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Capabilities of PAF Dassault MIRAGE-III/V.

Should Pakistan upgrade its Mirages to South African Cheetah standard if not Beyond?

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Just curious if RADD would fit under JF-17 center line station or just under wing due to ground clearance and landing gears
 
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Just curious if RADD would fit under JF-17 center line station or just under wing due to ground clearance and landing gears

I dont think that JFT could carry Ra'ad on centerline station because of limited space under belly.
Mirage is a tall bird with long landing gears thay allow it to carry large weapons, recc. Ppds and bulkey fuel tanks on centerline station.
While JFT dont even carry same size fuel tank on centerline hardpoint as it carries under its wings.
 
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There is a difference between height of the aircraft and ground clearance.
You will be better off comparing the ground clearance of both fighters if you are interested in what weapons can be carried on the centreline station.

@DANGER-ZONE
The height of JFT is 4.72m while that of Mirage is 4.5m. So JFT is taller than Mirage.
 
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@DANGER-ZONE
The height of JFT is 4.72m while that of Mirage is 4.5m. So JFT is taller than Mirage.

There is a difference between height of the aircraft and ground clearance.
You will be better off comparing the ground clearance of both fighters if you are interested in what weapons can be carried on the centreline station.

Ground Clearance .... Exactly.

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Getting any idea ?
 
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Yes this is very much clear now. But I wonder the aircraft designers did not anticipate this while designing?

Mirage is much taller than JFT.
JF-17 had to save costs and weight hence the landing gear are much smaller. This is the reason ground clearance is not as much as the mirage.
 
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No matter how capable PAF Mirages may be, let us not overlook the fact that the design is based on 60’s technology. Even Mirage 2000, which first flew in 1983, is now more than 30 years old. Despite its mid-life update to 2000-5 standard; French air force intends to retire its Mirage fleet starting 2020.

Without sounding unpatriotic, fact is that PAF is forced to utilize Mirage III & V versions primarily due to the lack of a better alternative. Sooner we replace these with more modern aircrafts like MLU F-16’s or JF-17’s, the better for the country as well as for the pilots who fly these 50 year old birds.
 
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No matter how capable PAF Mirages may be, let us not overlook the fact that the design is based on 60’s technology. Even Mirage 2000, which first flew in 1983, is now more than 30 years old. Despite its mid-life update to 2000-5 standard; French air force intends to retire its Mirage fleet starting 2020.

Without sounding unpatriotic, fact is that PAF is forced to utilize Mirage III & V versions primarily due to the lack of a better alternative. Sooner we replace these with more modern aircrafts like MLU F-16’s or JF-17’s, the better for the country as well as for the pilots who fly these 50 year old birds.
alternative is to do what the french did - built mirage IV for a dedicated role. evolve the jf-17 into a subvariant or even procure alternative delivery platform or improvise the raad to be more light weight to be mounted on the wings. it is still early in overall lifecycle/evolution. it has come this far with many decades ahead to go.
 
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Mirages are definitely retiring in 2018 because of their airframe hours.
Probably that's why PAC is coming up with a twin-seater variant of JF-17 Thunder.
 
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any idea whether the mirages will go first of the F-7s and the PGs
 
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