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[Ammyy]

prove it !!!!!


Maybe they are NOT???

If MKI is better than J-10B then why buy Rafale?

If Rafale is better than J-10B then why fund T-50???


If T-50 is " better " than J-20?? LOL, NAH, there is no if. T-50 is infeorior to J-20, every1 knows it !!!

You cant even prove about engine of J10b and want proof for MKIs .. Awesome

 

[Zabaniyah]

If MKI is better than J-10B then why buy Rafale?

The MKI is a heavy-class fighter intended for air superiority.

Rafale is a medium-class multi-role fighter.

Big difference!!

If Rafale is better than J-10B then why fund T-50???

The T-50 is a 5th generation plane. Rafale is 4.5G.

If T-50 is " better " than J-20?? LOL, NAH, there is no if. T-50 is infeorior to J-20, every1 knows it !!!

I am not sure why people jump into conclusions over the J-20.

I mean, we don't know the technical specs of the J-20. Hell, we don't even know if it is a production prototype or a working prototype.

Almost too little is known about the J-20. All we have to discuss about is um...pictures

The T-50 on the other hand is also in prototype stages while at the same time we are seeing the F-22 Raptor flying high...

I'd say, both have a long way to go to match up against the US. We'll see

 

[DARKY]

According to the reality!!!!

1. J-20 is currently under development.
2. J-10B is already in mass production!
3. It is already being confirmed that there is another 5th gen stealth fighter under developement at SAC, will first fly later this year.



Now, after all, what are you??

Some indians living in a world of denial?? In a world of dream land? In a world of ENVY??

We know they are making Alien UFOs.. and Death stars and Inter galactic cruisers but until then.. let us and the whole world live in denial/dreamland/ENVY.

 

[Akasa]

According to who ?... you ?...

That's expected... after all you are a chin.

According to the parameters of the J-10B, J-15, J-11B, J-20?

But of course, you would ignore everything and pretend they don't exist.

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Maybe because they are?

In what aspect, appearance?

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You cant even prove about engine of J10b and want proof for MKIs .. Awesome

Here, proof of J-10B engine:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Cl4V4ctJD...bofan+Engines+in+J-10B+Fighter+Je+%283%29.jpg

Now let's hear the proof of the Su-30MKI, oh wait, you have none.

 

[nomi007]

So PLAAF now wants Russian Su-35 fighters.
This means Chinese 4.5 gen fighter jet projects have failed.

what non-sense
why you are buying rafael its meansu-30mki has been failed?

 

[帅的一匹]

Why India don't induct SU-35?

 

[Zabaniyah]

Guys, this is also reported on Flightglobal:

China requests Sukhoi Su-35 fighter buy

China has asked Russia to supply it with Sukhoi Su-35 fighters and Almaz-Antei S-400 Triumph long-range air defence systems.

The Rossiyskaya Gazeta newspaper quoted Alexander Fomin, deputy head of Russia's Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation, as saying that Beijing filed requests for the equipment last year. "The Russian side is considering these applications," he said.

Fomin refused to specify how many fighters China is seeking to buy. Last year it cancelled an order for a second batch of 95 Su-27s for local assembly, after Shenyang launched series production of its comparable J-11 design. Four Su-35s have so far been delivered to the Russian air force to support trials activities, with the type expected to enter frontline use in 2013.

China has previously acquired S-300PMU2 "Favorit" air defence systems from Russia, and hopes to field next-generation S-400 surface-to-air missiles from 2015.

Source: China requests Sukhoi Su-35 fighter buy

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Why India don't induct SU-35?

That's because they already have the MKI with Western avionics backed with the IAI Phalcon.

 

[retaxis]

China will be ruined RUIIIIINNNEED without those SU-35s what will we do? We might as well start by eating grass ruiined i tell you.

 

[Secur]

I am not buying this ... Why would China need another 4th Gen Fighter ? ... Or is this another of the Russian propaganda ( just like the carrier arresters earlier ) ?

 

[Akasa]

What parameters ?... Oh.. I know the Chin paint job...

What parameters exactly ?
Got any ?... do you ?.... or that same underdevelopment and defense forum insider BS.

The paint job includes composites and radar absorbent material. And then we have the AESA, the MAW, the IRST, the upgraded engines, new cockpit. Pretty much what you see in the Su-35 and Rafale itself.

What proof Do you want ?.... you can see what's available for your self and what needs to be seen.... all round a far better air-craft than what ever China field as of now and would in 10 years.

