Capabilities of PAF Dassault MIRAGE-III/V.

[Chak Bamu]

@MastanKhan sb. You are right. F-6, A-5 were "majboori kay sauday". They sure can not be compared with the likes of SU-27, etc...

Personally, I find no reason to field 2-engine behemoths apart from our naval wing. We need to focus on our economy for the next decade; maybe then we can think about affording 5th. gen twin engine war planes.

 

[Armstrong]

Everyone cries over RD93... Yet is is a superb simple and robust engine. Dirty fuel? No problem. No high quality maintenance facilities? No problem. Try that with GE, P&W... The problem is that most posters do not have the sources and time to read all the valuable data...

So what you're saying is that, in a way, the RD93 is to a GE or a P&W Engined what an AK-47 is to an M-16 - Simple & Robust if not the Best of the Best !

 

[MastanKhan]

@MastanKhan sb. You are right. F-6, A-5 were "majboori kay sauday". They sure can not be compared with the likes of SU-27, etc...

Personally, I find no reason to field 2-engine behemoths apart from our naval wing. We need to focus on our economy for the next decade; maybe then we can think about affording 5th. gen twin engine war planes.

Hi,

Karachi and surrounding areas need to be protected by aircraft that can carry similar number of bvr's and wvr's as the su 30's---secondly---for naval strikes----they need to have a large load capacity and long legs---a lots of loiter time---a 30 to 36 aircraft will be a good number.

 

[Chak Bamu]

Hi,

Karachi and surrounding areas need to be protected by aircraft that can carry similar number of bvr's and wvr's as the su 30's---secondly---for naval strikes----they need to have a large load capacity and long legs---a lots of loiter time---a 30 to 36 aircraft will be a good number.

Yes janab.

JF-17 alone is probably not going to cut it for our coast-line & shipping lanes' defense. We need twin-engine combat aircraft with serious load and long legs. But I can not say what could that be. SU-27 & derivatives are probably not available. But this is all off-topic.

 

[Alphacharlie]

u r still flying mirage iii? he he he?...............we have mirage2000 vs

Son Dont troll. You are commenting on 2 Most Senior and Respectful members of this forum.

 

[SQ8]

Hi,

Please please----stop giving such bad examples. Those twin engine aircraft could not fly out of their own way. The single engine F16 carries more load than those twins----.

Each engine had such poor out put that in order for the aircraft to take off with chicken sh-it load---they had to pu t two engines.

Pakistanis have a pet answer---oh yeah we flew twin engine plane----oh yes sir----my car has a 4 cylinder engine as well---and what car do you have----OH it is a YUGO----.

So----let me make it clear for those---who are a little IMPAIRED in understanding----. When I say twin engine---I am talking the likes of F18's SU30's J11's rafale---these aircraft can carry a massive load---and fly a long distance as well.

What was the Q5 fantan---could carry only 1000kg weapons load with a center fuel tank----and has short legs----c'mmon Oscar---you should know better.

I do know better. I would advise you to know better and look where the reference is to:

Low cost. Both the F-6 and Q-5 cost less per flying hour than the F-16. Why? Their engines were cheaper, their parts cheaper..and more available. Nowhere has the question of larger loads or improved performance come up.
So when refers to something like the J-31 with two RD-93s... compared with say an aircraft like the Rafale.. or Eurofighter.. the operating cost may possibly end up being lower as well as spares accessibility.

In no way does that imply that the J-31 might outperform the single engined F-35 in terms of sheer capability and effectiveness.

 

[Bilal.]

@Oscar, so should we take it that PAF is looking into J-31?

 

[bc040400065]

Everyone cries over RD93... Yet is is a superb simple and robust engine. Dirty fuel? No problem. No high quality maintenance facilities? No problem. Try that with GE, P&W... The problem is that most posters do not have the sources and time to read all the valuable data...

And it(RD93) is really Really Cheap to buy. i read few years back just 2.38million a piece.

 

[SQ8]

@Oscar, so should we take it that PAF is looking into J-31?

No, we should take that certain twin engined fighters may be cheaper to operate or more feasible to operate due to the nature of their powerplant and the diplomatic and international niceties.

 

[Bilal.]

No, we should take that certain twin engined fighters may be cheaper to operate or more feasible to operate due to the nature of their powerplant and the diplomatic and international niceties.

Probably the notion raised from AFDP-2019 which called for single engined fighter only...

 

[Nishan_101]

I am amazed to see that PAC haven't got the money to produce JF-17s which were costing only $15-18 Million per piece. I would say that GoP should have given them around $1.5-1.8 Billions. To produce 100 of them.

 

[SQ8]

Probably the notion raised from AFDP-2019 which called for single engined fighter only...

True, that also envisaged that the aircraft come with powerplants that offer reliability and logistic guarantee in the event of sanctions. Moreover, if it does come to AFDP-post 2019.. and the need for a 5th generation asset.. there might not be a single engined powerplant available to power the aircraft that the PAF wants.

 

[nomi007]

only
MIRAGE-III
Operator is Pakistan

 

[Manticore]

 

[Nishan_101]

Quite old pic. But a superb one. MASHA ALLAH