Chabahar Rail to Central Asia, Afghanistan, a Priority: Minister

[Pakistani Aircraft]

Indians are slowly coming back to the forum today. Well done.

You all deserve a free lollipop.

 

[GumNaam]

No he is saying, goods are loaded in Indian ports, then shipped to Irani ports and then are loaded again on trains en route.

This will cut the transportation time significantly, especially since sea route is one of the fastest ones...

that is stupid and crazy expensive. they would've been better off being on Pakistan's good books since rail links are ALWAYS far cheaper than ship transport but as usual, they shot themselves in their own bungholes!

 

[Cobra Arbok]

that is stupid and crazy expensive. they would've been better off being on Pakistan's good books since rail links are ALWAYS far cheaper than ship transport but as usual, they shot themselves in their own bungholes!

Answer this genius How many goods can a container ship carry? and how many goods can a train carry? No, Rail is NOT cheaper than shipping, the majority of international trade occurs through sea.

Answer this question. If what you say is true, why does India have FAR greater trade with Russia and EVERY CA republic than Pakistan? And the trade has increased since INSTC was initially conceived.

 

[coffee_cup]

Are you denying that ships cannot carry more than rail and trucks? And yes, trade by sea IS the most efficient. The only problem is that Russia does not enjoy a major year-long warm water port and the CA countries are landlocked. So the best option is to connect Indo- Iranian sea lanes with CA and Caucasian raliways.

Since you did not reply my previous post, let me post it here again, please enlighten us about that $700 million investement :
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Wait a minute, the article says this "Khademi said Iran has invested $16.5 million in construction of this railway since 2014, while the current government has assigned $2.6 million to the railroad operation."

So Iran has altogether invested less than $20 million and you are claiming India has invested $700 million in this project?

Or are you referring to some other unrelated project like Library etc?

 

[Cobra Arbok]

Since you did not reply my previous post, let me post it here again, please enlighten us about that $700 million investement :
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Wait a minute, the article says this "Khademi said Iran has invested $16.5 million in construction of this railway since 2014, while the current government has assigned $2.6 million to the railroad operation."

So Iran has altogether invested less than $20 million and you are claiming India has invested $700 million in this project?

Or are you referring to some other unrelated project like Library etc?

I have already posted links showing that INdian railway construction company has invested hundreds of millions in constructing the railway. Please look again.

 

[El Sidd]

Air -> PAF -> .......

and the Lord smited the transgressor with a bolt of lightning.

 

[coffee_cup]

I have already posted links showing that INdian railway construction company has invested hundreds of millions in constructing the railway. Please look again.

But unrelated to this project, right?

 

[Cobra Arbok]

But unrelated to this project, right?

That was very related to the project stated in the article.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Wait a minute, the article says this "Khademi said Iran has invested $16.5 million in construction of this railway since 2014, while the current government has assigned $2.6 million to the railroad operation."

So Iran has altogether invested less than $20 million and you are claiming India has invested $700 million in this project?

Or are you referring to some other unrelated project like Library etc?

that investment is only for 160km of the rail road from Qazvin to Rasht . that part must pass Alborz Mountain north of Iran .

 

[El Sidd]

I have a proposal, Iran should change land with Pakistan.
This is the most peaceful proposal, to bring ever lasting peace to the region.
Now support me for peace prize.

You gave a recipe for doomsday and a boring one at that

 

[coffee_cup]

That was very related to the project stated in the article.

Read all the articles. The main project for which you have opened the thread is from the Iranian port of Bandar Abbas to Azerbaijan and further.

The articles from Indian sources are all about Chahbahar port, which has nothing to do with the project of this thread.

And " India to export USD 150 mn rails for Chabahar port next month " does not mean investment, it is most probably an export for which India is paid.

I still fail to see how much India actually has invested in the "Qazvin-Rasht" project. And the result seems to be "zero".

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

We are not building a railway line TO Iran. The line is connecting Chabahar to Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, and eventually Russia as per the completion of the INSTC corridor. There is already a sea corridor connecting Mumbai and Gujarat with chabahar, the next step is rail connection between the CA republics.


First of all, Pak's eez is only 200 miles from its cost. Also, cargo ships have the right to use another countries eez for navigational purposes. EEZ simply means the country has the exclusive rights to economic exploitation of those waters, such as fishing and oil exploration.

If push comes to shove, I guess that is what the Navy is for. The main reason countries have navies is to protect its trade routes. India already has a heavy presence in the region and even has a radar station in Oman. But don't worry, Pakistan won't try anything funny in international waters.


Not to mention, how is Pakistan supposed to transport its goods to China's far East, the population center of China, from a small port in the southwestern most part of Pakistan? Especially considering a lot of CHina's infrastructure in Xinjiang and Tibet is relatively poor. China is smart enough to know that it will never get enough fuel to sustain its economy that way, which is why it will continue to be forced to use the Malacca straits, which are controlled by India. CPEC is simply a debt trap diplomacy plan, no different to what China attempted to do In Sri Lanka and Maldives. Obviously Pakistan will see some economic benefit, and they honestly need everything they can get, but some Pakistanis are not able to see that China has its own intentions behind CPEC that are in no way altruistic.


Except China won't be able to cut any travel time with Gwadar. Gwadar is on the southwestern most part of Pakistan. Most of China's population is in the East. Combine that with relatively poor infrastructure in Xinjiang and Tibet, and there is no way the CPEC route can be more efficient than the shipping route through the Malacca straits. The problem is Malacca is a chokehold that can be easily blocked by any major naval power, such as the US or UK. It does not help that India has a major naval base right next to Malaca via Andaman and Nicobar Islands, although relations between India and China have improved tremendously lately. China of course wants an alternative to the Malacca straits, but China is also realistic and knows it can never be able to sustain its economy through imports via Gwadar. Also, there is the simple fact that Ships carry more than rail.

India is not merely reacting to Pakistan, but is doing what is most efficient for its economy. For thousands of years India has been a major maritime economy on the IOR region, the INSTC allows it to connect its major ports to landlocked CA. Win win for everyone.

BTW, there is no reason why Pakistan cannot take advantage of the INSTC as well.

Do shut the f*ck up

 

[Cobra Arbok]

Do shut the f*ck up

what did I say that offended you? I am simply stating facts.

 

[BATMAN]

You gave a recipe for doomsday and a boring one at that

I don't like to be in a situation that of bone in kebab, between two love birds.

India to export USD 150 mn rails for Chabahar port next month

Thanks to USA & Pakistan.

 

[El Sidd]

I don't like to be in a situation that of bone in kebab, between two love birds.

be the fat