Changing Colonial era Names (Philippines, Indonesia)

[Battle of Bach Dang River]

The Philippines also claims the Spratly Islands including Taiping island (itu aba).

That's why you want to change the name of their country?

 

[Wholegrain]

The Pinoys are too anglicanized to change their country's name. Just look at their own names -Spanish.

The psychics of the Pinoys leans more towards the west than towards the east. Could be because the majority are Catholics as opposed to Indonesians Muslims which are middle-eastern.

Alot of Filipinos use both Spanish first and Spanish surnames, others use Spanish first names with native surnames. I agree with you about the westernized culture, they are more Americanized than any other asian country since they were ruled by America for decades and America pretty much made the modern Philippines and created its political institutions.

 

[Nike]

Indonesia should be named Indonesia, our founding fathers and our Patriot had sacrificed their soul and blood under the banner of Red and White flag and Indonesia name to unite all of the people from Sabang to Merauke. Just a ******* Taiwan Chinese idiot like @Wholegrain who trying to dig up something so absurd. And Indonesia is something sacred which has became our National identity for almost seven decades, something in which cannot be replace by whatever name you think had any meaning you have in your pocket and dictionary. Just mind your business ******* idiot.

 

[Shardul.....the lion]

we have our share, we have already changed lot of names....

bombay........now mumbai
madras.......chennai
culcutta.....kolkata
victoria terminus......chatrapati shivaji terminus
bangalore.....bangluru

and many others....

 

[INDIC]

We feel jealous??? What are you smoking at...? Isn't it funny the name was given after Sindh(Province of Pakistan which is enemy of Bharat) by Greeks/Britishers(Invaders who ruled india & make you slaves) & is choosen by Bharat whose people cry 24/7 at Pakistan if it name it's missles after great Muslim rulers. lol what double standard.

What say @Spring Onion @Aeronaut @Patriots @KingMamba93 @haviZsultan @Secur @Major Sam @RazPaK @Yzd Khalifa etc.

India meant the people living east of river Indus with fits with current India, 75% of Pakistan lies in West of Indus river. which Greek ruled over India.

 

[Nike]

Alot of Filipinos use both Spanish first and Spanish surnames, others use Spanish first names with native surnames. I agree with you about the westernized culture, they are more Americanized than any other asian country since they were ruled by America for decades and America pretty much made the modern Philippines and created its political institutions.

Hey idiot, respect their Nation founding fathers who stick it up with Philippine name and everyone in those country who fighting for their freedom and gain their national identity under the name of Philippine.

 

[Apothecary]

The Pinoys are too anglicanized to change their country's name. Just look at their own names -Spanish.

The psychics of the Pinoys leans more towards the west than towards the east. Could be because the majority are Catholics as opposed to Indonesians Muslims which are middle-eastern.

This, this is what I'm talking about. The philippines is too heavily influenced by the west via culture and religion. To effectively replace the said country's name, you have to replace the local "Superior"(take note of the quotation mark) culture and instill your own replacement. You don't name a heavily populated catholic latino country with a chinese name. Even if china had a colony there once, the Chinese culture in that example country would be just a footnote.

But the Philippines government has been forcing Moros call themselves Filipinos and claimed that the inhabitants of Sabah are Filipino, when most of them are not Christian.

Tell me, what percentage of moro people hates being called filipinos? Do you have any quotes of a person that said or implied that he hates being called a filipino while also represent the large percentage of the moro people? When I've been in mindanao, every school I see sang the national anthem, a large percentage of them speak tagalog and all of them identified them self as a filipino.

The Philippines also claims the Spratly Islands including Taiping island (itu aba), which is controlled by Taiwan.

If this is the whole reason on why you want to change the name of our country, you're really an asinine idiot. I do really wish I'm wrong in my assumption. And besides, what your gripe with indonesia?, it's their country therefore you have NO authority on what they have to do.

The Philippines also claims the Spratly Islands including Taiping island (itu aba), which is controlled by Taiwan. Since you want to label our territory as part of the Philippines, we get to have a say in the name.

Seriously? why the **** would you even bring the spratly island in a discussion about naming a country on which you have no authority to do? And since philippines also has claims of the spratly island, by that logic the philippine government also has a say on naming your country. The same thing can also be said to china, Vietnam and Borneo. I'm guessing logic isn't your strong suit.

In China, "Chinese" is Zhongguo ren, which literally means inhabitant of the middle kingdom/state/country, person of the middle kingdom/state/country. Its just a descriptive term.

