‘Celebrate Hyderabad Liberation Day’

[asad71]

Was he stingy only for his personal expenses or for his whole public?


The source may be his mindset not any reference book.


Moodi vows to convert the whole of India to Hinduism. Was there any Muslim King in the Indian history who vowed for any similar plan?

In the 'State of Hyderabad' during Nizams' regimes, there no Hindu-Muslim riots. All the dirt started up after Bharat's occupation. In the State of Hyderabad, Hindus and Muslims lived in perfect harmony.

1. The Nizam was prudent with money; not stingy as propagated by British and later Hindu media. There is no contemporary institution that has not received liberal support from him. Even the Hindu Unv, Benaras. ML and Pakistan received huge help from him. The Ottoman royals in exile were supported by him. His donations were really global for any cause. In WW II the assistance he provided to the British is unparalleled. For instance, he had procured few squadrons of Spitfires for RAF. A ruler providing free medicare and education to his subjects can hardly be graded stingy.

2. Another issue propagated to defame him are his marriages. It was the fashion at that time for rulers to marry several. He would carefully select the bride of a community/tribe for political reasons.

3. Today in Hindu India the descendants of the great Muslim families/aristocracies are subsisting practically hand to mouth. The Nizam. The family of Hyder Ali-Tipu. The family of Wazed Ali Shah. All have practically vanished. The Patuadis are somewhat afloat by adopting a kind of Din e Ilahi. And compare with the British bootlickers, the Wadyars of Mysore or other Hindu aristocracies. They are doing all fine. Wealthy and powerful. Most are available in the Indian houses of parliament. After all they are high born Hindus who reign in Delhi!!

 

[The_Showstopper]

Leave it yaar. Dont have enough energy left to debate.

So be it....

 

[Guynextdoor2]

1. The Nizam was prudent with money; not stingy as propagated by British and later Hindu media. There is no contemporary institution that has not received liberal support from him. Even the Hindu Unv, Benaras. ML and Pakistan received huge help from him. The Ottoman royals in exile were supported by him. His donations were really global for any cause. In WW II the assistance he provided to the British is unparalleled. For instance, he had procured few squadrons of Spitfires for RAF. A ruler providing free medicare and education to his subjects can hardly be graded stingy.

2. Another issue propagated to defame him are his marriages. It was the fashion at that time for rulers to marry several. He would carefully select the bride of a community/tribe for political reasons.

3. Today in Hindu India the descendants of the great Muslim families/aristocracies are subsisting practically hand to mouth. The Nizam. The family of Hyder Ali-Tipu. The family of Wazed Ali Shah. All have practically vanished. The Patuadis are somewhat afloat by adopting a kind of Din e Ilahi. And compare with the British bootlickers, the Wadyars of Mysore or other Hindu aristocracies. They are doing all fine. Wealthy and powerful. Most are available in the Indian houses of parliament. After all they are high born Hindus who reign in Delhi!!

- Nizam was a stingy asshole who didn't even take a bath
- who cares a flying f*ck who he donated to. Indian land is not for some @sshole and his family to enjoy as private property. Our rule is through our institutions. If he didn't have brains enough to understand that then we have brains enough to ruin him for good (and we did)
- if laat sahebs of said families didn't have enough brains and ability to make something out of themselves they should live on the streets like everyone else. WE have no obligation to make them live rich. The nawabs of pataudi have done well- they were muslim and they did well because they had people of ability

 

[Bang Galore]

My great Grandfather, the picture in my avatar, worked for the Nizam of Hyderabad. Hyderabad was a Hindu majority state, I have no problem with it being with India. But only if these two faced hypocrites would give Jammu and Kashmir the same treatment.

Blame Liaquat Ali. He had a chance when Patel made his offer. Also blame Jinnah, he didn't accept Nehru's proposal to follow those rules.

There is also no direct similarity between Hyderabad & Kashmir. Hyderabad didn't share a border with Pakistan, Kashmir did with India.

