Chai Vang

[大汉奸柳传志]

You do know most "Latino" are white, right?

Not in America. where "whites" usually only refers to Anglo whites

Latino don't use machete.

They will. Nothing beats a machete in chopping people's head off

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Not in America. where "whites" usually only refers to Anglo whites

Anglo? You just excluded a ton of people...even Europeans don’t use Anglo in their definition of who they think are white. You aren't going to hear people from France, Scandinavia, Poland, Greece, Italy, Spain and a bunch of others call themselves "Anglos". You just use it because the British Empire was so dominant over in the China area so you figure it must be the same here.

Plus even then you are thinking Europe. @Gomig-21 is considered white in America..but maybe not in Europe. I think the European definition of white = European descendant. It isn't the same over here in the US. It has more to do with the basic "look" of someone instead of a continental boundary line. If you aren't descended from a black African, Eskimo, Native American, from the India area, oriental, aborigine, or Pacific Islander you have a pretty good chance of being called a white person in the US.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Americans

“White Americans are Americans who are descendants from any of the white racial groups of Europe, the Middle East, and North Africa”

This girl is Syrian...and considered white in America...but maybe not in Europe.

 

[jhungary]

Not in America. where "whites" usually only refers to Anglo whites

They will. Nothing beats a machete in chopping people's head off

First, most Latino are white, in fact, in Latin America, if you are not indigenous people (like Mayan, Azteca, Quechua), which is a minority or African that brought on by European, which is again minorty, you are white. 54% of Argentinian identify themselves are white.

Even white itself did not only defined as Anglo which was never considered a group to begin with, there are 4 groups of Caucasian people, Aryan (Indo-European, most of Central/East Europe, Western Asia), Nordic (Northern European), Mediterranean (Southern Europe, Northern African) and Iberian (Western European)

Is He White? He is not an Anglo

He is an Hazara Man from Afghanistan (Ayran)

Is he white? He is not an Anglo

He is Raoul Bova, an Italian Actor (Mediterranean)

Is he White? He is not a Anglo

He is a Sami people, or Laplander from Finland (He is one of the group of subgroup Nordic)

Is she white? Because he is not an Anglo

She is a Catalan from Spain (Iberia)

Is he white? He is most definitely NOT an Anglo

His name is James David RODRIGUEZ, he is a Latino.

If only Anglo are white people, then either my eyes is not right or you are wrong, because you are saying all of the above people are not white.

You can even consider Meghan Markle white.

Even when her mother is Black and Meghan Markle consider herself African American.

 

[+4vsgorillas-Apebane]

If the race roles were reversed and one white guy shoots and kills 8 Asian guys who were verbally abusing him and then surrounded and threatened him in the woods the trial would have a very different outcome.

Probably become a national hero.

 

[Gomig-21]

They will. Nothing beats a machete in chopping people's head off

lol. The death penalty in Saudi Arabia is executed (no pun intended) by a sword that could easily be construed as a machete as well. But it's all in the swing. Even if you have a Samurai sword, as lethally sharp as those things are, lobbing a head off requires the perfect motion of a single swing. Otherwise you end up in a hacking fest! lol.

Plus even then you are thinking Europe. @Gomig-21 is considered white in America..but maybe not in Europe.

What would they classify me as in Europe?

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

What would they classify me as in Europe?

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Probably lumped into “Mediterranean”. That’s what they use when they can’t figure out where you are from. But you are white here. (BTW nice pic)

 

[大汉奸柳传志]

Anglo? You just excluded a ton of people...even Europeans don’t use Anglo in their definition of who they think are white. You aren't going to hear people from France, Scandinavia, Poland, Greece, Italy, Spain and a bunch of others call themselves "Anglos". You just use it because the British Empire was so dominant over in the China area so you figure it must be the same here.

Plus even then you are thinking Europe. @Gomig-21 is considered white in America..but maybe not in Europe. I think the European definition of white = European descendant. It isn't the same over here in the US. It has more to do with the basic "look" of someone instead of a continental boundary line. If you aren't descended from a black African, Eskimo, Native American, from the India area, oriental, aborigine, or Pacific Islander you have a pretty good chance of being called a white person in the US.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Americans

“White Americans are Americans who are descendants from any of the white racial groups of Europe, the Middle East, and North Africa”

This girl is Syrian...and considered white in America...but maybe not in Europe.

so.. basically you are saying “if you look white, then you are white”. but we are discussing latino/hispanic here, I know they are more of a “mixed race” which means some are whiter than others.Are you going to say the whiter ones should be considered white but the darker ones should be not?

come on be honest...I think you know very well this is more about demographics rather than skin colour. now tell me with a straight face that the hispanics are not regarded as a separate demographic group from the usual “American whites” --no matter how you define the latter.

First, most Latino are white, in fact, in Latin America, if you are not indigenous people (like Mayan, Azteca, Quechua), which is a minority or African that brought on by European, which is again minorty, you are white. 54% of Argentinian identify themselves are white.

Even white itself did not only defined as Anglo which was never considered a group to begin with, there are 4 groups of Caucasian people, Aryan (Indo-European, most of Central/East Europe, Western Asia), Nordic (Northern European), Mediterranean (Southern Europe, Northern African) and Iberian (Western European)

Is He White? He is not an Anglo

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He is an Hazara Man from Afghanistan (Ayran)

Is he white? He is not an Anglo

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He is Raoul Bova, an Italian Actor (Mediterranean)

Is he White? He is not a Anglo

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He is a Sami people, or Laplander from Finland (He is one of the group of subgroup Nordic)

Is she white? Because he is not an Anglo

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She is a Catalan from Spain (Iberia)

Is he white? He is most definitely NOT an Anglo

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His name is James David RODRIGUEZ, he is a Latino.

