China may export J-10B fighters with Russian AL31FN-S3 engines to Pakistan

[Basel]

MIG35 is a dead end aircraft.......with hardly any in service and no exports, JFT alone can match or supersede it's capabilities once the AESA and HOBS is installed.

What we want is a small number of Heavies to protect our shipping lanes. Pakistan will make F-16 fleet number 100 or more.Add 150-200 JFT, we are well covered in the medium and light aircraft roles. 50 heavies will do wonders.

Mig-35 is not dead end Egypt is purchasing them and they have bigger envelope then Mig-29Ks.

Mikoyan MiG-35 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Donatello]

Mig-35 is not dead end Egypt is purchasing them and they have bigger envelope then Mig-29Ks.

Mikoyan MiG-35 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

They have plenty of F-16s and the Rafales are incoming, so i wouldn't take export of MIG35 to Egypt as any yardstick. Probably to keep their Russian partners happy.

 

[pkd]

They have plenty of F-16s and the Rafales are incoming, so i wouldn't take export of MIG35 to Egypt as any yardstick. Probably to keep their Russian partners happy.

Why would Egypt will invest in a fighter that seems to have no foreseeable prospects and by extention that means lack of spares in the future

 

[Basel]

They have plenty of F-16s and the Rafales are incoming, so i wouldn't take export of MIG35 to Egypt as any yardstick. Probably to keep their Russian partners happy.

Their F-16s are not equipped with modern BVR and their IFF treat Israel as friend while Mig-35s will not have those issues.

Egypt steps up interest in MiG-35 deal with Russia
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‘Egypt close to buying 24 MiG-35 Fulcrums’ | AIRheads↑FLY

 

[Donatello]

Their F-16s are not equipped with modern BVR and their IFF treat Israel as friend while Mig-35s will not have those issues.

Egypt steps up interest in MiG-35 deal with Russia
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‘Egypt close to buying 24 MiG-35 Fulcrums’ | AIRheads↑FLY

True, that is why they are going for Rafale, but i think the MIG35 buy is to maybe force USA to finally release the AIM120 to them........otherwise they made a pretty stupid decision to buy BLK52s without AIM120s.......could've bought all MIg35s in that place.....but then again, with Egypt it is a strategic gain....once Russia sorts Syria out....they'll want another reliable partner in the region....and Egypt is a natural choice.

 

[Basel]

True, that is why they are going for Rafale, but i think the MIG35 buy is to maybe force USA to finally release the AIM120 to them........otherwise they made a pretty stupid decision to buy BLK52s without AIM120s.......could've bought all MIg35s in that place.....but then again, with Egypt it is a strategic gain....once Russia sorts Syria out....they'll want another reliable partner in the region....and Egypt is a natural choice.

With Mig-35 they will get 4.5+ gen fighter with no restrictions and in economical price compared to F-16's 4.5+ gen version which also comes with stings.

Rafael as top end and Mig-35 to complement it, and F-16s as workhorse.

 

[princefaisal]

In post Rafale procurement scenario by India, Pakistan should also look for J-10 C with AL-41F1S engines.

If Pakistan gets Su-35 from Russia, then it can also get approval of AL-41F1S engines for J-10C also.

 

[Mughal-Prince]

In post Rafale procurement scenario by India, Pakistan should also look for J-10 C with AL-41F1S engines.

If Pakistan gets Su-35 from Russia, then it can also get approval of AL-41F1S engines for J-10C also.

I am more interested in F-117-S or its improved variants with better fuel efficiency, supercruise, reliability or else the new WS-10 series with latest variants.

 

[Zarvan]

Pakistan needs a third 4.5th General platform and SU-35 or J-11 D and if not them than J-10 C are the great options for us trusting USA is biggest mistake.

 

[Signalian]

No need to hurry. wait for J-31 to get an edge on IAF.

 

[Mughal-Prince]

Pakistan needs a third 4.5th General platform and SU-35 or J-11 D and if not them than J-10 C are the great options for us trusting USA is biggest mistake.

Zarvan brah all of these bare high operating cost in comparison to western counterparts but western machines are expensive to procure.

 

[Peace seeker]

maybe another unconfirmed information................. i really want to know the genuine reference......

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

True, that is why they are going for Rafale, but i think the MIG35 buy is to maybe force USA to finally release the AIM120 to them........otherwise they made a pretty stupid decision to buy BLK52s without AIM120s.......could've bought all MIg35s in that place.....but then again, with Egypt it is a strategic gain....once Russia sorts Syria out....they'll want another reliable partner in the region....and Egypt is a natural choice.

Or, Russia herself gets sorted out?!? Last time they got sorted out were due to WW1 and Afghan war - if history has anything to convey to us!!

With Mig-35 they will get 4.5+ gen fighter with no restrictions and in economical price compared to F-16's 4.5+ gen version which also comes with stings.

Rafael as top end and Mig-35 to complement it, and F-16s as workhorse.

Under the command of Sisi ( no offense to sisters), they will fare worse than the last Arab Istaeli war. As far as Turks are concerned, it's man not machine which brings laurels!!

 

[Akasa]

According to numerous authoritative sources, a variant of the WS-10B with 3D thrust vector control and approximately 145 kN of thrust is being evaluated aboard a flying testbed. The engine has completed ground-based tests.

It is expected to enter service with the J-11D in the future, but installation aboard the J-10C cannot be ruled out.

 

[Syed_Adeel]

China may export its J-10B fighter equipped with the Russian-built AL31FN-S3 engine to Pakistan and other potential buyers from Asia, Latin America and Africa in the near future, writes the Kanwa Defense Review, a Chinese-language military magazine based in Canada.

Chengdu Aircraft Industry Group last year began the mass production of the J-10B fighters. A total of 14 of the jets have already been painted with PLA Air Force markings and turned over to the military while at least 10 aircraft are undergoing test flights. Kanwa said the PLA Air Force will eventually commission 24 J-10Bs to form a fighter regiment before the end of the year.

Designed as the upgraded version of the J-10 fighter, the J-10B is the first domestically designed aircraft fitted with a diverterless supersonic inlet to shield the engine compressor blades from radar waves. The article also noticed that new electronic warfare systems can also been in front of the canards and atop the vertical stabilizer. With infra-red search and track sensors, the aircraft can also carry out reconnaissance operations.

Russia has agreed to sell advanced AL31FN engines to China to improve the J-10B’s power systems and the first batch of the engines is expected this year. This will increase the life of the aircraft from the J-10A’s 500 flight hours to the J-10B’s 750 hours. As China begins to introduce more Russian engines in the future, all J-10B aircraft will be fitted with the AL31FN.

Source : Want China Times

* That' s the engine, which is game changer. Same engine is used in all Russian and Chinese stealth fighters/bombers. Plus same same type used in SU30/35. Same engine is modified for TVC. If Russia approve this engine, then for sure this plane will be in Pak fleet. If PAF has no other issues.

What i understood with PAF planning, there is no place of j10 in PAF for following reasons as summarised below,

1) Jf 17 is going to be workhorse of PAF and its newer versions will have all the capabilities j10 can offer except range and payload

2) F16 is already offering all the features which j10 can offer so PAF has decided to induct mix of new and old f16s
and upgrade them at much lesser cost because inducting j10 will require a whole new infrastructure to training and maintaining and operating without adding any new capability advantage.

3) PAF has decided to maintain 100+ (new and MLU upgraded old ) f16s and hundreds of JFTs till 2025 at max. after that PAF will got for 5th gen.

I think this is the most beneficial in terms of survivability and cost to benefit ratio.