 

[The_Showstopper]

Yes, the Sunderlal Report as quoted by frontline does mention that the razakars had it coming. Look at the conclusion. They should have been cleaned. The time is now gone. Even then de franchising is an option that can be looked into.

I know your pain. How can 14% of Indian populace breath and live right under your nose? You can try all options including Gas chambers if that gives you immense satisfaction.

You tell me. From the perspective of protecting Indians, Hindus, Christians, ordinary Muslims, Sikhs etc ...is it not beneficial to prevent you from voting?

Indeed to protect the idea of India, it is a necessity to get rid of some of the rights Indian constitution bestows your ilk, I personally wouldn't want vermins like Gowalkar and his followers to survive in India...

 

[Hussain Farooqui]

My great Grandfather, the picture in my avatar, worked for the Nizam of Hyderabad. Hyderabad was a Hindu majority state, I have no problem with it being with India. But only if these two faced hypocrites would give Jammu and Kashmir the same treatment.

Dear Friend,

You may not have any problem Hyderabad being with India but we do have bundles of problems. Since we have lost our state, we have been suffering from the problems of homelessness.

I'm sure you think that a guy who didn't take a bath for several years and wore the same smelly clothes because he wanted to hold on to every cent he ever earned is going to be concerned for 'public'. And my @$$ there were no 'riots', what he did with the Razakars is very well known. In any case we don't have to bother about his claims. The Indian republic does not give power to shitty little kings whose forefatehrs somehow managed to captured power. You get elected - you rule. Anyone else who has any other pretentions- he either leaves on his own or we'll boot him out without any remorse.

We are not concerned with his personal life but his conduct with his public. His state was a Utopian state without any fraction of doubt.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Dear Friend,

You may not have any problem Hyderabad being with India but we do have bundles of problems. Since we have lost our state, we have been suffering from the problems of homelessness.


We are not concerned with his personal life but his conduct with his public. His state was a Utopian state without any fraction of doubt.

Be homeless and believe in your utopian fantasies. We will do what needs to be done with these imaginary ideas. If any of those heirs returns to 'claim' anything they won't be left alive.

 

[Areesh]

There we go, thanks for the post. Now please go through your post again. The concept simply states that "In order to protect yourself from harm" and has never stated that "In order to harm others". See the difference...


Sure, I believe its you who brought religious quotes in here..

These sanghis loons often bring this taqayya stuff. First of all taqayya is not a fundamental concept of Islam. It is not even a proper concept in fact. That's why you might not find anything explicitly about it in Quran and Hadith.

The fact is that in some dire extreme conditions Muslims were allowed to conceal their religion so that they are not killed because of that. Like Muslims of Central African Republic can say they are not muslims if some Christian militant puts a gun to their head. You see. Only in extreme condition to save your life.

Having said that. I repeat. Taqayya is not a proper concept or doctrine of Islam and that is the reason it isn't find in explicitly in Quran or Hadeeth. It is something that evolved later in some extreme conditions.

 

[Hussain Farooqui]

what two faced hypocrites. We have 2 principles
- India is secular so religion has no place in any narrative
- India is democratic so no system other than elections will be allowed

In compliance with the above 2 principles we removed the Nawab and threw his 'heirs' into the dustbin. And we didn't do that only to muslim kings, we threw out each and every hindu king also form power. They wanna trun their palaces into 5 star hotels, no problems. But anyone that thinks that he's gonna 'rule' will find himself socked by the butt end of a rifle.

A great job that you threw both Muslim and Hindu kings. Could you give any better standard of living to the peoples of those kingdoms? I think the peoples of those kingdoms began to live in lurch after the fall of their kingdoms.

These sanghis loons often bring this taqayya stuff. First of all taqayya is not a fundamental concept of Islam. It is not even a proper concept in fact. That's why you might not find anything explicitly about it in Quran and Hadith.