If only Anglo are white people, then either my eyes is not right or you are wrong, because you are saying all of the above people are not white.

You can even consider Meghan Markle white.

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Even when her mother is Black and Meghan Markle consider herself African American.

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well you don't need to have me convinced. they all look white to me or to any other innocent outsider. what matters is how they are perceived inside the American society.. since Peter(poster above you) said “looks” matters more than origin -- and I think he's right -- even among the “whites”, they have managed to differentiate by look: dark haired, blonde haired, redheads, people who have Irish bloodline, etc, etc.. and all that stereotypes associated with them..What can I say.. Americans truly are the champions in practicing racism.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

so.. basically you are saying “if you look white, then you are white”. but we are discussing latino/hispanic here, I know they are more of a “mixed race” which means some are whiter than others.Are you going to say the whiter ones should be considered white but the darker ones should be not?

come on be honest...I think you know very well this is more about demographics rather than skin colour. now tell me with a straight face that the hispanics are not regarded as a separate demographic group from the usual “American whites” --no matter how you define the latter.



well you don't need to have me convinced. they all look white to me or to any other innocent outsider. what matters is how they are perceived inside the American society.. since Peter(poster above you) said “looks” matters more than origin -- and I think he's right -- even among the “whites”, they have managed to differentiate by look: dark haired, blonde haired, redheads, people who have Irish bloodline, etc, etc.. and all that stereotypes associated with them..What can I say.. Americans truly are the champions in practicing racism.

I think you are misunderstanding that there are many people in Central and South America who may have one or more combinations of Spanish, Portuguese, Native American, or black. Hispanic usually means you are at least partially Spanish (who are white people and so are Portuguese people).

So saying “are Hispanic people not white” could mean anything. You could be 100% Spanish and Portuguese so you are certainly white. Now are people going to start splitting hairs on every other percentage.

Here’s a crowd of Spanish football fans. I don’t think many people could pick out a typical person who calls themselves “Hispanic” in the US out of this crowd. They pretty much look like this. Spanish people are white people.

The US in general does actually default you to white if they can’t put you in another group. So that Afghani guy posted earlier would most likely be put in the white demographic.

 

[jhungary]

well you don't need to have me convinced. they all look white to me or to any other innocent outsider. what matters is how they are perceived inside the American society.. since Peter(poster above you) said “looks” matters more than origin -- and I think he's right -- even among the “whites”, they have managed to differentiate by look: dark haired, blonde haired, redheads, people who have Irish bloodline, etc, etc.. and all that stereotypes associated with them..What can I say.. Americans truly are the champions in practicing racism.

First of all, YOU CANNOT BE A RACIST WHEN YOU ARE DEALING WITH A RACIAL QUESTION.

Race is a group defined as a group of people in the same race, saying "somebody isn't white skinned so they are not white" is not a racist thing, this is a FACTUAL thing, they cannot be called white in a group, BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT WHITE. I will not call myself a white person, because I am not white, my wife will not call herself an Asian, because she is not an Asian. There are nothing Racist about it. That is called genealogy issue.

At no point, did US perceive or describe White people for a certain group of people beside their skin are white. In fact, the liberal attitude in the US have INCLUDED most non-white people to as a white group. In anywhere in the world, those who are considered non-Caucasian (the 4 groups I labelled before) were not considered white. That is a more liberal approach than defining the group by the definition of Caucasian. Because being white and being Caucasian is two different concept.

A person being Caucasian is almost always going to be white, that is by genealogy, however a White person need not to come from a Caucasian background.

This is a point you have been twisted. Being white is being white, I don't see any problem a country is calling a person white because of his/her skin was white, how does it become racist when it is why a person is identify as being white in the first place?? On the other hand, if I only call a person with blonde hair, blue eyes as white person, then that is racist. Hence, what you say, being white is being Anglo, is actually the only racist remark we had so far.

If the race roles were reversed and one white guy shoots and kills 8 Asian guys who were verbally abusing him and then surrounded and threatened him in the woods the trial would have a very different outcome.

Probably become a national hero.

You do know in your own documentary you posted stated a similar incident happen when a white guy kill 2 Hmong in a hunting ground and he claim self defence, the white guy went to jail with 2nd degree murder. Go to 55:21 at the video you posted.

It was right at the end at the very video you posted, I wonder why you didn't know.

The case is simple, Vang got abused, he snapped and he killed all these people,

he testified on court he reloaded his weapon,
he testified on court that joey deserve to die because he insult him
he testified on court that he believe none of the hunter were armed beside the first guy
he testified and demonstrate to the court how he move behind the ATV and shot people in the back.

And you call it self defence? LOL All I can say is you have zero law knowledge...

 

[大汉奸柳传志]

Hence, what you say, being white is being Anglo, is actually the only racist remark we had so far.

never said that. nice try tho

 

[jhungary]

never said that. nice try tho

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so you didn't say the following?​

Not in America. where "whites" usually only refers to Anglo whites

 

[大汉奸柳传志]

so you didn't say the following?

now, go look up the definition of racism and read it.

there you go

 

[jhungary]

now, go look up the definition of racism and read it.

there you go

That is what you said, and that is racist. So what? Can you rebuff it?

 

[大汉奸柳传志]

and that is racist.

but how

 

[jhungary]

but how

look up the term Racist.