cultural ground for China's future modernization and economic development, he deserved to be regarded as one of the greatest leaders in the Chinese hisotry, what foreigners think of him doesn't really matter, he was down in the history of China.

Obviously, a leader can't be all bad(except he's a complete moron) and no good. There are always good deeds a leader can achieve and also bad ones. That doesn't means we can't point out the bad deeds of a leader just because he might have done other good things.
So at the end of the day, it depends on how we look at things overall, and it also depends on each individual, some will think it was overall bad, some will think good. So depends on each individual and the way we look at things.

 

[Numerous]

1. I'm sorry, what?
It is YOU who made that assumption, because what he pointed at was the warlord/feudal/padri culture that has dominated the middle eastern mindset since a long time, and it felled many empires, might I add, Islamic.
The division is from within, not from outside.

2. Is this you what you've come to parroting after coming across many anti-china articles and news from the west and its allies?
DO NOT deny this, because if it wasn't for them to set up the basis for the "EVIL CHINA" persona, you wouldn't believe all this anti-muslim thing in China.

Culture in China is huge, but of course, you can not know that from the position of your home in a country far-away from the land you so readily accuse of... anything that the west says. (Irrespective of country/religion).

The food culture in China has never changed a bit.
The philosophical culture in China hasn't changed.
The education culture hasn't changed.
The architectural culture hasn't changed.

Infact, past empires that laid her hands on China ended up being absorbed by its mighty culture.
Not only that, the chinese cultural influence spans across whole of East Asia.

Not only that, you accuse them of "wearing" different clothes than what you "perceive" to form a culture in China.
This is the age of information.
Many mindsets will get influenced by differing cultures now more than ever.
Even during the age of colonialism, China was gaining influence, albeit to a limited scale and never succeeding on a greater one.

Japan is different, Malaysia is different, Vietnam is different, Burma is different.
Do you really want them to be waging wars amongst themselves and going at each others throat because that was part of their culture at some point?

So, Where do you get this "muh evil communist" mindset from?
Why is it limited to China, but not to the greater asian territories?

What do you know?

Oh! I know, try having a meet-up in your company wearing only a dhoti and nothing else.
Cultural power!

Na I'm not making assumptions. I've dealt with him on previous threads before. He regularly does this. Do you wonder why the moderators removed his post? Ask him if he's a muslim and ask him his view on "7th century arabs", he'll tell you himself.

If you think this is some weird western conspiracy brainwashing then I really don't want to spare any time making you think otherwise. Think what you want.