China Eastern crash appears to be intentional

[Apollon]

@MODS: this racist thinks we are uncivilised and only these europeans are civilised ones. Guys, can you ping the mods and point out why such behaviour has to be tolerated in this forum.

Care to explain why in an autocratic regime it appears Impossible to accept that a suicidal pilot is a possibility?


A 90° nosedive is Impossible for an aircraft to be done without active and deliberate crew doing it. Thats the hard physics

 

[etylo]

What?

Like Yankees also say that the crashes of 737 Max are the faults of the pilots of the countries, these Yankees are proven to be liars so is you on the PDF.

 

[StraightEdge]

Check the post #12. Blatant racist behaviour from Apollon. Posting a screenshot for reference. Don't feed him, he always engages in anti-asian behaviour and targets asian races and treats other races as inferior to europeans. I have reported his post, let's wait for Mod decision.

China Eastern crash appears to be intentional

The China Eastern crash appears to have been intentional. The blackbox data suggest, that the pilot rammed the aircraft into the ground. https://www.forbes.com/sites/madelinehalpert/2022/05/17/black-box-data-reportedly-suggest-china-eastern-jet-crash-was-intentional/ Before some here come...

defence.pk

 

[xuxu1457]

A final investigation report will say mechanical failure, electronic system failure or pilot error.There has never been a conclusion of a flight accident that tells you to kill intentionally.

This sudden mass appearance of news is too purposeful.

 

[MH.Yang]

I like Indians? I think India is one of the worst places on this planet. Your behavior is typical. Throw some dirt on someone and hope something sticks. I find India disgusting in almost evry aspect.

Dont know what it has to do with topic though.



I hate nobody. I find certain countries disgusting but i guess thats not hate.

@MH.Yang talks rubbish though. He wont find a single post of me saying anything positive about India. I find it to be one if worst places.


That said, its a fact the airplane was crashed intentional. What is not known so far is, did the crew do this or did someone get into the Cockpit?



Does it help you if i tell you that i think India is even more repulsive than China for me?


My motto is clear: if its not european, its not good for me. With few excemption. Japan, South Korea and others on that level have my respect. Rest absolute not.

According to your logic, shouldn't you speak for Airbus and the EU?
Why are you trying to copy Indian Posts now?

 

[LeGenD]

Many aircraft crashes were found to be not due to technical fault but due to human factors.

Malaysian Flight 370 loss was due to human factors for instance.

It is not helpful to be egotistical about this matter. People should wait for investigations to conclude, and findings should be respected.

Objective should be to identify true cause of crash and learn from the case.

 

[khansaheeb]

The China Eastern crash appears to have been intentional. The blackbox data suggest, that the pilot rammed the aircraft into the ground.

Black Box Data Reportedly Suggest China Eastern Jet Crash Was Intentional

The Wall Street Journal reported that the data indicates someone in the cockpit pushed the plane into a fatal nosedive, killing all 132 onboard.

www.forbes.com

Before some here come screaming "evil Americans, Boeing ", the chinese officials too say there appear no technical issues on the aircraft, someone in the cockpit brought the aircraft into a nosedive. Similar to the germanwings crash in 2015 where pilot andreas lubitz crashed an a320 into the mountains.

Its crazy when you think about this and how something like this could be prevented. Maybe program the systems to block "steering decissions" that make no sense?


It happens not very often but pilot suicide has occured multiple times.

This crash was on video and shows the machine going down full speed like a rocket.

After watching Discovering channel flight crash investigation series, just because the flight box shows errors doesn't mean there wasn't a technical cause. But we can't put aside the human component aside either. One solution is that after take off the plane should go into auto pilot automatically with codes required from pilot and co-pilot to disengage.

 

[gambit]

I look forward to seeing the PDF Chinese 'explanations' of this mishap especially when none of them have any aviation experience other than being passengers.

 

[MH.Yang]

The plane pulled up before the crash, and the pilot was obviously trying to save the plane. And the pilot called the tower for help.

I look forward to seeing the PDF Chinese 'explanations' of this mishap especially when none of them have any aviation experience other than being passengers.

You're obviously mistaken. Now it's up to Boeing to explain to the Chinese.
Maybe you think China grounded the 737-800 or the Chinese market lost trust in Boeing is just a small thing?

 

[Apollon]

According to your logic, shouldn't you speak for Airbus and the EU?
Why are you trying to copy Indian Posts now?

See, thats difference. In Europe we are pro logic. We had an airbus crash where a pilot did fly the machine into mountains. Facts are facts. Why should Boeing be blamed for a suicidal pilot? An aircraft cant go down in 90° without active pilot decission. Thats the fact.

The plane pulled up before the crash, and the pilot was obviously trying to save the plane. And the pilot called the tower for help.