Better in what exactly? Target practice for the enemy? Because with the current state of its upgrades and systems, that's what it will be best at.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

You always say can but u can never do
We know how to stop water to Pakistan and Bangladesh and fulfill our needs if u do any such suicidal action and lol u are thinking of dehydrating us

Sure we can, we're just wait to use as bargain against South Tibet...The water valve can be tighten any time, remember this water on China's side is China property...we can do what ever we want.

and u lost to mongols,manchus,and japanese
see ur mirror before u look into others

Yes, half of Mongol is part of China..Manchu is part of China..manchuirans and Inner Mongolians are our brothers and sisters...you have prove nothing...as for Japaneses...they got nuked as rewards...someone revenge for us and we have clean hands...isn't that wonderfull.

 

[DARKY]

The paint job includes composites and radar absorbent material. And then we have the AESA, the MAW, the IRST, the upgraded engines, new cockpit. Pretty much what you see in the Su-35 and Rafale itself.

Any credible source to prove the claims or Its the same old poster BS... What's the power rating of AESA on J-11/J-10 and module count ?.... Does it have standoff jamming capability like Su30MKI ?... If yes.. what jammers used ?...

Won't ask about the engine part since your own pilot said about it not long time back.....

Better in what exactly? Target practice for the enemy? Because with the current state of its upgrades and systems, that's what it will be best at.

Try targeting an aircraft with superior engine, avionics, Electronics, Jammers, weaponry, Kinematics performance, and far-better pilots... and that's at current stage... not talking of upgrades of which the 1st batch would start arriving by year end... or early next year.

 

[Akasa]

Any credible source to prove the claims or Its the same old poster BS... What's the power rating of AESA on J-11/J-10 and module count ?.... Does it have standoff jamming capability like Su30MKI ?... If yes.. what jammers used ?...

Won't ask about the engine part since your own pilot said about it not long time back.....

How about CAC employees. As far as I know the stuff they released are far more accurate than any Western source or other Chinese sources so far. The AESA on the J-11B are greater than 1200 modules although we do not know the number. The individual modules allow the J-11B's radar to jam, a portion of the modules can be allotted for that. Seeing how the J-11B has more powerful powerplants, the power rating of the AESA is dependent on its platform, not the AESA itself.

I can show you pictures of the J-11Bs with WS-10 engines. And as far as I know no pilot ever mentioned it.

Try targeting an aircraft with superior engine, avionics, Electronics, Jammers, weaponry, Kinematics performance, and far-better pilots... and that's at current stage... not talking of upgrades of which the 1st batch would start arriving by year end... or early next year.

Superior engine? In what? Lower thrust? Avionics? The Su-30MKI's and Rafale's radar have a lower channel count than the J-11B, and with the J-11B employing more powerful powerplants, I expect its power rating to be higher as well. Jammers, as far as I know, are integrated separately int he Su-30MKI and with a smaller radar I don't know how you arrived at the theory that the Rafale will have better jammers. And have you seen PLAAF pilots? If not, then you have no basis for that theory. Kinematic performance will be in J-11B's favor simply due to more powerful engines and a lighter airframe.

 

[NirmalKrish]

what non-sense
why you are buying rafael its meansu-30mki has been failed?

What logic your an epic fail like your counterparts on this thread.

 

[Hello_10]

China hopes to acquire new Russian S-400 Triumph air defense system by 2015, but only the question of delivery of Su-35 fighters to this country is being discussed at the moment, Rossiyskaya Gazeta reports.

"The Chinese party has shown interest in acquisition of a number of Su-35 jets and submitted a proposal to us in 2011. At present this problem is being elaborated by the designated institution of Russia", - said the First Deputy Director General of Federal Service of Military-Technical Cooperation, Alexander Fomin.

Speaking of prospects of air defense systems deliveries to China, Fomin has reminded that during a period from 1993 to 2010 a large number of Russian air defense missile systems, including S-300PMU2 “Favorit”, have been delivered to China.

"As for further cooperation with China in the area of air defense, at present the Chinese partners are showing interest in acquisition of next-generation S-400 Triumph air defense systems. They want to acquire the first batch in 2015", - Fomin said.

According to Fomin, the prospects of deliveries of S-400 Triumph air defense systems to China may be defined in proportion to deliveries of these systems to the Russian armed forces.

"At present the construction of additional capacities for production of S-400 Triumph air defense systems is being carried out. China has not shown interest in acquisition of other Russian air defense systems yet", - Fomin said.

Russia will deliver Su-35 fighters and Triumph air defense systems to China

Only enemies of enemy can be defined as the best friends. Russia knows, Russia or mainly many other developing countries can live peacefully only until China is capable enough to engage US/West. and longer China is capable enough to resist US/ West, better it is for those countries who are always threatened with the policy makers of US/ West. days of Western superiority is numbered and they are worried of this dramatic change. western aggression/ their efforts to take over the whole world one by one before the world may get completely changed, can’t be resisted without a powerful China. Hence, whatever help China needs for doing this, would be given to them