China, India scaled 'astronomical' heights when West was in Dark Ages

[Gadkari]

Ya explain how the Japanese, Mongols n British did this.

Did they do this? Wanna keep deluding yourself?

So the Mongols did not rule over china ?

Japanese did not rule over parts of china ?

A lot of indian history is fake and written by white racists who were actually looking for their own glory free of Jewish christianity. Sanskrit contary to what some indians believe here was actually hyper inflated by western historians and in fact it is a constructed language. A lot of sanskrit words were actually borrowed from south Indian languages like Telugu (not surprising as British first colony was in south eastern side). All the culture by local darkskinned dravidians was taken and pasted on to a constructed language like sanskrit and where did sanskrit origniate as per them ? in European border by white blonde people ofcourse - Lol.

In fact many western colonists then infiltrated Indian society as brahmins and wrote gibberish books which were given fake antiquity and was eventually credited to pure "aryans" from steppes. This was done to legitimize te british rule as original veda rule . You can see here Yajur veda the fourth veda written by french actually .

The biggest victims of this fraud were south indians and non-brahmin caste as their cultural acheivements were taken and spun to support a theory of white aryans diluted to somewhat lighter brahmins and then to others.

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[055_destroyer]

So the Mongols did not rule over china ?

Japanese did not rule over parts of china ?

If an invader take over a country and start speaking native language, practicing their culture and abandon its own. I will not called colonize. More like getting assimilated.

The best example of colonize will be South American. Who dropped Maya native language and embrace Catholic and speak Spanish. That is called real colonized.

Qing take over Chinese han and the only culture they forced upon Chinese is queue, other than that. They celebrate Lunar New Year. Used Chinese practice, speak Chinese and act like a Chinese. You called that Colonizze?

Imagine British takeover India and then they speak Hindu and embrace Hinduism and don't speak English anymore. You called that a British victory? LOL...

 

[ohmrlobalobayeh]

So the Mongols did not rule over china ?

Japanese did not rule over parts of china ?



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Is inner Mongolia not part of china today? Is the Yuan dynasty(even this name is Chinese) and Mongols not part of the Chinese nation? Wanna do more research before u spew bullshit after bullshit?

At where did the Japanese colonised china? War n occupation by japan = japan colonised china?

Theres no independance day in china- only https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victory_over_Japan_Day#China

Oh n u r avoiding the British part. Ans please- Hong Kong = 'parts of china'?

 

[letsrock]

it is not clear Budha was ever a historical person. It was always seen as a philospohical thought against brahmin casteism. But the Aryan budha as historical prince sidhartha appears to be clearly a wet dream of 19th century german indologists.
India does have great history but it has nothing to do with sanskrit etc. Infact western Indology is obsessed with sanskrit a language anyone in India barely speaks. A lof of sanskrit words are probably made up. Just imagine how come an ultra ancient super sophisticated language did not have a script of own and had to take script from dravidian culture ?

 

[ohmrlobalobayeh]

Is inner Mongolia not part of china today? Is the Yuan dynasty(even this name is Chinese) and Mongols not part of the Chinese nation? Wanna do more research before u spew bullshit after bullshit?

At where did the Japanese colonised china? War n occupation by japan = japan colonised china?

Theres no independance day in china- only https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victory_over_Japan_Day#China

Oh n u r avoiding the British part. Ans please- Hong Kong = 'parts of china'?

Let's cut the story short n get to the point straight-

Indian civillization is so weak n its people so disunited that she gets invaded and colonised by 1 after another.

Thanks

If an invader take over a country and start speaking native language, practicing their culture and abandon its own. I will not called colonize. More like getting assimilated.

The best example of colonize will be South American. Who dropped Maya native language and embrace Catholic and speak Spanish. That is called real colonized.

Qing take over Chinese han and the only culture they forced upon Chinese is queue, other than that. They celebrate Lunar New Year. Used Chinese practice, speak Chinese and act like a Chinese. You called that Colonizze?

Imagine British takeover India and then they speak Hindu and embrace Hinduism and don't speak English anymore. You called that a British victory? LOL...

Glory to the https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emperor_of_India, who ruled India from an island to the far west, lolz.

So https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_Victoria becomes 'Rani Victoria'? Hindi was the court language of Westminster?

Rani Victoria and her English subjects ate with their bare hands- n wiped their asses with the same?

