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China gets tough against Hong Kong trouble-makers

I dont think there are many of those in the small bunch of imperial flag beareres, most likely none of vietnamese refugees among them

If you talk of VN refugees in HK, as far as I know most of them went to the US and other countries as the HK government did not allow them to stay. Interesting is, some of these Vietnamese refugees were Chinese settlers.
 
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Macau people never rise Macau-Porturgese flag.
Don't put us in this topic.
 
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If you talk of VN refugees in HK, as far as I know most of them went to the US and other countries as the HK government did not allow them to stay. Interesting is, some of these Vietnamese refugees were Chinese settlers.

the brits were so inconsiderate and so apathetic towards humanity

The exodus of Chinese-Vietanmese refugees was the result of the vietcongs ethnic crackdowns as they are the most ruthless people in the world ranking on the same breath as some of the religious, japanese and white extremists

I dont mind giving permanent refuges to all the Chinese Vietnamese and Vietnamese alike so as to take them out of their misery during the indo-Chine turmoils
 
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Thank goodness the small bunch of idiots wont erupt into massive rebellious movements, bomb attacks, massacres, bloody crackdowns, marshall laws that are ravaging in india!

Give it time. And some NGO's. :angel:
 
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hong kong should be returned to indians as the indians along with the brits built HK. else it would have been a barren rock

Indian built HK? Interesting.
Anyway India should be returned to the UK, all hail the empire on which the sun never sets.
 
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Hong Kong Problem is not something Average Chinese nor Average West would understand.

In short, the Hong Kong people feel they were betrayed by both side.

There are people who would defend the Chinese clause, but there are also people who want to restore British Control. In between, there are people who simply, don't care.

In my time in Hong Kong, i have both seen before and after the turn over (the 1st July 1997) and what people in Hong Kong generally feel is not something normally people would understand.

Hong Kong have no social nor national identity, they don't consider they are part of Chinese (They labeled the Chinese "Mainlander") and try very hard to seperate themselve from the new immigrant forom mainland China or chinese in general, they speak different language (Cantonese/English vs PTH) and they uses different currency than mainland China (HKD vs RMB), the Hong Kogn have their own flag rather than using the Chinese flag alone (Which is special as not even a single Provice of China got its own flag)

On the other hand, Hong Kong People also hate their British master. Theink as they have abandon them and totally rip them off.

The relations is very complex and you cannot find anywhere in the world with this sort of government to government relationship. You can say Hong Kong is a colony of China and you can say it doesn't, the relation is most like Puerto Rican and American, with the only different is Puerto Rican think themselve as American in general although they speak a different language than the American.

The problem lies beneth the surface, very deep believe, as most Hong Kong people do not trust the british as they keep a lot of promise and not even one came true, and they took every available resource back to the UK and leave the Hong Kong people to its faith. However, while hating the British, they also hate the Chinese, thye expect the Chinese to do better but well, in the end, what promised as unchange for 50 years in reality, every faces in Hong Kong have been changed a thousand time when it's not only 20 years has gone.

The fact to the matter is, the love-hate relationship between China and Hong Kong is nothing you ever see in the world, there is a survey done by Ming Pao (A very prominent news paper in Hong Kong) in 2000 asking 5000 ethnic chinese people a few question regarding the nationality of Hong Kong. Which show 95% of Hong Kong resident consider themselve of Hong Kong (Not Chinese nor British) Nationality but when ask if Hong Kong people generally Chinese, they would also say yes.

I don't believe there are voices of independence in Hong Kong, people just don't care about these stuff, as long as they run as a seperate government (although the Hong Kong Government did everything the Chinese People Congress told them to), but what generally worse is Cina keep piping people down to Hong Kong, you would get disapproval of what the Chinese government do, but still as the Chinese trumpp everything and the Head of States of Hong Kong (The Chief Executive) is merely a puppet to China, the Hogn Kong people can't do anything about them.

800px-Flag_of_Hong_Kong.svg.png

600px-Flag_of_Hong_Kong_1959.svg.png
 
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In short, the Hong Kong people feel they were betrayed by both side.

Who is the "Hong Kong people"?

Also where is the news of the survey from MingPao.


