China openly admits to forced "re-education" of Uyghur women

[FairAndUnbiased]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1347247602094534658

Interesting phrasing though. If you think this is okay, imagine if India started to "promote Muslim women's right" using these tactics in Kashmir or even the undisputed areas like UP/Kerala.

India can do whatever it wants. But be ready for the blowback. China is.

 

[Place Of Space]

The OP wins. Everyone else loses.

Exactly, flys like to play on the bad egg. The West and India paint Xinjiang Muslim area a bad egg, they can't bear a tranquil Xinjiang, so they can play on muslim topics. Breaking China and Islam countries relationship satisfy America and Euro powers interests, breaking China and Pakistan relationship satisfy Indian interests. Actually I had get used to their tactics, we need to think about alternative strategy if the West and India succeed in breaking China and Islam relationship.

 

[AgnosticIndian]

Then next question. Who is the anti-national ? Is it the micro-finance company and the mahajan who force the farmer to commit suicide ? Is it the hospital which allowed the actor Ashiesh Roy to die of kidney ailment because he couldn't pay the treatment fees they demanded ? Is it the coaching center in Kota and the college which force students to commit suicide ? Is it the Maneka Gandhi adoring woman in my neighborhood who used to daily prepare special rice for the stray dogs and deliver it to them on her scooter while millions of humans in the country go hungry ? Is it Mukesh Ambani who built an obscene 27-storey for a family of four while millions are homeless or live in slums ? Is it Yogi Adityanath and Sadhvi Pragya who quote fondly from the Manusmriti and want to make it the Constitution ? Is it the Tablighi Jamaatis in IBM-India who instead of agitating for an employee union for the benefit of all employees instead agitate selfishly for prayer place and time within the office ? Is it some self-styled moral police who prevent inter-faith marriages from happening ? Is it the film maker Ashoke Pandit who makes films against the Naxalites without thinking of the unjust feudalism in Naxalbari which led to the Naxal uprising ? Is it various aalims and babas who spread superstition and child sacrifice in the society in 2021 instead of the country having a settlement on Mars given its big industrial base and supposedly talented engineers ? Is it the "defense" minister who has made the Indian military to become the second-largest importer of armaments in the world while millions of civilians lead a miserable life because of lack of money ? Is it some idiot at the top who spends resources on needless purchases and projects while millions of citizens lack money and so lead a miserable life ? is it the maintainers of the entire political, social and economic system of India which allows these wrong things ? So who is the anti-national ?



There is nothing Islamic about the veil / niqab / burqa. It is a pre-Islamic artifact. Actually a Jewish tradition. An Egyptian woman parliamentarian and academic, Amna Nosseir, has researched on this and has called for a ban on the burqa :




It is to be observed that modern Muslim progressive leaders like Nasser, Gaddafi, Saddam and the Assads disallowed their female family members from wearing the burqa and their countries during their leadership generally discouraged the burqa. It is also to be observed that it was Western-supported Muslim leaders who encouraged burqa. Example, in Afghanistan in the 80s the socialist government enabled women at least in the cities to go without the burqa but the Western governments birthed the Al Qaeda and later the Taliban who brought the burqa back.

Watch this vid about Nasser recalling his meeting with the chief of the Muslim Brotherhood who wanted Nasser to impose the burqa on Egyptian women. Note the reaction of the audience.

This article describes the West-boot-licking anti-women attitude of the Muslim Brotherhood gang :


So now you know, it is for the benefit of Muslims if they forego the burqa. All progressive Muslim leaders and movements spoke against the burqa.

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I will reply to your last night's post later.

It's pretty obvious that many of the so called "Islamic values" are just repackaged Arab culture and don't actually have much do with Islam. What I meant with it was that the people who were boycotting France, calling for punishments for blasphemers and making anti Ahmadi rants are actually quite cozy about China despite knowing everything they're doing. If India tried to ban the Burqa, would anyone on PDF say "umm ackshually Burqa is just pre Islamic culture and India is right"? But maybe Indus Pakistan is right and the "nationalists" never actually cared about anything. Kashmir has nothing to do with Islam, Muslims, right to self determination etc. Pakistan has only one thing in mind: "self interest". They never actually cared about the people.

 

[jamahir]

It's pretty obvious that many of the so called "Islamic values" are just repackaged Arab culture and don't actually have much do with Islam.

Indeed.