 

[Gadkari]

Is inner Mongolia not part of china today? Is the Yuan dynasty(even this name is Chinese) and Mongols not part of the Chinese nation? Wanna do more research before u spew bullshit after bullshit?

At where did the Japanese colonised china? War n occupation by japan = japan colonised china?

Theres no independance day in china- only https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victory_over_Japan_Day#China

Oh n u r avoiding the British part. Ans please- Hong Kong = 'parts of china'?

Mongolia is a separate country. Land of the mongols. The people who ruled your country.

Any occupation and rule is colonization. Including the one by Japan. Same with british over HK or Macau etc.

If an invader take over a country and start speaking native language, practicing their culture and abandon its own. I will not called colonize. More like getting assimilated.

The best example of colonize will be South American. Who dropped Maya native language and embrace Catholic and speak Spanish. That is called real colonized.

Qing take over Chinese han and the only culture they forced upon Chinese is queue, other than that. They celebrate Lunar New Year. Used Chinese practice, speak Chinese and act like a Chinese. You called that Colonizze?

Imagine British takeover India and then they speak Hindu and embrace Hinduism and don't speak English anymore. You called that a British victory? LOL...

Your argument is self defeating. Indians continue to speak local languages, practice Hinduism and our own culture. Unlike the mayan's who's entire culture was wiped out. Mongol Kings of china did not speak in chinese either. They spoke Mongol language.

it is not clear Budha was ever a historical person. It was always seen as a philospohical thought against brahmin casteism. But the Aryan budha as historical prince sidhartha appears to be clearly a wet dream of 19th century german indologists.
India does have great history but it has nothing to do with sanskrit etc. Infact western Indology is obsessed with sanskrit a language anyone in India barely speaks. A lof of sanskrit words are probably made up. Just imagine how come an ultra ancient super sophisticated language did not have a script of own and had to take script from dravidian culture ?

LOL again.

Oldest Sanskrit script is the "Brahmi script" (corruption of Brahmin script). The South Indian language script is a variation of this script. Not the other way around.

There is plenty of evidence of Buddha, unlike the lack of evidence of the existence of christ.

 

[ohmrlobalobayeh]

Mongolia is a separate country. Land of the mongols. The people who ruled your country.

Any occupation and rule is colonization. Including the one by Japan. Same with british over HK or Macau etc.

No my question is

Does Hong Kong qualifies as 'parts' of china? Especially when compared to the British Raj- Yes or no? <= y keep avoiding?

Occupation n rule => colonization? In wartime? You sure?

Y cherrypick n cut off the part that inner Mongolia and Mongols was, were and still is and are part of CHina today? Is the https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuan_dynasty a Chinese or Mongolian name?<= answer this

 

[Gadkari]

No my question is

Does Hong Kong qualifies as 'parts' of china? Especially when compared to the British Raj- Yes or no? <= y keep avoiding?

Occupation n rule => colonization? In wartime? You sure?

Y cherrypick n cut off the part that inner Mongolia and Mongols was, were and still is and are part of CHina today? Is the https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuan_dynasty a Chinese or Mongolian name?<= answer this

Don't care if HK is part of china or not. But they were certainly a british colony.

Mongol kings and rulers had their own language DIFFERENT from chinese language and also their own Script.

Their empire was also known as the Khanate, not Yuan.

They started calling themselves Yuan only much later during the end of kubali khan's rule.

 

[letsrock]

Mongolia is a separate country. Land of the mongols. The people who ruled your country.

Any occupation and rule is colonization. Including the one by Japan. Same with british over HK or Macau etc.



Your argument is self defeating. Indians continue to speak local languages, practice Hinduism and our own culture. Unlike the mayan's who's entire culture was wiped out. Mongol Kings of china did not speak in chinese either. They spoke Mongol language.



LOL again.

Oldest Sanskrit script is the "Brahmi script" (corruption of Brahmin script). The South Indian language script is a variation of this script. Not the other way around.

There is plenty of evidence of Buddha, unlike the lack of evidence of the existence of christ.

Brahmi script has nothing to do with Brahmin caste you juvenile bhakth moron. That script existed in Indus valley and in tamil language all known with more antiquity. while Vedas are clearly known as Sruti or passed as oral tradition. When a culture developed alphabet why in the hell would it need to pass it orally. There is not a single vedic inscription anywhere in an indian temple. No hard evidence of vedas anywhere.

