China Civil Aviation, AVIC (MA600) & COMAC (ARJ21/C919/C929)

[Deino]

The MLG has only been delivered now !???

Liebherr liefert erstes Fahrwerk für Comac C919 | FLUG REVUE

 

[Beast]

The MLG has only been delivered now !???

Liebherr liefert erstes Fahrwerk für Comac C919 | FLUG REVUE


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14th July 2015, see the date at BG. Now is august 24th 2015. The date is quite same as LEAP engine being delivered.

I do forsee end of 2015 for first flight is quite realistic. Even they miss end of year, early of 2016 for first flight is still consider good. Just like how Y-20 timeline is..

 

[Beast]

Comac engages backup suppliers to prevent C919 delays - 8/25/2015 - Flight Global

Comac is using a dual supplier system to manufacture critical and potentially challenging parts of the C919 airframe, to ensure quality control and to prevent any major delays to the programme.

These include the aircraft's aft fuselage as well as its vertical and horizontal stabilisers, all of which are made of composites, Comac's chief engineer Jiang Liping tells Flightglobal in an interview inShanghai.

She explains that Chinese suppliers are unfamiliar with the use of composites and that the airframer's concern is that the quality and strength of the parts produced by one supplier may not match the required standards.

An example is how the first aft fuselage delivered by Shenyang Aircraft Corporation had to be strengthened.

Comac also engaged two suppliers to build the C919's centre wingbox and mid fuselage due to anticipated complexities in the wing-to-body join of the aircraft.

"We do this so that we have a backup... the costs will go up but this is for quality control and also to ensure that the the programme's timeline is under control," says Jiang.

She adds, however, that Comac has stuck to the main suppliers thus far, since the manufactured parts have generally met standards.

Comac has largely completed the final assembly of the first flight test aircraft for the C919 programme, and is working towards a year-end roll-out followed by first flight in 2016.

 

[Deino]

A similar report ...

PICTURES: Comac confident of year-end roll-out for C919 - 8/25/2015 - Flight Global

PICTURES: Comac confident of year-end roll-out for C919

Comac says C919 suppliers are due to deliver all systems of the first aircraft by October, allowing the aircraft to be rolled out by the end of 2015.
Speaking to Flightglobal at Comac’s final assembly centre near Shanghai’s Pudong International airport, chief engineer Jiang Liping says assembly of the airframe is largely complete, and that installations of harnesses, cables and pipes has started.
The Chinese airframer has also taken delivery of its first CFM International Leap-1C engine, as well as the Liebherr landing gear. The aircraft's second powerplant is due to in September.
After roll-out, aircraft 101 needs to undergo a series of pre-flight preparations, including engine tests, lightning tests and taxi tests before it can make its first flight.
Under the best circumstances, pre-flight preparation could be completed within four months following roll-out, says Jiang. This means that the C919 could make its first flight around April or May of 2016.

When Flightglobal visited the manufacturer's sub-assembly hangar, aircraft 101 was resting on struts with its wing-to-body join completed. Comac had removed the aircraft's tail cone, as well as its vertical and horizontal stabilisers as it had to strengthen the composite aft-fuselage, says Jiang. The aircraft's windows have also been replaced with smaller standard-size ones, after the manufacturer discovered that its original larger windows affect the strength of the fuselage.
The aircraft's radome as well as the winglets have not been attached. Jiang says the airframe will move to the final assembly hangar next month, where its engines will be attached and systems installed.
Next month, Comac will also start final assembly of aircraft 102 as well as a static strength test aircraft. The mid-fuselage of aircraft 102 has already been delivered, with other sections of the fuselage due to arrive by the end of the month.

 

[Beast]

Talking abt ARJ-21 ready to enter service next month. ARJ-21 is like a brother to C919, paving way for C919 to succeed.

 

[Keel]

Talking abt ARJ-21 ready to enter service next month. ARJ-21 is like a brother to C919, paving way for C919 to succeed.

It says November though a month's difference may not be a big deal

Comac working toward November ARJ21 delivery

 

[Deino]

Finally on its own feet ...

 

[Keel]

ARJ21 aircraft manufacturing and final assembly personnel ride on aircraft to experience flight


Last Updated (Beijing Time):2015-08-27 Source:News Center of COMAC
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ARJ21 aircraft manufacturing and final assembly personnel rode on aircraft to experience flight on August 25th, 2015.



