Chances of Iran Getting T-50

[he-man]

What's your choice then? F-15? Eurofighter?

Nope,rafale as it has everything that eurofighter has plus has a functioning aesa and is much better in air to ground attack.
But f-15 is good too.

Su-35 loses in stealth,radar(pesa vs aesa,it actually has one of the most powerful airborne radars ever put in a plane but still pesa is an old tech,notwithstanding the power),avionics like irst and jammers.

 

[kollang]

Nope,rafale as it has everything that eurofighter has plus has a functioning aesa and is much better in air to ground attack.
But f-15 is good too.

Su-35 loses in stealth,radar(pesa vs aesa,it actually has one of the most powerful airborne radars ever put in a plane but still pesa is an old tech,notwithstanding the power),avionics like irst and jammers.

post 2015 Eurofigter tranch 3 will have a decent AESA radar with +300 km range which is beyond awesome.also not all European A-to-A missiles are integrated to Rafale.however rafale and Eurofighter have RCS of less than 1 m^2 while that of Su-35 is much greater.for Iranian case Su-35 is the best.for a neutral country Eurofighter is the best option.

 

[Tomyris]

should stop talking nonsense ... the su-35 does not exceed a technology it is even a generation fighter 4 with 5th generation component, are radar and PESA yes but her worn and extraordinary, and long term it will equip with AESA radar
. the Eurofighter has not 300km with its AESA but much moin t-90 is a good char and not one has the equivament and was no better. we had no equivalent to the F-18, and Qaher was no idea of the project if it is serious or a simple model, I love my country and I want to see the results not suposition.
just what you understand is that if the emabrgo and taken and that our aviation and old damn it for us .. we have old planes with a 5-year duration of life? 10 years? it's over the F-14 is over the F-4..c'est of old aircraft and exceed. if emabrgo remos and I prefer to have 60 150 su-35 new pluto kept as f-1 and f-4.sa give us time to develop a strong aviation industry

, without the pressure of a recovery sanction or Coalision millitary against aircraft and missile power, the su-35 can intercept any enemy planes it is faster than any fighter imprte of the region and are autonomy and radar are the best it can also wore very long range missile is the best choice for iran

for su-34 is a export and the export version called the su-32, iran could replace the su-24 by su-34 (32) also interested in Algeria

 

[he-man]

post 2015 Eurofigter tranch 3 will have a decent AESA radar with +300 km range

We will see when that happens.
Point is why would u want to pay 100 million for a eurofighter if u can get pakfa for the same amount??

 

[Tomyris]

We will see when that happens.
Point is why would u want to pay 100 million for a eurofighter if u can get pakfa for the same amount??

The Eurofighter is too expensive, and autonomy is low maintenance and too expensive, and if we are given under emabrgo we will have the same problem that our current aircraft

there will be no room detach or supports, so there is not even discussed the best choice and Russian, and will be between the su-30/35 and pakfa. we will be on having a power planes with maintenance and ammunition even if embargo.

 

[Siavash]

I found interesting information like to share with you. Talking about Su-30, Su-35, Grippen, F-22, F-35 there are nice info out there for comparison.

This shows Grippen RCS to be 0.1 square meter. Amazing for a 4.5 gen aircraft. See how it detects the 10 square meter RCS Su-30 even with less powerful radar.

I guess you all have seen the next one in the Aussie website. It is a nice one and shows based on the old data the detection range of different radars:

Again it shows the detection range of Su-35 lower than its counterpart due to lower quality RF front end (low noise amplifier and DSP together) but this only considering the illuminator is the aircraft Tx and no further illumination from ground which offsets the difference I assume.
I was looking to find RCS for SU-35 but couldn't I believe it is in 1 meter range and not the huge 10 meter of SU-30 but I couldn't, instead I found this interesting.

It says Grippin (JAS39) to be minimum 1.9 but the other site says 0.1 so probably it is skewed anyway if someone has comparisons good to provide it here

 

[ArsalanKhan21]

I think Iran would buy Russian fighters: Su-35 and PAKFA.

 

[HttpError]

Iran will post probably will buy Russian Equipment, they can buy anything they want because they have money (Oil) and if you have money you can even buy F22 lol, just make an offer the other party can't refuse .

 

[Siavash]

Iran will post probably will buy Russian Equipment, they can buy anything they want because they have money (Oil) and if you have money you can even buy F22 lol, just make an offer the other party can't refuse .

Oh, yea they can . Congress needs to approve all Arms sale. Iran doomed its relationship with embassy attack. Even if Hassan and Hossein become brothers congress will hate us and prevent sale. Not that F-22 is a good option.

