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China plans 1000-km tunnel to take Brahmaputra water to Xinjiang: Report | world-news

I don't remember that film well, but I can imagine the scale from your description and from this link ( if it is what you are talking about ) :

http://diehard.wikia.com/wiki/New_York_City_Water_Tunnel_No._3

The libyan project used 4-diameter tunnel :

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And the below vid is from a 2011 sabotage to one such pipe during the war. Look at the water pressure and the amount :

www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIGZyaCJPuc

The Chinese project is ambitious but is it practical??

Yep, that is the scale I was thinking about.

China has huge water problems. They'll do whatever the deem they have to do to solve it. To get it done quickly they will probably use dozens of boring machines staggered along the length of the route.
 
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few nuclear bombs on new dehli is the cost of breaking Indus water treaty.
Never knew this clause existed in the treaty :D

Btw who will decide what constitute breaking an International Treaty. I guess it is ICJ. First go and obey and try KbY as per ICJ ruling. Then talk about treaties.
 
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China plans 1000-km tunnel to take Brahmaputra water to Xinjiang: Report | world-news


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A man rowing a boat on a swollen Brahmaputra in Assam. The river, which originates in Tibet, is called Yarlung Tsangpo River in China.(AP File Photo)


Top scientists backed by the ruling Communist Party of China are working on a plan to drain the Yarlung Tsangpo (Brahmaputra) river near the Indian border and divert the water through a 1,000-km tunnel, the world’s longest, to arid Xinjiang.

The Tsangpo flows into India through Arunachal Pradesh as the Siang before becoming the Brahmaputra in Assam – the source of life and livelihood for millions in the country’s northeast.

The tunnel project, submitted to the government in March, is in the blueprint stage but could trigger a serious water crisis in India’s northeast if implemented as the Tsangpo is an upper riparian river.

Chinese engineers are “testing techniques” that could be used to build the 1,000-km tunnel to carry water from Tibet to the Taklimakan Desert in Xinjiang, Hong Kong-based South China Morning Post reported, citing experts involved in the project.

Even by China’s standards, the project is massive. The country’s longest tunnel is the 85-km Dahuofang water project in Liaoning province, while the world’s longest tunnel is the 137-km water supply pipe beneath New York.

The recommendation from the scientists is simple – drain the Tsangpo in Tibet Autonomous Region and tunnel it to Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region, which lies in the rain-shadow area of the Tibet plateau. The proposed tunnel will drop from the world’s highest plateau, its multiple sections connected by waterfalls.

Wang Menshu, China’s top tunneling expert, suggested the government “drain the Yarlung Tsangpo River at Sangri county in southern Tibet, near the disputed border with India”, the report said.

Another leading scientist, Wang Wei, who helped draft the tunnel proposal, told the newspaper more than 100 scientists had formed teams for the nationwide research effort.

The scientists are aware India and Bangladesh would protest against the project but are ready to implement it anyway.

“Wang said the project would also prompt protests from India and Bangladesh, which lay downstream. But compared to other proposals, which would require the construction of massive dams on the river, the underground tunnels would leave Tibet’s natural landscape largely unscathed,” the report said.

“It won’t leave a mark on the surface for other countries or environmental activists to point their fingers at,” Wang said.

India will certainly be worried.

Between the Indus, which originates in the west of the Tibet plateau, and the Tsangpo-Siang in the east, there are six major rivers flowing from Tibet to India.

These rivers are crucial for India’s agricultural and industrial needs. As of 2016, China had plans to build 32 dams on the rivers and tributaries, raising concerns among people in lower riparian states.

Zhang Chuanqing, a researcher at the Institute of Rock and Soil Mechanics in the Chinese Academy of Sciences in Wuhan, Hubei province, is confident the tunnel project will take off despite the enormous costs, engineering challenges, environmental impact and protests by neighbours.

No study on the environmental impact has been carried out so far.

But experts are confident and said with the availability of technology in the years to come and potential benefits, the project will be difficult to resist.

“With new water from Tibet, Xinjiang would boom like California,” Zhang said.

He added China was “now taking a quiet, step-by-step approach to bring it to life”.

