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Absolutelyyou will not be able to trade a single peanut to kabul through chabahar that is our promise and we dont need any countrys help
Chabahar vs Gwadar
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In case a freight train route is built, you will have to increase the average speed you used from 30kmph to minimum of 70 kmph.
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Bozorg Shaitan has given you this tiny little bity leverage and this is your language and tone? What you will do when the Bozorg Shaitan will accept you as partner as at one point of time you were? Iranians are French of Asia, full of arrogance and bloated ego. We have many Iranian students here and unequivocally almost all of them are way too proud of 'something' that they are not, not even remotely. Most of them have issues with their supervisors and are not at all liked here. Many had to leave without their PhDs mainly because of their attitude problem. Your tone is reminding of one of my Iranian graduate student who I had to kick out from my lab exactly for the same attitude issues. Contrary to that, Arabs are liked here for their humbleness and lively attitude. So this is where my friend you Iranians are standing, disliked because of your attitude problem, and your post is exactly a reflection of your general national attitude.
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separate dedicated railway track will be built along with the roads/motorways for big moving vehicles. Entire infrastructure is being elevated.
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Honestly, I do see massive potential in Gawdar. It can be the economic hub of Pakistan. The country that seems to benefit the most from Gawdar after Pakistan is China. But when you say Gawdar is in a league of it's own, I got keen to know why?
Why do you think Gawdar is in a league of it's own. You do realize that at the moment infrastructure of Chahbahar and areas around Chahbahar is far ahead of Gawdar. Chahbahar is hub of Iran's oil refining and power generating plants. Economic activity is going on full swing in Chahbahar, while Gawdar is still under design stage.
IMO: Both Gawdar and Chahbahar will be hubs of Chinese and Indian activity. These asian powerhouses will use these small ports to reach middle east. They both serve the same purpose but very important purpose.
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Wow! That is what I call a detailed analysis!A far cry from the cut and paste keyboard warriors!
So does that mean transporting goods via the Gwadar - Kashgar route is unviable due to exorbitant costs involved in transportation?? If it is, then this project is a lemon, only to be used by China as an alternative route in case of an emergency, seeing that the cost of transporting goods from Shanghai to Gwadar is $440 per ton! (Rs 44,000 PKR per ton!!) Am I correct?
I'm sure the chinese have made all calculations .. And hence investing over 50 billion dollars... Unless you know more about the route,the prices etc than those involved in the multi billion dollar mega project !
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How good were at matchs? I was terrible but still I knew the basics.
91.57 hours are at par with 7.7 or 8.7 days! And 170 hours means 14 days?
There are 24 hours in a day.
91.57/24 = 3.81 days and you're making it 7.7 days.
170/24 = 7.08 days and you're making it 14 days.
From Dubai to Shanghai 15 days
From Karachi to Shanghai 14 days
Dubai to Karachi 5 days
How can a ship that takes 14 days from Shanghai to Karachi can take 15 days from Shanghai to Dubai when a ship needs 5 days from Karachi to Dubai? 4 Din aise he gul jer bhai app?
Do your match again and of course google proper and corresponding references.
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I think I made it pretty clear that this calculation was based on a Truck being driven for 12 hours everyday.
I have calculated time cycle with 24 hours non-stop shift before this one.
And Karachi to Shanghai calculation is for overland route. It is pretty obvious from Talk about Trucks
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And il happily spank your behind to knock some sense into you!
This just shows illiteracy of Geography of one's own country.
Take a good look at this Map.
As anyone with eyes could see, Wakhan corridor lies in Afghanistan. You does not share even a millimeter of Border with Tajikistan.
Thanks for posting the map .. Now if you had even a little bit of grey matter you woul have understood my post . When I mentioned Wakhan Corridot (a 20 in strip connecting Tajikistan to Pakistan) with road link being completed and rail link in the works .. I specifically posted 2 sources for idiots like you just in case !
Congrats you can google !
Now can you also tell us about the economic corridor being constructed and how much it will reduce the distance between Gwadar and Xinjiang???
Also can you tell us about your assertions that the goods will be transported to Shanghai and other other parts of regions of China specially Xinjiang itself ?
indian stupidity strikes again ! Bravo !