Jesuits searched for vedas everywher in india and what they found was actually written in Telugu !!! Why would it be so hard when there were millions of brahmins living then leaeve alone hundred of millions of "hindus"

 

[ohmrlobalobayeh]

Don't care if HK is part of china or not. But they were certainly a british colony.

Mongol kings and rulers had their own language DIFFERENT from chinese language and also their own Script.

Their empire was also known as the Khanate, not Yuan.

They started calling themselves Yuan only much later during the end of kubali khan's rule.

Nope that's not what I meant n u knew it. Let's face it, u're trying to give the impression that a substantial portion of china was British-ruled when they only had the peninsula/archipelago of hongkong in guangdong which is as big as

this red dot(atually its much smaller than the red dot)

U sure they don't call themselves the Great Yuan?

Hey thanks, u admitted yourself- the Mongols assimilated themselves into being Chinese

So what gives?

Hence I repeat:

Indian civillization is so weak and her people so disunited that she gets invaded and colonised by 1 after another for more than 450 years- a pattern of legacy that continues to this day with india living in the UK's shadow and being a puppet of the US, despite having more than a billion plus citizens.

Nobody looks up to indian civillization that is more well known for ppl shitting on the streets and drinking cow piss( and yes- the infamous rape culture and smelly bodies)

 

[Gadkari]

Brahmi script has nothing to do with Brahmin caste you juvenile bhakth moron. That script existed in Indus valley and in tamil language all known with more antiquity. while Vedas are clearly known as Sruti or passed as oral tradition. When a culture developed alphabet why in the hell would it need to pass it orally. There is not a single vedic inscription anywhere in an indian temple. No hard evidence of vedas anywhere.

Jesuits searched for vedas everywher in india and what they found was actually written in Telugu !!! Why would it be so hard when there were millions of brahmins living then leaeve alone hundred of millions of "hindus"

1. Its seems to me that you are a South Indian Rice bag convert. , who is unable to come to terms with his own betrayal of his ancestors, culture and traditions.

2. The oral tradition in Sanskrit was BEFORE the script was invented for it

Once the script was invented, there was both oral and written tradition.

3. Temples follow Agama , not Veda. Agama is a subset of the Vedas. Temple inscriptions mention Vedic Yagna's like Ashwamegha done by patron kings.

E.g. The Raja Surya Yagna conducted by the Chola kings of Tamil Nadu.

4. I couldn't care less of what the jesuits found. ..... did they find the grave of St. Thomas in south India ?

 

[055_destroyer]

Mongolia is a separate country. Land of the mongols. The people who ruled your country.

Any occupation and rule is colonization. Including the one by Japan. Same with british over HK or Macau etc.



Your argument is self defeating. Indians continue to speak local languages, practice Hinduism and our own culture. Unlike the mayan's who's entire culture was wiped out. Mongol Kings of china did not speak in chinese either. They spoke Mongol language.

That is why Mongol Rule is the shortest in Chinese history. They heavily used Chinese scholar to run their China. Mongol Ruler did embrace Chinese culture like imperial exam to select officers, celebrate Chinese new year and rule China according to previous Chinese dynasty administration.

You are selective, how about the Qing? They embrace Taoism which is Chinese and used Hans writing as official language, they don't even have Manchu name but give themselves Chinese name. They employ Dragon instead of Gryofalcon as their national symbol which is a living legend for China history. The last few emperor of Qing don't even know how to write Manchu and speak Manchu. You called that colonize of Chinese. LOL.. You must be delusion.

As for British, their language is still widely employ by India as one of the official language. The funny is, you must muster English then you can study science and physic and chemistry in order to further your education in India. I will say British until now is still successful in colonise India and their legacy continue.

Do you see local Chinese education need to study Japanese in order to further physics, chemistry or Maths? No.
Everything is Chinese. If you want to study Japanese in China, it just an additional foreign language study based on personal interest.

 

[ohmrlobalobayeh]

Despite being a 'great' civillization and an 'incredible India' campaign, India is not in the top 10.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Tourism_rankings

Nobody wants to visit shitistan

 

[Gadkari]

Nope that's not what I meant n u knew it. Let's face it, u're trying to give the impression that a substantial portion of china was British-ruled when they only had the peninsula/archipelago of hongkong in guangdong which is as big as

this red dot(atually its much smaller than the red dot)

U sure they don't call themselves the Great Yuan?

