Chengdu J-20 5th Generation Aircraft News & Discussions

[Asoka]

It just say J20 can reach Guam, doesn't mean China will use J20 to attack Guam. It's a tactical problem.

The DF-26 missiles can reach Guam, no problemeno. We are not looking to attack anybody, just making sure no one can attack us with immunity.

I am not expert but curious to know that is there any ram coatings on j20 displayed in recent Chinese air show?

Yes, fore sure. The structural materials could also be radar absorbing, not just the coating.

Where did you pull that gem from?

Just a plain silly claim.

http://breakingdefense.com/2014/06/...he-f-35-no-growlers-needed-when-war-starts/3/
But stealth is not invisibility, especially for fighters that must have tails for maneuverability (rather than the B-2 stealth bomber’s tailless “flying wing” design). Both F-22s and F-35s will be spotted at range by low frequency radar. The F-35’s cross section is much smaller than the F-22’s, but that does not mean, Hostage concedes, that the F-35 is necessarily superior to the F-22 when we go to war. In fact, Hostage says that it takes eight F-35s to do what two F-22s can handle.

“The F-35 is geared to go out and take down the surface targets,” says Hostage, leaning forward. “The F-35 doesn’t have the altitude, doesn’t have the speed [of the F-22], but it can beat the F-22 in stealth.” But stealth — the ability to elude or greatly complicate an enemy’s ability to find and destroy an aircraft using a combination of design, tactics and technology — is not a magic pill, Hostage reminds us.

It's very important to research and read rather than smashing your heads on your keyboards the minute you're on a forum.



The F-22 can't attack from Guam and the Chinese cannot attack Guam with the J-20. That means both aircraft are tactically irrelevant in this scenario. So bringing up the F-22's range 'deficiency' was pointless.

China is not threatening to attack US everyday. US has bombed more than 10 countries and killed over 2 millions people around the world in O'Bomber's terms.

Any chance of mid air refueling ? I know the refueling tanker might be detected so chances are less.

This is a must for modern fighters and bombers. An oil tanker can be built from a stealth drone or stealth bomber, so they can accompany the strike force closer to the combat zone.

Dude your constant cries for English won't change a thing, get used to it man. You are at the mercy whether Chinese will take the time to translate Chinese articles or pieces of it into English so you have things to write for your books. Mr so called Chinese military expert

New stealth tankers.

https://www.navytimes.com/articles/cno-new-stingray-drone-will-be-a-tanker

In addition to its own fuel, that drone could probably carry another 8-10 tons of fuel, enough to refill one plane's full tank. Not a bad idea for a oil tanker. But stealth will not work for AWAC. The AWAC need to turn on its powerful AESA radar to direct other planes, and that will give away its presence instantly.

 

[ahojunk]

Friendly reminder to all:-

If you post a long article in Chinese, can you also put in a summary in English.

(Thanks to @kuge for doing that, very much appreciated).

 

[grey boy 2]

This maybe the drop tanks that J-20 has been using, the same for FC-31 V2 (2400L extra L one)
根据中航工业鹘鹰2.0的2400L油箱宣传视频CG图 那个2400L油箱与歼20的油箱一模一样
另外歼20作为重型机其外挂油箱不会比中型机的鹘鹰低
所以保守估计这4个是2400L超大油箱。

 

[Asoka]

This maybe the drop tanks that J-20 has been using, the same for FC-31 V2 (2400L extra L one)
根据中航工业鹘鹰2.0的2400L油箱宣传视频CG图 那个2400L油箱与歼20的油箱一模一样
另外歼20作为重型机其外挂油箱不会比中型机的鹘鹰低
所以保守估计这4个是2400L超大油箱。

It's about the same size of F-22's drop tanks, which weights 4000lb each, or around 2400L.

 

[Asoka]

A comparison of J-20 with Rafael with drop tanks.

And with F-22's drop tanks. They are about the same size. J-20's tank seems slightly larger.

 

[Asoka]

The substantial length difference between J-20 and F-22.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Of course, the J-20 has significantly greater maximum takeoff weight than the F-22.

Wikipedia's figures are simply unreliable as anyone could edit it.

 

[Asoka]

The J-20 is enormous when compared to J-10, which is not really a small plane.

 

[Asoka]

Another comparison of J-20 and F-22.

 

[Deino]

@Asok .. please these badly made copy&paste imges are off !

They simply look like a random found collection of "two aircrafts are mating" ... but their size comparison is based on what ?? The size of the weapons bay, the size of the canopy, pure guesswork.

IMO it is well known that the F-22 is smaller, but in this way these are not very helpful esp. since they contradict: in one the span is the same, in another the canopy, in the third the bays ...

 

[grey boy 2]

Close up pictures of J-20, even the cockpit was visible
比美军更帅气！独家曝光歼20战机座舱高清细节

 

[Deino]

A J-20A spotted over Hailar in northeastern Inner Mongolia, China. ...

 

[cirr]

A J-20A spotted over Hailar in northeastern Inner Mongolia, China. ...

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[Deino]

By the way concerning these HD-cockpit-section images, do we know what type of EJ-seat the J-20 uses ?

 

[Deino]

https://twitter.com/x/status/814099216934936576