Do you think the Gwadar is expensive than Dubai o sea route for China ?
Do you think KKH is not being expanded?
Do you think rail links aren't on the menu? Or the optic fiber links? Etc
Do you think motorway are not being constructed ?
Do you think Motorways from Peshawar to Kabul and road and rail links to Central Asian States are not in the works?
Have you ever read or heard about the Sino Pak economic corridor and the related infrastructure worth over 50 billion $ ??
Do you think the Chinese are fools to invest such large amount of money in a project that is cheaper and dangerous and more time consuming ?
Fuk what do you even know about the project other than a bunch of old data from the Internet ?
Actually, You need to consult map (though that would do no good given your cartographic skills)
China is directly connected to Central Asia. It is your country which needs either China or Afghanistan for access to Central Asia.
@OrionHunter
Sure China surely is .. But have you ever fukin hear about topography ? Or the fact that CARS are land locked and their easiest and shortest route (With facilities and infra to the "warm waters" is through Pakistan? do you think Tajikistani govt is run by idiots who have complete a road link with Pakistan and working on a rail link? An and so on?
Start using your brain for once !
And il happily spank your behind to knock some sense into you!
This just shows illiteracy of Geography of one's own country.
Take a good look at this Map.
As anyone with eyes could see, Wakhan corridor lies in Afghanistan. You does not share even a millimeter of Border with Tajikistan.
Thibk tou for posting the map .. Now if you had even a little bit of grey matter you woul have understood my post . When I mentioned Wakhan Corridot (a 20 in strip connecting Tajikistan to Pakistan) with road link being completed and rail link in the works .. I specifically posted 2 sources for idiots like you just in case !
Congrats you can google !
Now can you also tell us about the economic corridor being constructed and how much it will reduce the distance between Gwadar and Xinjiang???
Also can you tell us about your assertions that the goods will be transported to Shanghai and other other parts of regions of China specially Xinjiang itself ?
indian stupidity strikes again ! Bravo !
Do you think the Gwadar is expensive than Dubai o sea route for China ?
Do you think KKH is bot being expanded?
Do you think motorway and rail links are not being constructed ?
Do you think Motorways from Peshawar to Kabul and road and rail links to Central Asian States are not in he works?
Have you ever read or heard about the Sino Pak economic corridor and the related infrastructure worth over 50 billion $ ??
Do you think the Chinese are fools to invest such large amount of money in a project that is cheaper and dangerous and more time consuming ?
Fuk why do you evn know about the project other than a bunch of old data on the Internet ?
Actually, You need to consult map (though that would do no good given your cartographic skills)
China is directly connected to Central Asia. It is your country which needs either China or Afghanistan for access to Central Asia.
@OrionHunter
Sure China surely is .. But have you ever fukin hear about topography ? Or the fact that CARS are land locked and their easiest and shortest route (With facilities and infra to the "warm waters" is through Pakistan? do you think Tajikistani govt is run by idiots who have completed a road link with Pakistan and working on a rail link? An and so on?
Start using your brain for once !
indian logic...
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Oh no.are you going to invade Chabahar?you will not be able to trade a single peanut to kabul through chabahar that is our promise and we dont need any countrys help
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I can't help you if you edit your post..... You edited it 5 mins ago..
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And il happily spank your behind to knock some sense into you!
Thibk tou for posting the map .. Now if you had even a little bit of grey matter you woul have understood my post . When I mentioned Wakhan Corridot (a 20 in strip connecting Tajikistan to Pakistan) with road link being completed and rail link in the works .. I specifically posted 2 sources for idiots like you just in case !
Congrats you can google !
Now can you also tell us about the economic corridor being constructed and how much it will reduce the distance between Gwadar and Xinjiang???
Also can you tell us about your assertions that the goods will be transported to Shanghai and other other parts of regions of China specially Xinjiang itself ?
indian stupidity strikes again ! Bravo !
Do you think the Gwadar is expensive than Dubai o sea route for China ?
Do you think KKH is bot being expanded?
Do you think motorway and rail links are not being constructed ?
Do you think Motorways from Peshawar to Kabul and road and rail links to Central Asian States are not in he works?