Hey thanks, u admitted yourself- the Mongols assimilated themselves into being Chinese

So what gives?

Hence I repeat:

Indian civillization is so weak and her people so disunited that she gets invaded and colonised by 1 after another for more than 450 years- a pattern of legacy that continues to this day with india living in the UK's shadow and being a puppet of the US, despite having more than a billion plus citizens.

Nobody looks up to indian civillization that is more well known for ppl shitting on the streets and drinking cow piss( and yes- the infamous rape culture and smelly bodies)

By the same standard the Mughals too assimilated themselves into being Indian since they started patronizing a few Hindu temples, festivals and art. The emergence of "urdu" as a langauge also points to assimilation per chinese definition.

What is good for the goose, is also good for that gander.

Communism itself a is Neo colonization since its based on the idea of a European Karl Marx and practices by a Russian called Lenin.

I am ignoring your Straw Man called HK since its clear that you just want to knock it down and claim some sort of moral victory.

That is why Mongol Rule is the shortest in Chinese history. They heavily used Chinese scholar to run their China. Mongol Ruler did embrace Chinese culture like imperial exam to select officers, celebrate Chinese new year and rule China according to previous Chinese dynasty administration.

You are selective, how about the Qing? They embrace Taoism which is Chinese and used Hans writing as official language, they don't even have Manchu name but give themselves Chinese name. They employ Dragon instead of Gryofalcon as their national symbol which is a living legend for China history. The last few emperor of Qing don't even know how to write Manchu and speak Manchu. You called that colonize of Chinese. LOL.. You must be delusion.

As for British, their language is still widely employ by India as one of the official language. The funny is, you must muster English then you can study science and physic and chemistry in order to further your education in India. I will say British until now is still successful in colonise India and their legacy continue.

Do you see local Chinese education need to study Japanese in order to further physics, chemistry or Maths? No.
Everything is Chinese. If you want to study Japanese in China, it just an additional foreign language study based on personal interest.

You are speaking to me in English, so by your own standards you have been colonized by the british. You have adopted their dress sense, language, work style, and philosophies.

Is sunday a working day in china ? if not you have adopted the western xtian system of sunday being a 'day of rest'. SO you must be colonized by your own reasoning.

Same is true for Han chinese colonizing the rest of non Han china.

This sword cuts both ways.

 

[055_destroyer]

By the same standard the Mughals too assimilated themselves into being Indian since they started patronizing a few Hindu temples, festivals and art. The emergence of "urdu" as a langauge also points to assimilation per chinese definition.

What is good for the goose, is also good for that gander.

Communism itself a is Neo colonization since its based on the idea of a European Karl Marx and practices by a Russian called Lenin.

I am ignoring your Straw Man called HK since its clear that you just want to knock it down and claim some sort of moral victory.

I let you win on Mughal but Mughal essentially speak Persian and practice Islam which is far from majority Hindu but you will lose on the British empire part? Tell me, did British speak Hindi or convert to Hinduism? Is English a critical part of Indian education system? If you don't study English. Can you progress further to PHD in Indian education?

Do Chinese need to speak Japanese or foreign language in order to further their local education?

By the same standard the Mughals too assimilated themselves into being Indian since they started patronizing a few Hindu temples, festivals and art. The emergence of "urdu" as a langauge also points to assimilation per chinese definition.

What is good for the goose, is also good for that gander.

Communism itself a is Neo colonization since its based on the idea of a European Karl Marx and practices by a Russian called Lenin.

I am ignoring your Straw Man called HK since its clear that you just want to knock it down and claim some sort of moral victory.



You are speaking to me in English, so by your own standards you have been colonized by the british. You have adopted their dress sense, language, work style, and philosophies.

Is sunday a working day in china ? if not you have adopted the western xtian system of sunday being a 'day of rest'. SO you must be colonized by your own reasoning.

Same is true for Han chinese colonizing the rest of non Han china.

This sword cuts both ways.

You are selective, I speak to you in English is due to personal preference and worldwide communication and not a must in Chinese local education. But you need to use an foreign language like English to further your own Indian education. See the inferiority of Indian compare to Chinese...

A Chinese can become a professor in China and advance science without need to use English but Chinese only. How about India? Zero and not possible. Indian must speak English to further themselves in Indian education system. How absurd that is. Its a national humiliation and real colonized.