The fact is that in some dire extreme conditions Muslims were allowed to conceal their religion so that they are not killed because of that. Like Muslims of Central African Republic can say they are not muslims if some Christian militant puts a gun to their head. You see. Only in extreme condition to save your life.

Having said that. I repeat. Taqayya is not a proper concept or doctrine of Islam and that is the reason it isn't find in explicitly in Quran or Hadeeth. It is something that evolved later in some extreme conditions.

Taqayya concept is permitted in all the religions of the world with some principles. If somebody's life is in danger or his rightful assets are on stakes then he can pretend to other than what he really is.

Be homeless and believe in your utopian fantasies. We will do what needs to be done with these imaginary ideas. If any of those heirs returns to 'claim' anything they won't be left alive.

There are countless separatist movements in Bharat because of poor living standards. If Bharat continues to offer the same degree of living standards, the results may be very shocking to you people. Take any state which was occupied by Bharat, the peoples of the occupied states find living standards to be much poorer compared what their kings offered.

 

[Android]

Thankgod for that, it saved me the trouble of applying for work visa

 

[Guynextdoor2]

A great job that you threw both Muslim and Hindu kings. Could you give any better standard of living to the peoples of those kingdoms? I think the peoples of those kingdoms began to live in lurch after the fall of their kingdoms.


Taqayya concept is permitted in all the religions of the world with some principles. If somebody's life is in danger or his rightful assets are on stakes then he can pretend to other than what he really is.


There are countless separatist movements in Bharat because of poor living standards. If Bharat continues to offer the same degree of living standards, the results may be very shocking to you people. Take any state which was occupied by Bharat, the peoples of the occupied states find living standards to be much poorer compared what their kings offered.

Not interested in drivel. One thing is sure...ek aur baar koi is tarah ka bakawas kingly 'claim' karke aayee to uski haddi pasli tod ke ulta latga denge. Anyone who wants to become a king is very welcome to our land, not one bone will be left unbroken. His screams will definitely be loud enough to go back in time and reach his kingly ancestors and put fear of god in them.

 

[Soulspeek]

You people keep on harping about "countless" freedom struggles going on in India.

Except for Kashmir or 1-2 other places, where do you see such struggles?

Dont count Maoists. They are not seperatists but against Government machinery for not taking care of backward tribal areas. Naga accord to has been resolved now.

Ab kyaa bacha?

There are countless separatist movements in Bharat because of poor living standards. If Bharat continues to offer the same degree of living standards, the results may be very shocking to you people. Take any state which was occupied by Bharat, the peoples of the occupied states find living standards to be much poorer compared what their kings offered.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

I know your pain. How can 14% of Indian populace breath and live right under your nose? You can try all options including Gas chambers if that gives you immense satisfaction.


Indeed to protect the idea of India, it is a necessity to get rid of some of the rights Indian constitution bestows your ilk, I personally wouldn't want vermins like Gowalkar and his followers to survive in India...

No you don't know it. It's not a pain. It's a concern. You are, above all, a threat to millions of ordinary Muslims in India - with all your unlimited hate for all things non Muslim.

These sanghis loons often bring this taqayya stuff..

@Soulspeek Thou art a Sanghi now. Welcome to the club.

 

[asad71]

Hyderabadis - irrespective of religion are bound to rise against the misrule of the high cast reigning over Delhi. It is inevitable because they had enjoyed a much better, happier and more prosperous life before the invasion by India. DGFI, ISI and MSS ought to jointly open a bureau to monitor this for action where/when necessary.

 

[Mohd. Kamran]

Hyderabadis - irrespective of religion are bound to rise against the misrule of the high cast reigning over Delhi. It is inevitable because they had enjoyed a much better, happier and more prosperous life before the invasion by India. DGFI, ISI and MSS ought to jointly open a bureau to monitor this for action where/when necessary.

say who you ?

Bangladeshi muslims should care about their country and not ours.Stay away from us or we will make you.