 

[he-man]

I found interesting information like to share with you. Talking about Su-30, Su-35, Grippen, F-22, F-35 there are nice info out there for comparison.

This shows Grippen RCS to be 0.1 square meter. Amazing for a 4.5 gen aircraft. See how it detects the 10 square meter RCS Su-30 even with less powerful radar.

I guess you all have seen the next one in the Aussie website. It is a nice one and shows based on the old data the detection range of different radars:

Again it shows the detection range of Su-35 lower than its counterpart due to lower quality RF front end (low noise amplifier and DSP together) but this only considering the illuminator is the aircraft Tx and no further illumination from ground which offsets the difference I assume.
I was looking to find RCS for SU-35 but couldn't I believe it is in 1 meter range and not the huge 10 meter of SU-30 but I couldn't, instead I found this interesting.

It says Grippin (JAS39) to be minimum 1.9 but the other site says 0.1 so probably it is skewed anyway if someone has comparisons good to provide it here

The radar given here is wrong for su-30.
It has n011m bars and not zhuk radar.

Secondly the irst is ols-30 or ols-35 and not whats mentioned here.

 

[BordoEnes]

Su-47 Berkut is better choice for Iran .... its cheaper and probably simpler for Iran maintaining it ... Russians are working on it in silence .... just like Their Armata Tank , you should except them to unveil advance version of it in future ...

The Su-47 Berkut is solely used for technological demonstration, it isnt even offered for export nor does it have a production line. Why would the Russians even work on such a unstable design? They hardly have the neccesary funding to afford the PAK-FA program, let alone another "advanced" version of the Berkut.

 

[KhuderMosavi]

Iran needs Sukhoi Su-35 and Mikoyan MiG-35 very quickly, even Sukhoi PAK FA in the longer term, it is very important now when the missile program will be limited.

 

[Tomyris]

I agree with Khuder mousavi.those who speak of the F-22 is not understood life -_-.comparison and propaganda, the su-30/35 may shouté a grippen has a very large distance, amram presented and that of the best version of the Russian missile while it is an older version, the Russian missile owns the air- Air has over 200 300km worn.the most realistic option for iran and bought su-30/35 and can be mig-35 in a technology transfer contract for MIG and difficuté and we need funding.and for amateur grippen I immediately broke your dream ..... this aircraft and full of US technology will require the agreement of Congress even there .... enormously to American equipment.the cheapest option for Iran it is a su-35 equipping of long range missile, although it elevate an RCS, it can not destroy what impoirte has had a long distance, it will be more under radar coverage, so its will be too easy.

@edit: su-47 does not exist, it is a test prototype that allowed for the realization of pakfa.

is for those who love the Israeli technology, Indian built under license of Israeli HUD
otherwise it is not difficult to launch a major project and develop our own technology, we can make partnership with Russia is Chinese, is long-term with the West, I think a iran-allemange partnership will be the best because the German technology is renowned, and Germany using technology for easily.
even for the civil project, the German car are the best in the world, largemet better than the French car that are zero.

 

[VEVAK]

Even if the Aircraft was ready for export I really don't think the Russians have the guts to sell Iran the T-50

But if I was Iran I would sign a MOA on the delivery of 80 T-50's($12Billion), 120 Su-35's($ 8B) & 120 Su-30SM($8B) on condition that:
1.Iran only pays upon delivery of each Aircraft.
2.Delivery must be completed in the next 10 years and Iran has the option to back out if it takes longer (if it so chooses)
3.The last 12 of each aircraft types need to be at the very least assembled in Iran if not constructed and Iran will bear the cost of tools, facilities & personal.
4.The latest version of weapons and parts to be available for purchase for Iran upon delivery

 

[Hack-Hook]

Even if the Aircraft was ready for export I really don't think the Russians have the guts to sell Iran the T-50

But if I was Iran I would sign a MOA on the delivery of 80 T-50's($12Billion), 120 Su-35's($ 8B) & 120 Su-30SM($8B) on condition that:
1.Iran only pays upon delivery of each Aircraft.
2.Delivery must be completed in the next 10 years and Iran has the option to back out if it takes longer (if it so chooses)
3.The last 12 of each aircraft types need to be at the very least assembled in Iran if not constructed and Iran will bear the cost of tools, facilities & personal.
4.The latest version of weapons and parts to be available for purchase for Iran upon delivery

that is exactly were USSR went wrong . trying to compete in everything is wrong and will destroy you in long term