Chengdu J-10 Multirole Fighter Air Craft News & Discussions

[siegecrossbow]

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@Deino Valentine’s Day present from the city of Shantou.

 

[Path-Finder]

I wonder if we should make a J-10C thread on PAF section too?
@Windjammer @waz @Zarvan

lala what are you saying?

 

[LKJ86]

J-10's documentary mainly made in 2013

 

[Ali_Baba]

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What is the point of posting such a poor quality image? What is new or unique that warrants this poor quality?

 

[siegecrossbow]

What is the point of posting such a poor quality image? What is new or unique that warrants this poor quality?

WS-10 equipped J-10C replace J-7s in Shantou.

 

[Dil Pakistan]

Are these "boys" coming to PAF?

 

[LKJ86]

J-10A and J-10S

 

[Deino]

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@Deino Valentine’s Day present from the city of Shantou.

Indeed, simply WOW ... this would solve in fact even two mysteries! First the it could confirm the former 9th Air Division, 25th Air Regiment at Shantou Northeast is still active as the 25th Air Brigade and it would finally reveal the first operational J-10C unit flying J-10C with WS-10B engines. This unit formerly flew J-7E.



PS: If it is correct what he says, then this brigade is now subordinated to the Eastern TC and no longer the STC

"情人节，给你们送个大礼[礼物]东部某航空兵旅换装10C实锤！[拳头][给力]传说已久，终于证实……至于哪个旅，大家应该想得到[嘻嘻] 注意图二发动机 "

Can anyone confirm?

 

[kungfugymnast]

@kungfugymnast if you are specifically talking about J-10CE in Pakistan context then you are slightly wrong we do not need an aircraft with 8 A2A missiles load out [4-6 BVR and 2-4 WVR missiles] what we need is an multi role fighter which should be more orientated towards the Strike Role so IMHO any aircraft with 2+2 A2A missiles with capability to carry +4 stand-off striking weapons will be suitable for our arising need to replace Mirage-III/V jets in PAF which lacks BVR capability which PAF use in strike role

So J-10C 'partially' fulfil our needs in its current configuration even without any enhancement with TVC engine or capability to carry additional BVRs.

I hope this will end the unnecessary argument between you and @Deino about tweaking or modifying J-10 for export in reference of Pakistan Air Force.

Able to carry 6-8 air to air missiles doesn't mean it can't carry air to ground missiles and bombs. It can still carry blue arrow missiles or 500-700lb bombs on double or triple racks, single large air to ground missiles or 1000lb bombs. Don't jump to conclusion before you see the actual J-10CE caters for export market preference.

 

[Deino]

Able to carry 6-8 air to air missiles doesn't mean it can't carry air to ground missiles and bombs. It can still carry blue arrow missiles or 500-700lb bombs on double or triple racks, single large air to ground missiles or 1000lb bombs. Don't jump to conclusion before you see the actual J-10CE caters for export market preference.

No, it cannot at least not in the current form since the blue arrow missiles are nor certified and even less how shall a J-10 carry additional "500-700lb bombs on double or triple racks, single large air to ground missiles or 1000lb bombs" when it already carries 6-8 AAMS and the always mounted external fuel tanks??

So again it is only you against anything we've seen and expect to see, who jumps "to conclusion".

 

[kungfugymnast]

No, it cannot at least not in the current form since the blue arrow missiles are nor certified and even less how shall a J-10 carry additional "500-700lb bombs on double or triple racks, single large air to ground missiles or 1000lb bombs" when it already carries 6-8 AAMS and the always mounted external fuel tanks??

So again it is only you against anything we've seen and expect to see, who jumps "to conclusion".

I suggest we all wait and see how is the CAIC marketing end up with the J-10CE configuration offer to PAF. If J-10CE flying air to ground sorties, it sure won't carry 8 air to air missiles. PAF suddenly asking for J-10CE probably response to IAF purchase of Rafale & upcoming US fighters.

US is pushing for new fighters sales to IAF recently. F/A-18E/F for navy on ski ramp take off and F-15EX for air force. The Super Hornets & F-15EX pose far more serious threats compared to Rafales. US fighters and weapons are always superior than French.

 

[LKJ86]

J10C0418

 

[Deino]

Interesting, since based on these images we have cn. 0418 with AL-31FN, 0419 without the exhaust visible and we have 042x - unfortunately the x isn't visible - as the first with WS-10B.
Seems as if the first half of batch 4 is using AL-31FN and the second half switched to the WS-10B.

Since cn. 0440 was the highest number seen I would assume, the change was from exactly with half of batch 4.

 

[LKJ86]

J-10A and J-10S

 

[LKJ86]

J-10C

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