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[Armstrong]

I already knew the meat is shared, it still is a sacrifice even symbolically by celebrating a sacrifice. Being Abrahamic doesn't make you less pagan, it just means you believe in a monotheistic supreme creator that has a different name than in other religions and you worship It directly instead of indirectly.

Of course its a sacrifice...theres nothing wrong with that so far as I'm concerned !

And if engaging in something that pagans used to do also makes something as pagan or otherwise than even something as simple as farming is a pagan construct !

 

[olcayto]

I already knew the meat is shared, it still is a sacrifice even symbolically by celebrating a sacrifice. Being Abrahamic doesn't make you less pagan, it just means you believe in a monotheistic supreme creator that has a different name than in other religions and you worship It directly instead of indirectly.

Well, here's what İ don't get.
As long as the animal is consumed after it's being killed, what would be the problem?

İ mean what extra harm/good will it do to an animal, by killing it just for hunger or for religion and hunger?

 

[XenoEnsi-14]

Of course its a sacrifice...theres nothing wrong with that so far as I'm concerned !

And if engaging in something that pagans used to do also makes something as pagan or otherwise than even something as simple as farming is a pagan construct !

Farming has nothing to do with religion.

Well, here's what İ don't get.
As long as the animal is consumed after it's being killed, what would be the problem?

İ mean what extra harm/good will it do to an animal, by killing it just for hunger or for religion and hunger?

It's whats being celebrated that I am against.

 

[Armstrong]

Farming has nothing to do with religion.

Its not about religion its about the underlying implied principle; its about the presumption of how the association of one thing with one group becomes associated with that said group ad infinitum as if there exists some sort of a first movers or a first doers advantage. That thing maybe anything religion, culture, language etc.

 

[olcayto]

Farming has nothing to do with religion.

It's whats being celebrated that I am against.

İn that case there's nothing İ can do to change your mind

Anyways guys, last four weeks in the Netherlands for me.
Kinda feel happy and sad as well :/

 

[XenoEnsi-14]

Its not about religion its about the underlying implied principle; its about the presumption of how the association of one thing with one group becomes associated with that said group ad infinitum as if there exists some sort of a first movers or a first doers advantage. That thing maybe anything religion, culture, language etc.

Pagan is a religious term, and is used a lot of times to make one inferior and the user superior. In reality it is neither, that form of use is based on ignorance.

 

[Armstrong]

Pagan is a religious term, and is used a lot of times to make one inferior and the user superior. In reality it is neither, that form of use is based on ignorance.

I think paganism was a bit more than the severely constricted term 'religion' would do justice to it; however what I said in my previous post does not hinge on it being a religious or otherwise term.

 

[XenoEnsi-14]

I think paganism was a bit more than the severely constricted term 'religion' would do justice to it; however what I said in my previous post does not hinge on it being a religious or otherwise term.

Then you probably mean paganus not paganism or pagan.

 

[-SINAN-]

Anyways guys, last four weeks in the Netherlands for me.
Kinda feel happy and sad as well :/

Moving to Turkey for once and for all.....nice thing buddy.

I think you will both love and hate living in Turkey.

@XenoEnsi-14 @Armstrong

Guys.... nobody here likes religious debates and it's also against forum rules..... so can you cut it out ?

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[XenoEnsi-14]

Moving to Turkey for once and for all.....nice thing buddy.

I think you will both love and hate living in Turkey.

@XenoEnsi-14 @Armstrong

Guys.... nobody here likes religious debates and it's also against forum rules..... so can you cut it out ?

Awww man, you brought out the rule book. I'll be good now.

 

[olcayto]

Moving to Turkey for once and for all.....nice thing buddy.

I think you will both love and hate living in Turkey.

@XenoEnsi-14 @Armstrong

Guys.... nobody here likes religious debates and it's also against forum rules..... so can you cut it out ?

First thing İ hate by far is the traffic, esspecially the drivers
A mentality of "the survival of the fittest" and " everyone is wrong but me" and " the strongest is always right" and " incase of disagreement physically fight, preferable with a haydar" and "using the car horn as a way to communicate" and so on and on and on.

 

[-SINAN-]

First thing İ hate by far is the traffic, esspecially the drivers
A mentality of "the survival of the fittest" and " everyone is wrong but me" and " the strongest is always right" and " incase of disagreement physically fight, preferable with a haydar" and "using the car horn as a way to communicate" and so on and on and on.

Exactly...

Traffic and Melih Gökçek.

 

[olcayto]

Exactly...

Traffic and Melih Gökçek.

That dude past by me once approx. 2-3 meters away.
He was saying hi to people while driving a golfcar at Mavi Göl.

Politicians don't bother me anymore mate. Frankly İ don't give a damn about who runs this country anymore.

 

[Wave]

Guys i cant belive how many people are not critical about stuff the read somewhere on the internet, they post something but they dont wonder why there is no source or a newsagency reporting it , they dont question anyting and start posting the dumbest stuff.
Just makes me wonder what they did in school

 

[XenoEnsi-14]

Guys i cant belive how many people are not critical about stuff the read somewhere on the internet, they post something but they dont wonder why there is no source or a newsagency reporting it , they dont question anyting and start posting the dumbest stuff.
Just makes me wonder what they did in school

There is a higher ratio of people who are not critical than those who are critical. I think it's 300,000 to 15.