Have you ever read or heard about the Sino Pak economic corridor and the related infrastructure worth over 50 billion $ ??
Do you think the Chinese are fools to invest such large amount of money in a project that is cheaper and dangerous and more time consuming ?
Fuk why do you evn know about the project other than a bunch of old data on the Internet ?
Sure China surely is .. But have you ever fukin hear about topography ? Or the fact that CARS are land locked and their easiest and shortest route (With facilities and infra to the "warm waters" is through Pakistan? do you think Tajikistani govt is run by idiots who have complete a road link with Pakistan and working on a rail link? An and so on?
Start using your brain for once !
And il happily spank your behind to knock some sense into you!
Thibk tou for posting the map .. Now if you had even a little bit of grey matter you woul have understood my post . When I mentioned Wakhan Corridot (a 20 in strip connecting Tajikistan to Pakistan) with road link being completed and rail link in the works .. I specifically posted 2 sources for idiots like you just in case !
Congrats you can google !
Now can you also tell us about the economic corridor being constructed and how much it will reduce the distance between Gwadar and Xinjiang???
Also can you tell us about your assertions that the goods will be transported to Shanghai and other other parts of regions of China specially Xinjiang itself ?
indian stupidity strikes again ! Bravo !
Do you think the Gwadar is expensive than Dubai o sea route for China ?
Do you think KKH is bot being expanded?
Do you think motorway and rail links are not being constructed ?
Do you think Motorways from Peshawar to Kabul and road and rail links to Central Asian States are not in he works?
Have you ever read or heard about the Sino Pak economic corridor and the related infrastructure worth over 50 billion $ ??
Do you think the Chinese are fools to invest such large amount of money in a project that is cheaper and dangerous and more time consuming ?
Fuk why do you evn know about the project other than a bunch of old data on the Internet ?
Sure China surely is .. But have you ever fukin hear about topography ? Or the fact that CARS are land locked and their easiest and shortest route (With facilities and infra to the "warm waters" is through Pakistan? do you think Tajikistani govt is run by idiots who have completed a road link with Pakistan and working on a rail link? An and so on?
Start using your brain for once !
Pathetic counterpoise devoid of any substance. No one (including Chinese) ,except morons like you, are cumming in their panties about Gwadar. And that $50 billion (if they ever come) is loan for plethora of activities,including a gas pipeline to Sindh, not just corridor.
And Geography fail, There is no road in Wakhan corridor.
Wakhan Corridor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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And you supported your point with a shipping references? Besides, overland route from Karachi to Dubai hardly exists, your analogy in that case make no sense.
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I only added one word: Overland route in first Karachi to Shanghai equation as you were getting confused by two calculations, one directly via sea, another via Karachi and land route thereafter.
Overland route is for Karachi to Kashghar. I added sea transit time from Dubai toi Karachi to land trasit time from Karachi to Kashghar.
As the talk was about this corridor being used for Trade with middle east, I took Dubai as reference point for both calculations.
If we are calculating for two routes Dubai-Karachi/Gwadar-Kashghar-Shanghai Vs Dubai-Shanghai (via sea), Dubai to Karachi time would have to be added to total time.
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I have spoken to some of my closets friends from China and they have advocated the idea that the CCP government wants to move its industrial and manufacturing sector to central and western provinces of China, because the eastern coast is heavily populated and its not competitive enough due to rising living standards, in the forth coming next decades. In addition a vast amount of mineral resources is located in the western side of China, which is untapped because the level of infrastructure and skilled workers is limited. More importantly historically civil discontent and the uprising of the peasants against Chinese emperors has predominantly occurred in central China, where poverty led to the collapse of most dynasties. The CCP government wants political stability in the long term. Henceforth Pakistan will benefit in the long term because a significant amount of Chinese exports will go through Gwadar, however this will be a gradual process. Shanghai is a financial hub that will combine its stock exchange with Hong Kong in the near future, therefore a restructuring process is transpiring. 50 billion dollars is the first phase of investment and this will increase in the future. Pakistanis should be patient and not expect things to change dramatically within a decade, because this whole project is for the long term. I have worked previously for the Agricultural Bank of China and so I understand how China wants to transform its economy and what the government wants to achieve.
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