What I meant with it was that the people who were boycotting France, calling for punishments for blasphemers and making anti Ahmadi rants are actually quite cozy about China despite knowing everything they're doing.

Agreed.

Though I agree with the milder things that CPC does in Xinjiang to eliminate extremist attitudes. In the vids that @beijingwalker posts I see lesser burqas in Xinjiang than in India.

And I think it is true that we see no attacks now in Xinjiang that used to be carried out by the East Turkestan Islamic Movement / Al Qaeda that used to happen a few years ago.

If India tried to ban the Burqa, would anyone on PDF say "umm ackshually Burqa is just pre Islamic culture and India is right"?

Yes, half of them wouldn't say that.

But maybe Indus Pakistan is right and the "nationalists" never actually cared about anything. Kashmir has nothing to do with Islam, Muslims, right to self determination etc. Pakistan has only one thing in mind: "self interest". They never actually cared about the people.

1. I agree with things that Indus Pakistan says except his ethno-nationalism.

2. Though Kashmir is a religion issue for Pakistan you are correct that it is mostly strategic self interest. Kashmir being a buffer, a strategic depth for Pakistan. Recently, the Pakistan government welcomed a statement from the OIC which condemned the jailing in Tihar of that regressive Kashmiri woman leader Asiya Andrabi. Pak government is not being caring about the people of Kashmir through this act. The thread on that ( and my post there ) here.

 

[redtom]

Most Uighur children are also being forced into education.Those places are usually called schools.

 

[SBUS-CXK]

He's a stupid troll. They must let the brainless ones on the internet too.

well. little bomb. Has Jack Ma's new story begun? I love the story.

 

[waz]

People have been banned from the thread for firstly engaging in insults, and secondly insulting each other's country and culture.

 

[waz]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1347247602094534658

Interesting phrasing though. If you think this is okay, imagine if India started to "promote Muslim women's right" using these tactics in Kashmir or even the undisputed areas like UP/Kerala.

Edit: replaced sterilisation with re-education in the title per moderator.

The Kashmiris have had their entire population locked down and their leaders arrested. There have been mass deportations of young men, including boys who haven't even reached puberty yet, to central India under terrorism laws. Kashmiris are being beaten senseless in the streets and being made to chant "Jai shree ram" by your own forces. They face the threat of randomly being picked up and then shot, weapons placed at their sides and then the incident being dressed up as a 'terrorist operation.
Yes we can only imagine.....

 

[sinait]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1347247602094534658

Interesting phrasing though. If you think this is okay, imagine if India started to "promote Muslim women's right" using these tactics in Kashmir or even the undisputed areas like UP/Kerala.

Edit: replaced sterilisation with re-education in the title per moderator.

Haha.
This thread is based on a TWEET that is in VIOLATION OF TWITTER RULES.

 

[Cliftonite]

So what you are saying is...

It is not enough that China will be strong again, but that China MUST be strong again. That 'must' now overrides all moral principles internal and external to China as highlighted. For China, the end MUST justifies the means.

Well so does the US.

Need I remind you of US interventions in Third World countries?

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1347247602094534658

Interesting phrasing though. If you think this is okay, imagine if India started to "promote Muslim women's right" using these tactics in Kashmir or even the undisputed areas like UP/Kerala.

Edit: replaced sterilisation with re-education in the title per moderator.

The British government forced me to get an education from the ages of 5 to 11 at primary school; 11 to 16 at secondary school, 16 to 18 at college at 18 to 21 at university. I was then forced to get an MSc aged 40............

 

[AgnosticIndian]

Haha.
This thread is based on a TWEET that is in VIOLATION OF TWITTER RULES.

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Yes, a tweet by the "Chinese embassy in US" was so violent that it had to be removed from Twitter.

 

[shi12jun]

It's funny watching these anti-Chinese clowns perform.
China will continue to rise, and you can only be anxious
Even Trump, the most powerful US President in the world, is powerless against China. Look at Trump now. Hahahaha

 

[sinait]

So what you are saying is...

It is not enough that China will be strong again, but that China MUST be strong again. That 'must' now overrides all moral principles internal and external to China as highlighted. For China, the end MUST justifies the means.

Your description fits to a T the IMMORAL US of A.
US MUST BE STRONG AGAIN, (MAGA).
LIE, CHEAT or STEAL, overriding ALL MORAL PRINCIPLES internal and external to the US.
For US, the END MUST JUSTIFY THE MEANS.
.

 

[Morpheus]

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