You're obviously mistaken. Now it's up to Boeing to explain to the Chinese.
Maybe you think China grounded the 737-800 or the Chinese market lost trust in Boeing is just a small thing?

You have the voice recording so we can hear it? Is it on YouTube? Post please

The plane pulled up before the crash, and the pilot was obviously trying to save the plane. And the pilot called the tower for help.


You're obviously mistaken. Now it's up to Boeing to explain to the Chinese.
Maybe you think China grounded the 737-800 or the Chinese market lost trust in Boeing is just a small thing?

In aviation the chinese market is a small thing. Global demand is so gigantic that neither Airbus nor Boeing can fullfill new orders. Look at Qatar which has beef with Airbus and Airbus simply cancelled a 50 billion doller order of them. They now have no way to get aircrafts.


So China is all bluffing.

 

[MH.Yang]

See, thats difference. In Europe we are pro logic. We had an airbus crash where a pilot did fly the machine into mountains. Facts are facts. Why should Boeing be blamed for a suicidal pilot? An aircraft cant go down in 90° without active pilot decission. Thats the fact.



You have the voice recording so we can hear it? Is it on YouTube? Post please



In aviation the chinese market is a small thing. Global demand is so gigantic that neither Airbus nor Boeing can fullfill new orders. Look at Qatar which has beef with Airbus and Airbus simply cancelled a 50 billion doller order of them. They now have no way to get aircrafts.


So China is all bluffing.

The MCAS system of 737-max can cause the aircraft to crash vertically. We can't know whether the 737-800 has a similar problem for the time being.

China's aircraft market is larger than the entire EU market. In recent years, China has purchased more than 500 airliners every year, a market with hundreds of billions of dollars a year. Let me remind you that this market is more than Greece's GDP ($180 billion).

The Chinese market can almost determine the prosperity and decline of Boeing and Airbus, which is why CAAC grounding 737-max will lead to Boeing's dilemma.

After China took the lead in grounding 737-max, banning Google and punishing marvel, if you still think China is just bluffing, then I have a higher understanding of your stupidity and self-assembly.

 

[Apollon]

The MCAS system of 737-max can cause the aircraft to crash vertically. We can't know whether the 737-800 has a similar problem for the time being.

China's aircraft market is larger than the entire EU market. In recent years, China has purchased more than 500 airliners every year, a market with hundreds of billions of dollars a year. Let me remind you that this market is more than Greece's GDP ($180 billion).

The Chinese market can almost determine the prosperity and decline of Boeing and Airbus, which is why CAAC grounding 737-max will lead to Boeing's dilemma.

After China took the lead in grounding 737-max, banning Google and punishing marvel, if you still think China is just bluffing, then I have a higher understanding of your stupidity and self-assembly.

737-800 has no MCAS nor any similar system. It operates since decades.


Go on ban Boeing and then? You have no alternative. Airbus has no capacity to take more contracts. Its that simple.


Just hot air as usual.


How did google ban in China affect Google? Last time i checked more profitable than ever.


I think you missed the part where more and more western companies simply dont care. Australia is a good example for that. China simply isnt worth it.

 

[AViet]

The China Eastern crash appears to have been intentional. The blackbox data suggest, that the pilot rammed the aircraft into the ground.

Black Box Data Reportedly Suggest China Eastern Jet Crash Was Intentional

The Wall Street Journal reported that the data indicates someone in the cockpit pushed the plane into a fatal nosedive, killing all 132 onboard.

www.forbes.com

Before some here come screaming "evil Americans, Boeing ", the chinese officials too say there appear no technical issues on the aircraft, someone in the cockpit brought the aircraft into a nosedive. Similar to the germanwings crash in 2015 where pilot andreas lubitz crashed an a320 into the mountains.

Its crazy when you think about this and how something like this could be prevented. Maybe program the systems to block "steering decissions" that make no sense?


It happens not very often but pilot suicide has occured multiple times.

This crash was on video and shows the machine going down full speed like a rocket.

Nowadays, even a storm in the US is likely caused by China, so would anyone be surprised with such a conclusion from an US "independent" investigation?

In the meantime, quality of Boeing products are in decline. It is a fact. And such a conclusion just reinforce the worry of customers.

Same with the investigation results for B737 MAX first accident, as they concluded the accident was caused by the fault of pilot. Only after the second accident did Boeing accept it was the fault of engineering design.

 

[Apollon]

Nowadays, even a storm in the US is likely caused by China, so would anyone be surprised with such a conclusion from an US "independent" investigation?

In the meantime, quality of Boeing products are in decline. It is a fact. And such a conclusion just reinforce the worry of customers.

737-800 is decades old.

 

[AViet]

737-800 is decades old.

I believe the plane in China accident is quite new. The engineering design might be proven though.