A “rehearsal” for the 1000-km tunnel has begun with the building of a tunnel that will be more than 600 km long in Yunnan province in southwestern China. Work on this tunnel started in August and it will comprise more than 60 sections, each wide enough to accommodate two high-speed trains.

The tunnel in Yunnan will pass through mountains several thousand metres above sea level in an area plagued by unstable geological conditions.

“Researchers said building the Yunnan tunnel would be a ‘rehearsal’ of the new technology, engineering methods and equipment needed for the Tibet-Xinjiang tunnel…,” the report said.

The Yunnan project also gives an idea of the enormous costs involved. It will take eight years to build at an estimated cost of 78 billion yuan ($11.7 billion).

“It will carry more than three billion tonnes of water each year from northwestern Yunnan to the province’s dry centre and directly benefit more than 11 million people,” according to the provincial government.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/world...iang-report/story-QBmxl7rMgmd8UW6pKV7VSL.html

Taste your own medicine, That is what India practically doing with Pakistan in Afghanistan and India.
 
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Taste your own medicine, That is what India practically doing with Pakistan in Afghanistan and India.
India building water tunnels ?

Are you confusing Dams with Tunnels ( to divert water) ?
 
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What is the difference when objectives are same?. Don't try to divert things
India has not yet started diverting any water from officially alloted Pakistan's share under the Indus treaty.

I guess India will divert water in case of a war with Pakistan. ( Irrespective of who initiate the war )
 
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Certainly ventilation will be an issue after it is done for air circulation but I would assume they will also dig some vertical vents.

First of all, I assume its really 100km not 1000 as it's stated in OP.
Second, clearly you have no idea, what you is 100km tunnel.
Some vertical vents!? Have you ever seen one in any tunnel?
If some how ventilation issue is resolved in 100km tunnel by some magical engineering, evacuation would be impossible!
There would be requirement of hospitals and restaurants, what's your Indian engineering solution to that?
 
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Indians should not bark without any evidence!If China has a plan like this ,your barking is useless!
 
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First of all, I assume its really 100km not 1000 as it's stated in OP.
Second, clearly you have no idea, what you is 100km tunnel.
Some vertical vents!? Have you ever seen one in any tunnel?
If some how ventilation issue is resolved in 100km tunnel by some magical engineering, evacuation would be impossible!
There would be requirement of hospitals and restaurants, what's your Indian engineering solution to that?

Lol! Well sure the workers need to get out but remember this is a water tunnel not a train tunnel. I'm sure Chinese workers will be happy to have a job. If they have to go down some mineshaft type elevator to get to the worksite they probably won't be complaining. As I said they'll probably use multiple machines each digging 30km or so. The English Channel tunnels (3!) are 50kms and there was no easy way to escape from that without drowning. It only took a few years for the machines to dig it. They are pretty automated now.

Inside the aqueduct tunnel with a vertical shaft

We'll see what the final length is but if they need water somewhere I'm sure they will do what it takes.



what's your Indian engineering solution to that?

Lol! Wrong continent.
I don't think Indians have the tech themselves to pull this off. They certainly can hire the machines.
The US has a 100Km one I'm sure the Chinese are smart enough to do 1000km. All it takes is time and money.
 
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India has not yet started diverting any water from officially alloted Pakistan's share under the Indus treaty.

I guess India will divert water in case of a war with Pakistan. ( Irrespective of who initiate the war )
So do China, so why worry?
 
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So do China, so why worry?
A reasonable argument,well said. But whenever it concerns China, Indians are hypocritical.

One will understand how hypocritical they are through history of Tawang,Where 6th Dalai Lama was born.
In 1706 6th Dalai Lama was considered incompetent, removed from his position and sent to Beijing under the order of Kangxi emperor(an obvious evidence that Tibet under China's administration), He disappeared(probably died) in Qinghai.
British India took Tawang around 1940, at advantage of end of Qing dynasty(1644-1912) and falling apart of China.

Still a lot Indians take Tawang for granted While think "Occupation of Tibet by China“ illegal.
 
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Never knew this clause existed in the treaty :D

Btw who will decide what constitute breaking an International Treaty. I guess it is ICJ. First go and obey and try KbY as per ICJ ruling. Then talk about treaties.
world bank is the guarantor of IWT.
it is combination of 192 countries.
 
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