China may export J-10B fighters with Russian AL31FN-S3 engines to Pakistan

[graphican]

uestion is how many?? are we going for 36 or more??

136! Its Ramzan, ask for more!

 

[Zarvan]

And Sir, would you like FRIES with some KETCHUP ......

You think I am being childish but I stand by my views 270 JF-17 Thunder and 100 F-16 and 100 either J-10B or J-11D is the way forward.

 

[Sage]

Pakistan is not interested in J-10 B any more ...J-11 D on the other hand still has a shot !

 

[Umair Nawaz]

yaar im interested in J11B and specially J15. These are best.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

and some FRIES with KETCHUP ......

with diet coke make it large please .
money is no issue just like 100 J-10s

yaar im interested in J11B and specially J15. These are best.

they are simply SU-27 Su-30 clones with some Chinese equipment they are as good as any other Chinese product in the modern times like J-10

 

[nana41]

Give little idea. PAF engineers were involved and donated one Mirage when this plane development started. But the issue was engine, when Russian refused third party export of AL31 engine. Pakistan had no choice just to scrap the deal. Now Russian has change the policy, hopefully Pak will get this engine.

J-10 is based on cancelled Israeli project called LAVEY due to U S refusal of supply of GE engine under ToT,although U S has already helped Israel a lot to develop avionics and radar for this Lavey project.Its that radar and avionics that became the basis of flourishing Israeli avionic industries today.
Israel transferred the technology of MIRAGE based Kafir on which Indian TEJAS is based.Pakistan will suffer,if ever she transferred (against a contract) American/French technology to any country.Read my last post carefully,.

 

[princefaisal]

Some members are in favor of J-10 while some are against it for induction in PAF. Only PAF will decide whether to proceed with J-10 or not. It all depends upon price (aircraft cost, maintenance cost, spares etc), its capability, its availability, risks from enemy and some terms & conditions.
The J-10A has a service ceiling of 18,000m (while F-16 has 15,240m, JF-17 has 16,920m). The French Rafale has a lower service ceiling of 16,800m. For combat, the same missile launched at a higher altitude (such as 18,000m) will fly further. On the other hand, a French Rafale cannot engage a high-flying J-10A at 18,000m (which is 1,200m beyond the French Rafale's service ceiling).
Geng Ruguang, senior vice president of China Aviation Industry Corporation, said the J-10B's active phased array airborne radar enables the fighter to track six targets and engage four of them simultaneously.
However J-10 may not be good for other roles which JF-17 and F-16 can do better. Every aircraft has its own positive and negative points. So a combination of three different aircrafts can be very lethal for the enemy.

 

[airmarshal]

Some years ago, China did offer Pakistan 36 J-10B. Pakistan did turn them down saying it wants to invest in a future generation aircraft.

With F-16s and JF-17s, J-10B will create a redundancy of capability and expense overhead for maintaining a new kind of platform.

I read about Pakistan turning down the offer and invest new generation platform somewhere on this forum. It was PAF Air Chief interview, if I recall correctly.

 

[Muhammad Omar]

Some years ago, China did offer Pakistan 36 J-10B. Pakistan did turn them down saying it wants to invest in a future generation aircraft.

With F-16s and JF-17s, J-10B will create a redundancy of capability and expense overhead for maintaining a new kind of platform.

I read about Pakistan turning down the offer and invest new generation platform somewhere on this forum. It was PAF Air Chief interview, if I recall correctly.

It was Ex. Chief saying Pakistan should Focus on 5th Generation Fighters.... not on 4th Generation (J-10)

 

[Zarvan]

with diet coke make it large please .
money is no issue just like 100 J-10s


they are simply SU-27 Su-30 clones with some Chinese equipment they are as good as any other Chinese product in the modern times like J-10

Sir but new J-11 D is far more advance than any other jet economy is the issue other wise we should get 100 of those instead of J-10 B

 

[Imran Khan]

now its new story ? damn got some heavy fighter then like j-11b

 

[Zarvan]

Some years ago, China did offer Pakistan 36 J-10B. Pakistan did turn them down saying it wants to invest in a future generation aircraft.

With F-16s and JF-17s, J-10B will create a redundancy of capability and expense overhead for maintaining a new kind of platform.

I read about Pakistan turning down the offer and invest new generation platform somewhere on this forum. It was PAF Air Chief interview, if I recall correctly.

Don't trust Armed Forces interviews they on purpose lie they can't afford to tell the truth, it can be dangerous so they can still get J-10B.

 

[Emilly David]

with diet coke make it large please .
money is no issue just like 100 J-10s


they are simply SU-27 Su-30 clones with some Chinese equipment they are as good as any other Chinese product in the modern times like J-10

Thank you Sir for writing this up. Finally a sane voice.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Sir but new J-11 D is far more advance than any other jet economy is the issue other wise we should get 100 of those instead of J-10 B

I agree completely and would prefer J-11 over J-10. a heavy twin engine jet can serve as missile and bomb platform but will require radical change in PAF thinking.. I disagree with inducting 100s of whatever of these two aircrafts though
instead inducting few for stop gap until J-31 becomes a reality .

 

[Zarvan]

I agree completely and would prefer J-11 over J-10. a heavy twin engine jet can serve as missile and bomb platform but will require radical change in PAF thinking.. I disagree with inducting 100s of whatever of these two aircrafts though
instead inducting few for stop gap until J-31 becomes a reality .

Sir we need 450 Jets and 270 JF-17 and 100 F-16 and 100 J-11 D should be the way forward