I have found this one, for Chinese speaker only:
http://www.mingpaomonthly.com/cfm/Archive2.cfm?File=200708/cal/01a.txt&Page=4

數據(表一)也顯示,香港逾半居民趨向包容「香港人」與「中國人」兩個身份認同。換言之,對這些民眾而言,這兩種身份認同並不矛盾,可以並容。然而,必須指出的是,「香港人」意識裏不全然是文化性質的東西,而是包含一定程度的政治性質。筆者在分析「香港人」認同特徵的時候,曾提出該認同的形態已具「準民族主義」的性質。民調中不選擇「中國人」或「既是香港人也是中國人」,而只選擇「香港人」的一群,其本土認同的性質就明顯帶有了政治性。這種政治性不但妨礙了建立身為中華人民共和國國民的新身份認同,甚至還容易發展成政治分離意識。數據顯示回歸後,仍有四分之一香港民眾傾向在政治上與中華人民共和國分離(見表三)。

I wonder where did the [90%] from.
 
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Hong Kong Problem is not something Average Chinese nor Average West would understand.

In short, the Hong Kong people feel they were betrayed by both side.

There are people who would defend the Chinese clause, but there are also people who want to restore British Control. In between, there are people who simply, don't care.

In my time in Hong Kong, i have both seen before and after the turn over (the 1st July 1997) and what people in Hong Kong generally feel is not something normally people would understand.

Hong Kong have no social nor national identity, they don't consider they are part of Chinese (They labeled the Chinese "Mainlander") and try very hard to seperate themselve from the new immigrant forom mainland China or chinese in general, they speak different language (Cantonese/English vs PTH) and they uses different currency than mainland China (HKD vs RMB), the Hong Kogn have their own flag rather than using the Chinese flag alone (Which is special as not even a single Provice of China got its own flag)

On the other hand, Hong Kong People also hate their British master. Theink as they have abandon them and totally rip them off.

The relations is very complex and you cannot find anywhere in the world with this sort of government to government relationship. You can say Hong Kong is a colony of China and you can say it doesn't, the relation is most like Puerto Rican and American, with the only different is Puerto Rican think themselve as American in general although they speak a different language than the American.

The problem lies beneth the surface, very deep believe, as most Hong Kong people do not trust the british as they keep a lot of promise and not even one came true, and they took every available resource back to the UK and leave the Hong Kong people to its faith. However, while hating the British, they also hate the Chinese, thye expect the Chinese to do better but well, in the end, what promised as unchange for 50 years in reality, every faces in Hong Kong have been changed a thousand time when it's not only 20 years has gone.

The fact to the matter is, the love-hate relationship between China and Hong Kong is nothing you ever see in the world, there is a survey done by Ming Pao (A very prominent news paper in Hong Kong) in 2000 asking 5000 ethnic chinese people a few question regarding the nationality of Hong Kong. Which show 95% of Hong Kong resident consider themselve of Hong Kong (Not Chinese nor British) Nationality but when ask if Hong Kong people generally Chinese, they would also say yes.

I don't believe there are voices of independence in Hong Kong, people just don't care about these stuff, as long as they run as a seperate government (although the Hong Kong Government did everything the Chinese People Congress told them to), but what generally worse is Cina keep piping people down to Hong Kong, you would get disapproval of what the Chinese government do, but still as the Chinese trumpp everything and the Head of States of Hong Kong (The Chief Executive) is merely a puppet to China, the Hogn Kong people can't do anything about them.

800px-Flag_of_Hong_Kong.svg.png

600px-Flag_of_Hong_Kong_1959.svg.png

yes,like most southeast asian,some hongkongese don't have pride.In the end,it was simply just a colony of british empire.
 
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This data makes much clear.

90% you said?
I think many hongkongese don't care about the nationality,all they care is their money.in the colonial ages,most hongkongese don't fight against their british ruler like what arabs and muslims have done.they act more like southeast asian.
 
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I think many hongkongese don't care about the nationality,all they care is their money.in the colonial ages,most hongkongese don't fight against their british ruler like what arabs and muslims have done.they act more like southeast asian.

Everyone cares about $$ at the end.

Hong kong should be freed

HK is already freed.
 
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