ARJ21 aircraft flew on the course between Chengdu and Fuzhou to conduct demonstration flight on August 25th, 2015. Over 50 manufacturing and final assembly personnel from COMAC Shanghai Aircraft Manufacturing Co., Ltd. rode on the aircraft to experience flight as passengers.

ARJ21 AC105 took off from Chengdu Shuangliu Airport at 10:22 a.m. on the day, and landed at Fuzhou Changle Airport at 12:41.

"It's amazing to ride on the aircraft made by ourselves!" The manufacturing and final assembly personnel said they would control the quality strictly and make sure every ARJ21 aircraft delivered is safe and reliable.

In the near term, ARJ21 aircraft would continue to take Chengdu as the base to simulate the course operation among airports in Wuhan, Wenzhou, Nanjing, etc.

A group photo with ARJ21 aircraft assembled with our own hands taken on August 25th, 2015.

 

[kuge]

http://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/...to-chinese-jetmaker-in.html?ana=yahoo&ref=yfp
A non-Chinese airline will replace its Boeing (NYSE: BA) jets with Chinese-built jetliners, an ominous sign for a U.S. company that sees China as its largest single future market.

Thailand-based City Airways, a small-but-growing regional airline based in Bangkok, this week signed a deal for 10 Chinese-built C919s to replaced the two leased 737-400s it now operates.

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The company also ordered 10 ARJ21 regional jets. Both are built by the Commercial Aircraft Corporation of China, or COMAC, a government-funded company that is working to become an active competitor in the commercial market.


Richard Galanti
United Way of King County

Katie Donnelly
Seattle Foundation

Scott Gode
Unify Square
See More People on the Move
The sale is of particular significance in the Puget Sound region because the Chinese designed the single-aisle C919 aircraft to directly compete with Boeing’s 737 series and Airbus’ A320 series. Boeing makes the 737s exclusively in Renton.

While the repeatedly delayed C919 won’t be as advanced aerodynamically or electronically as Boeing's or Airbus' planes, it will be powered by similar engines. And City Airways probably got a killer discount because the government-supported Chinese manufacturer intensely wants to enter the global market, so short-term profit is not a concern.

In addition, with Boeing and Airbus both working on eight-year backlogs, City may get its C919s sooner from COMAC than it could have from the two larger companies.

COMAC is in the final stages of building its first C919, which is set to fly early next year.

“This order, outside of China, indicates that COMAC will be aggressive internationally, and will focus on Southeast Asian markets as the company moves internationally,” wrote Addison Schonland, partner at AirInsightconsultancy, this week. “While Boeing and Airbus have not considered COMAC a major threat in the short-term, they recognize the long-term potential for aircraft production in China.”



COMAC claims 507 orders for the 156-passenger C919, 96 percent them from Chinese airlines.

Boeing has 4,269 unfilled orders for 737s, and Boeing Vice President of Marketing Randy Tinseth said Tuesday, during a speech before Seattle business leaders, that a third of those are going to China.

 

[cirr]

The Lark

 

[Bussard Ramjet]

The Lark

What is this?

 

[BoQ77]

its too small to be an air refueler

It's not too small compare to current air tankers of PLAAF, the Xian H-6U

 

[somebozo]

Who was Boeing's first engineer and first chief engineer ?

Wong Tsu - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Wouldnt be wrong to say that Communism turned china into a dole of sh1t?
Because many of the early engineers in global aviation, rocket science and even nuclear were Chinese..

Can you explain that further? Electronics are slow? Airplane is flimsy?

With more than 1000 aircraft built, you need to provide concrete evidence to support your notion that the plane is flimsy.

They have maintenance issues, at least the ERJ-175 versions.
Electronics are slow as hell, and the aircraft is quite flimsy. I'll leave at that.

It is better than some of the Boeing crap i have flown in...Embrarer and Air Bus makes the best small air craft..Boeing small aircrafts are very shaky on take off and landing..

 

[BoQ77]

By the way I'm indeed surprised that the C919 is build using a different method in comparison to the A320 even if they manufacture themself. So far it is more or less an empty shell without any mayou systems installed prior to final assembly ...

Any images lately ??

Deino

I think it's not the best way, but the workable way for first time assembly of the shell.
When they master the overall assembly, they would integrate the electronic and wire... at the same time.

 

[cirr]

The Lark

What is this?

It is a concept prototype of the next generation regional jetliner that has been under development for a few years to replace the ARJ-21 in the future.