I really don't care. Why post this?

But the name Philipines and Filipino is derived from a colonial, racist King who engaged in a brutal colonization of the country which is named after him, and some of the people who fought this King's country for 300 years have to call themselves by his name?

Because the local "superior" culture at the time named the country. By that 300+ years, the culture, language and religion became INTERTWINED hence and the people began to accept the name. You don't rename a place that's been accepted for 300 years in a whim.
And Protip, nearly all colonization in the past have same racism in them. The philippines is not an exception.

 

[INDIC]

Hindustan was the name given to you by Persian invaders & as far as i've noticed & heard indians claim they hate invaders.

Hindustan was named by Persians, Hind was too named by Persian during Achaemenid Empire, Turks and Arabs got those names from Persians and we don't hate Persians.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

Germany, France, Iberia, Britain, Greece, Persia, Africa, Arabia, maybe even Rome, China, so, so, many others are also originated outside of the land.

 

[Wholegrain]

Indonesia should be named Indonesia, our founding fathers and our Patriot had sacrificed their soul and blood under the banner of Red and White flag and Indonesia name to unite all of the people from Sabang to Merauke. Just a ******* Taiwan Chinese idiot like @Wholegrain who trying to dig up something so absurd. And Indonesia is something sacred which has became our National identity for almost seven decades, something in which cannot be replace by whatever name you think had any meaning you have in your pocket and dictionary. Just mind your business ******* idiot.

I got the idea from an Indonesian who used the internet handle Sumpit on another site. He said Indonesia should be renamed Nusantara.

 

[INDIC]

Indonesia should be named Indonesia, our founding fathers and our Patriot had sacrificed their soul and blood under the banner of Red and White flag and Indonesia name to unite all of the people from Sabang to Merauke. Just a ******* Taiwan Chinese idiot like @Wholegrain who trying to dig up something so absurd. And Indonesia is something sacred which has became our National identity for almost seven decades, something in which cannot be replace by whatever name you think had any meaning you have in your pocket and dictionary. Just mind your business ******* idiot.

The name Indonesia is a nice name better than East Indies since its extremely unique. East Indians sounds odd.

 

[Wholegrain]

This, this is what I'm talking about. The philippines is too heavily influenced by the west via culture and religion. To effectively replace the said country's name, you have to replace the local "Superior"(take note of the quotation mark) culture and instill your own replacement. You don't name a heavily populated catholic latino country with a chinese name. Even if china had a colony there once, the Chinese culture in that example country would be just a footnote.



Tell me, what percentage of moro people hates being called filipinos? Do you have any quotes of a person that said or implied that he hates being called a filipino while also represent the large percentage of the moro people? When I've been in mindanao, every school I see sang the national anthem, a large percentage of them speak tagalog and all of them identified them self as a filipino.



Seriously? why the **** would you even bring the spratly island in a discussion about naming a country on which you have no authority to do? And since philippines also has claims of the spratly island, by that logic the philippine government also has a say on naming your country. The same thing can also be said to china, Vietnam and Borneo. I'm guessing logic isn't your strong suit.


I really don't care. Why post this?


Because the local "superior" culture at the time named the country. By that 300+ years, the culture, language and religion became INTERTWINED hence and the people began to accept the name. You don't rename a place that's been accepted for 300 years in a whim.
And Protip, nearly all colonization in the past have same racism in them. The philippines is not an exception.

The majority of people on Mindanao are Visayan colonists, not Moros.

This is an article from your own media.

Who are the Moro people? | Inquirer Opinion

Even the MILF which just signed the peace agreement with the Philippines government, refers to "Filipino" as a separate people.

Philippines: Moro people demand self-determination | Green Left Weekly

We were in the Spratly islands first. You started claiming our islands, so we decide what your name is.

Spratly Islands (reefs, South China Sea) -- Encyclopedia Britannica

Vietnam Joins the World - Google knygos

Where in the World is the Philippines?

The Law of the Sea and Northeast Asia

 

[INDIC]

Bilad Al-Sinnd!

All came from Sindhu, the Sanskrit name for Indus river.

 

[Apothecary]

Did you even read what I typed?

 

[American Pakistani]

India meant the people living east of river Indus with fits with current India, 75% of Pakistan lies in West of Indus river. which Greek ruled over India.

Where did the name derived from...Sind/Sindh. Who gave that name...Greeks/British Invaders. Don't keep your head in the sand, don't try to be as ignorant as your army or media personals.