Chengdu J-20 5th Generation Aircraft News & Discussions

[Ultima Thule]

"J-20 as an air-to-air fighter with an emphasis on forward stealth, high-speed aerodynamics, range, and adequate agility."

LOL. Like F-22 has "adequate agility". or like Bill Gates has "adequate wealth". Some foolish people still think J-20 is "underpowered" and only has "adequate agility" and no so good stealth and no networking capability, and poor sensory and will stop production at 200 units.

they live in there fantasy world bro

 

[Asoka]

http://www.fyjs.cn/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=1849692&extra=page=1&_dsign=0ccab1bf

This report has indicated China now has two pulse production lines for J-20.

In August 19, two Chinese J-20 pulse production lines commenced operation, The production line has five stations, each station will take 8-9 days to finish its share of works. From start to finish, it will take 45 days to finish a plane, making it's annual capacity of 36 planes per year, or 72 planes for both production lines.

"8月19日，中航工业成飞总装厂举行“飞机总装站位式生产启动仪式”，标志着成飞总体装配进入了一个新模式。"

"每一个站位的装配节点8到9天，用45天左右的时间完成一架军机的装配，达到交付状态。'

Once the factory start production in full speed, every 4-5 days, there will be a new J-20 rolling off the production lines. In contrast, the F-35 factory could produce one plane per day.

 

[Asoka]

Another report from << China Aviation >> has indicated China has increased the J-20 production lines from 2 to 3. This enables 3 planes to roll off the assembly lines at the same time.

《中國航空報》的報道做進一步推測，殲-20生產線很可能已由原來的2條增加到3條，一批次的產量隨之提高到3架。"

 

[Akasa]

http://www.fyjs.cn/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=1849692&extra=page=1&_dsign=0ccab1bf

This report has indicated China now has two pulse production lines for J-20.

In August 19, two Chinese J-20 pulse production lines commenced operation, The production line has five stations, each station will take 8-9 days to finish its share of works. From start to finish, it will take 45 days to finish a plane, making it's annual capacity of 36 planes per year, or 72 planes for both production lines.

"8月19日，中航工业成飞总装厂举行“飞机总装站位式生产启动仪式”，标志着成飞总体装配进入了一个新模式。"

"每一个站位的装配节点8到9天，用45天左右的时间完成一架军机的装配，达到交付状态。'

Once the factory start production in full speed, every 4-5 days, there will be a new J-20 rolling off the production lines. In contrast, the F-35 factory could produce one plane per day.

The poster mentioned something about the FC-31. Could you summarize what was it that he/she wrote?

Thanks. (Text regarding FC-31 is at bottom of the post.)

 

[Asoka]

The poster mentioned something about the FC-31. Could you summarize what was it that he/she wrote?

Thanks. (Text regarding FC-31 is at bottom of the post.)

"如果再加2条，5 6天出一架改进型歼20。画面不敢看。。。
看来FC31只能外卖了。"

It simply says if every 5 or 6 days there will be a new J-20, FC-31 can only be exported. FC-31 is a joke in the minds of Chinese fans. Only God knows what was Shengyan Aviation thinking when it produced this junk. I predict no one will buy it. Total garbage. Worse than F-35. At least F-35 has a very powerful engine and world class avionics and AESA radar.

 

[Akasa]

"如果再加2条，5 6天出一架改进型歼20。画面不敢看。。。
看来FC31只能外卖了。"

It simply says if every 5 or 6 days there will be a new J-20, FC-31 can only be exported. FC-31 is a joke in the minds of Chinese fans. Only God knows what was Shengyan Aviation thinking when it produced this junk. I predict no one will buy it. Total garbage. Worse than F-35. At least F-35 has a very powerful engine and world class avionics and AESA radar.

Before anyone brushes the FC-31 off, I'd imagine that PLAAF/PLANAF would at least take a look at the V2 prototype or give it a few test flights. Given the information released so far, it seems like a potent low-cost alternative to the F-35.

 

[Asoka]

Before anyone brushes the FC-31 off, I'd imagine that PLAAF/PLANAF would at least take a look at the V2 prototype or give it a few test flights. Given the information released so far, it seems like a potent low-cost alternative to the F-35.

"a potent low-cost alternative " LOL. It's a junky little plane like the Japanese Shinshen. There is not one distinguished feature about it. It's at the same level of technology as the LCA. The "Stealth" is completely a marketing trip without the other 3S. Those idiots at Shengyan are wasting Taxpayers' money.

 

[Akasa]

"a potent low-cost alternative " LOL. It's a junky little plane like the Japanese Shinshen. There is not one distinguished feature about it. It's at the same level of technology as the LCA. The "Stealth" is completely a marketing trip without the other 3S. Those idiots at Shengyan are wasting Taxpayers' money.

Not sure where you are pulling those comparisons from.

The Shinshin is a technology demonstrator, not a fully-fledged prototype (or even a precursor like the X-35/YF-22). Its mission is to validate Mitsubishi's grasp of VLO airframe design, RAM, and perhaps TVC technologies with its engine. What really takes the cake would be the F-3, the follow-on Japanese aircraft that would have roots in the Shinshin.

As for comparing the FC-31 to the LCA... I'll simply assume that you were being hyperbolic and leave it at that.

 

[Asoka]

Not sure where you are pulling those comparisons from.

The Shinshin is a technology demonstrator, not a fully-fledged prototype (or even a precursor like the X-35/YF-22). Its mission is to validate Mitsubishi's grasp of VLO airframe design, RAM, and perhaps TVC technologies with its engine. What really takes the cake would be the F-3, the follow-on Japanese aircraft that would have roots in the Shinshin.

As for comparing the FC-31 to the LCA... I'll simply assume that you were being hyperbolic and leave it at that.

Well, that's true "Shinshin is a technology demonstrator", and FC-31 is not even demonstrator of any new technology. It's fishing plane, 钓鱼机. Hoping to wheel in a sucker with big money. Hope Pakistanis don't fall for it. They are our loyal friends. They don't deserve this trash.

Any way, we are off topic on this thread.

 

[Akasa]

Well, that's true "Shinshin is a technology demonstrator", and FC-31 is not even demonstrator of any new technology. It's fishing plane, 钓鱼机. Hoping to wheel in a sucker with big money. Hope Pakistanis don't fall for it. They are our loyal friends.

Any way, we are off topic on this thread.

And on what technical basis are you claiming the above?

 

[Asoka]

And on what technical basis are you claiming the above?

Well, what new technology or great selling point does FC-31 has?

 

[Akasa]

Well, what new technology or great selling point does FC-31 has?

It doesn't need novel gadgets to be a good export or PLA(N)AF candidate. If it can more or less come close to the F-35 in terms of performance, or offer a lower price, its prospects would be decent. If the rumors regarding its AESA radar, airframe enhancements, sensors, and engine upgrades are true, the chances of that happening is quite high.

Countries in the ME would be particularly interested given Israel's induction of the F-35 Adir. RSAF and PAF officers were allegedly quite interested in the program during the 2016 Zhuhai Airshow recently.

 

[randomradio]

I'm actually looking forward to the J-10 replacement.

 

[Asoka]

I'm actually looking forward to the J-10 replacement.

There probably won't be one. The J-10 has outstanding maneuverability. It's probably the best it can be in 3rd generation fighter. After that, it's probably just 5th and 6th generation fighters controlling their drones, which could act as throw away armory carrying extra missiles..

 

[grey boy 2]

Is this a J-20 thread anymore, looks like i'm on a wrong thread, thanks to our usual suspect "sinosoldier"
I request our Chinese bro not to fall for the faker's trap, thankyou