China gets tough against Hong Kong trouble-makers

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

as boring as a standardized brainless comments from cheerleaders living in a fake democracy!

fake democracy? more CCP certifications?

yeah keep and enlarge the slum areas as much as you can if you enjoy the aesthetic side of the slums

Ability to decide for slums in India is not in my hands, so you are talking to the wrong person

we are trying to eradict any bit of it!

Very nice!

we dont have this kind of aesthetic appreciation.

Who is we here?

they are all yours!

Did i mention supporting Aesthetic beauty of slums as some form of parameter? Your Indophobic perversions seem to be affecting your reading and judgmental skills now

 

[shuttler]

do you guys see any indians among the HK trouble-makers?

these people should be thankful living in a much better conditions than their homeland

 

[Fanling Monk]

http://www.defence.pk/forums/members-introduction/215501-good-day-how-you.html#post3537697

He says he is 32, born in Kansas City, stayed in China for 18 years, was educated in Shenzhen and HK, was raised in South East Asia, lived a few years in HK, spend 3 years in Stockholm. Studied Politics then went into army, served in Afghanistan and Iraq. Then he says his mom has been living in HK for 65 years.

Since when is China part of South East Asia? Was there a reason for this guy to live in China while his mom was in HK? I seriously have doubt about his life story....

I think he mentioned he was born in Australia in one of his post. Not that I care if he didn't put China down constantly.


Here is the picture of Chungking Mansion where most South Asian live in Hong Kong now a days. It's considered a slum but is not too shabby though. Most Indians move to better pastures as some newcomers take their places.

 

[shuttler]

I think he mentioned he was born in Australia in one of his post. Not that I care if he didn't put China down constantly.


Here is the picture of Chungking Mansion where most South Asian live in Hong Kong now a days. It's considered a slum but is not too shabby though. Most Indians move to better pastures as some newcomers take their places.

that is a 5 star hotel in bombay!

I saw a movie directed by Wang Jia Wei, Faye Wang and Tony Liang about Chungking Mansion. It was a good movie

 

[Icecreamcart]

is the cause of income disparity the root for all these HK trouble-makers? or they are politically motivated?

there are slums in developed countries/ cities almost all over the world including USA UK and of course HK. Do the slums in HK get easy clean and safe access to toilets, water, electricity and social welfare? HOw do the slums in HK compare with those in india?

Staggering income inequality and financial hardship is the main motivator. An inadequate social net also contributes to this state. Personally, I think the lack of capital inflow controls and property speculation drives up land prices, placing greater pressure on the poor. Laws are essentially bought by money. Hong Kong is the best example of a plutocracy.

There's the roof-top slums and shanty-towns, and the unspoken cage homes many of the city's poor reside in.

Even if there's access to basic sanitary conditions such as water, electricity and plumbing, is it really better sharing a room with 21 other people in cages? This is the hidden face of Hong Kong.


It's really the poverty-stricken version of Tokyo.

 

[Fanling Monk]

Right now this is the real problem in Hong Kong in terms of housing, so is up to the government to build more low income dwellings for the very poor. The roof top shanty abodes has no place in a city that's rich in cash.


The total consideration for sale and purchase agreements in October was HK$77.9 billion, up 182.6 percent from a year ago. And it was 45.3 percent higher compared with September, the Land Registry said today.
The number of sale and purchase agreements for all building units received for registration in October was 11,928, up 110.2 percent compared with the same period last year.
Among the sale and purchase agreements, 8,714 were for residential units, representing a 87.7 percent growth from October 2011. The total consideration such agreements was HK$54.8 billion, up 144.1 percent compared from 12 months back.

Property deals soar - The Standard

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Hong Kong's poor pay high price for tiny homes

Nestled among Hong Kong's iconic skyscrapers are some of the most expensive properties in the world, with high-class apartments in exclusive areas.

But amid the luxury is a darker side to the city's real estate, where poor people are paying a heavy price.

In this industrial area, factory buildings have been illegally modified into subdivided flats.

Yu Wai-chan is one of 30 people renting rooms in this building - where 180 U.S. dollars buys him a sparse living space.

SOUNDBITE: YU WAI-CHAN, 50-YEAR-OLD SUBDIVIDED FLAT RESIDENT, SAYING (Cantonese):

"Under normal circumstances, this is not fit for humans to live. I mean, usually this is not a suitable place for normal people to live. But some people, like myself, live here only because the rent is cheap."

Around 100,000 people in Hong Kong live in subdivided flats or units known as "bed homes".

And with property prices jumping as much as 20 percent in recent months, even rent for these tiny rooms is on the rise.

Some residents at this "bed home" have spent decades living with basic amenities.

But beds that used to cost just 13 U.S. dollars, are now priced at around 170 dollars.

Local officials say by square feet, that's more expensive than luxury housing.

http://www.vision.org/visionmedia/visionvideos.aspx?id=61430

 

[PeaceGen]

Love China or leave, Lu Ping tells Hong Kong's would-be secessionists | South China Morning Post

"Those who do not recognise they are Chinese should look at what is written on their passports or they should renounce their Chinese nationality."

So says Lu Ping, former director of the State Council's Hong Kong and Macau Affairs Office. "Our country, which has a population of 1.3 billion, would not be bothered losing this handful of people," Lu stated in an exchange of email with the South China Morning Post.

Lu made the comments when attacking people in the city who do not want to acknowledge their nationality.

Under the Nationality Law of the People's Republic of China, people can apply to renounce their nationality if they are a close relative of a foreign national, are settled abroad, or for other legitimate reasons.

Lu told the Post he noted some people had waved the British flag and held up posters calling for "Hong Kong independence" at a recent protest in the city. "They claim the only way out for Hong Kong is to become an independent nation," he said.

It was the second time Lu has commented on calls for Hong Kong independence. In a letter to the Post on October 12 he said "these guys who advocate for Hong Kong independence are sheer morons". "Deprived of support from the mainland, Hong Kong would be a dead city." Lu said it was good his remarks had triggered controversy.

Last week, Lu's former deputy, Chen Zuoer, said "the rise of a pro-independence force in Hong Kong is spreading like a virus" and should be dealt with firmly.

Yesterday, an editorial in the state-run Global Times described the notion of an independent Hong Kong as a "false proposition". It said a minority of Hongkongers had stirred up anti-mainland sentiment because they were losing their sense of superiority over mainlanders.

Dickson Cheung - the spokesman of a group that has set up a Facebook page called "We are Hongkongers, not Chinese" - had this to say in response to Lu's latest attack on those who did not want to acknowledge their Chinese nationality: "We do not even want an SAR [Special Administrative Region] passport. But what can we do?"

Executive Council convenor Lam Woon-kwong said he did not see the emergence of a movement for independence, even though some people had waved the British flag during protests.


Good move! Now it's time to do the same against Taiwan's Japan-worshippers. Only nations with the discipline to crack down on trouble-makers in its midst can survive and thrive.

Hong-Kong is China for sure.

Tibet and Taiwan could use a little self-governance rights, but are also Chinese. Or at least WELL WITHIN the LEGITIMATE sphere of influence of China.

Don't say I don't support Chinese sovereignty, Chinese posters on this forum

 

[PeaceGen]

Staggering income inequality and financial hardship is the main motivator. An inadequate social net also contributes to this state. Personally, I think the lack of capital inflow controls and property speculation drives up land prices, placing greater pressure on the poor. Laws are essentially bought by money. Hong Kong is the best example of a plutocracy.

There's the roof-top slums and shanty-towns, and the unspoken cage homes many of the city's poor reside in.

Even if there's access to basic sanitary conditions such as water, electricity and plumbing, is it really better sharing a room with 21 other people in cages? This is the hidden face of Hong Kong.


It's really the poverty-stricken version of Tokyo.

China should build better accomodation for it's citizens A.S.A.P.

That's better than population-control, a better way to stay in power, Chinese government..

 

[Icecreamcart]

China should build better accomodation for it's citizens A.S.A.P.

That's better than population-control, a better way to stay in power, Chinese government..

Not China, the Hong Kong administrative government.

Selling land to HK property tycoons is much more profitable than building affordable housing. So why would they bother? Most of the people living in roof-top slums and the cage rooms are out of the system.

 

[shuttler]

Staggering income inequality and financial hardship is the main motivator. An inadequate social net also contributes to this state. Personally, I think the lack of capital inflow controls and property speculation drives up land prices, placing greater pressure on the poor. Laws are essentially bought by money. Hong Kong is the best example of a plutocracy.

There's the roof-top slums and shanty-towns, and the unspoken cage homes many of the city's poor reside in.

Even if there's access to basic sanitary conditions such as water, electricity and plumbing, is it really better sharing a room with 21 other people in cages? This is the hidden face of Hong Kong.

It's really the poverty-stricken version of Tokyo.

OMG! the men sitting on the side of beds are worse than the conditions of prison cells and I can see an air-conditioner on the roof-top rusty shanties which have to brave seasonal storms all the time.

But at least they have clean water. bath, toilets safe and convenient power supply and a society where the girls wont be afraid of going out after dark

It is just a natural phenomenon in a small place like HK where 7 million people are crammed together! land prices shoot up easily as a result of high demand low supply.

The government desperately need to do something to avoid rising social chaos due to the widening social differences there

I think one long term solution to the difficulty that HK is facing is for the central government to grant land to HK, just like what they have gifted Hengqin to Macau.

 

[shuttler]

Not China, the Hong Kong administrative government.

Selling land to HK property tycoons is much more profitable than building affordable housing. So why would they bother? Most of the people living in roof-top slums and the cage rooms are out of the system.

HK is a piece of rock without much natural resources other than manpower and land which are the most precious. I think the practice of auctioning land to the tycoons was initiated by the brits

 

[shuttler]

Right now this is the real problem in Hong Kong in terms of housing, so is up to the government to build more low income dwellings for the very poor. The roof top shanty abodes has no place in a city that's rich in cash.

That is the way to go!

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

that is a 5 star hotel in bombay!

Chungking Mansion in Bombay?

, Unless Chungking Mansion land is recognized as sovereign territory of India?

 

[Icecreamcart]

OMG! the men sitting on the side of beds are worse than the conditions of prison cells and I can see an air-conditioner on the roof-top rusty shanties which have to brave seasonal storms all the time.

But at least they have clean water. bath, toilets safe and convenient power supply and a society where the girls wont be afraid of going out after dark

It is just a natural phenomenon in a small place like HK where 7 million people are crammed together! land prices shoot up easily as a result of high demand low supply.

The government desperately need to do something to avoid rising social chaos due to the widening social differences there

I think one long term solution to the difficulty that HK is facing is for the central government to grant land to HK, just like what they have gifted Hengqin to Macau.

Land reclamation would be a viable way to alleviate these conditions. The cost isn't terribly high as opposed to the benefits, but it will never go ahead with property tycoons controlling Hong Kong.

Only a quarter of H.K land is developed. 40% is national parks and natural preserves.

There's alot of hilly area that could be expanded and developed for public housing, but no, it's all taken by property developers.

 

[terranMarine]

The property developers is also part of the problem. The previous government didn't do much, lets hope this one does.