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Capabilities of PAF Dassault MIRAGE-III/V.

Should Pakistan upgrade its Mirages to South African Cheetah standard if not Beyond?

  • Yes

    Votes: 181 59.0%
  • No

    Votes: 126 41.0%

  • Total voters
    307
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salam every one,

LETS HAVE A TALK ON DETAILED CAPABILITIES OF MIRAGE FIGHTER/ BOMBER.
because ROSE upgraded mirage still have to serve at least 10 more years.


BASIC DETAILS

DIMENSIONS:
Length 49.29 ft (15.03 m)
Wingspan 26.96 ft (8.22 m)
Height 14.75 ft (4.50 m)
Wing Area 375 ft² (34.85 m²)



WEIGHTS:
Empty 15,540 lb (7,050 kg)
Normal Takeoff 21,165 lb (9,600 kg)
Max Takeoff 30,205 lb (13,700 kg)
Fuel Capacity internal: 880 gal (3,340 L)
external: unknown
Max Payload

8,820 lb (4,000 kg)


PROPULSION:
Powerplant one SNECMA Atar 9C afterburning turbojet
Thrust 13,670 lb (60.8 kN) with afterburner


PERFORMANCE:
Max Level Speed at altitude: 1,460 mph (2,350 km/h) at 39,370 ft (12,000 m), Mach 2.2
at sea level: 863 mph (1,390 km/h), Mach 1.14
Initial Climb Rate 16,400 ft (5,000 m) / min
Service Ceiling 55,755 ft (17,000 m)
Range typical: 1,294 nm (2,400 km)
ferry: 2,160 nm (4,000 km)
g-Limits unknown


ARMAMENT:
Gun two 30-mm DEFA 552A cannons (125 rds ea)
Stations five external hardpoints
Air-to-Air Missile AIM-9 Sidewinder, Matra R.530, Matra 550 Magic
Air-to-Surface Missile AS.30, AS.37, Wasp
Bomb 250/400 kg bombs
Other rocket pods, ECM pods





detail of ROSE upgrades.

ROSE I
New head-up display (HUD).
New "hands on throttle and stick" (HOTAS) controls.
New multi-function displays (MFD).
New navigation systems on diaplay screen including an inertial navigation system (An Inertial Navigation System (INS) is a navigation aid that uses a computer, motion sensors (accelerometers) and rotation sensors (gyroscopes) to continuously calculate via dead reckoning the position, orientation, and velocity (direction and speed of movement) of a moving object without the need for external references. ) and GPS system.

New radar warning receiver (RWR), electronic counter-measures (ECM) suite and counter-measure dispensing system, dispensing decoy flares and chaff to confuse enemy missiles and radar.

FIAR Grifo M3 radar.
Beyond visual range (BVR) capability.
AIM-9L Sidewinder, AM39 (70–180 kilometres) etc
Add on of In-flight refuelling probes
RA'AD Cruise Missil.

ROSE II

Enhanced night-time surface strike capability.
SAGEM Forward-Looking Infra-Red (FLIR) system.

ROSE II fighters the capability to fly safely in the dark at very low level to avoid radar.

Few unknown enhancments.

ROSE III

New SAGEM navigation/attack avionics suite.
Mirage 5 ROSE III fighters and specialise in night-time surface strike missions.


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I would like to know why Pakistan is not quite serious when it's come to Mirage aircraft's, we have few variants in use, we have done modification in aircraft, we have rebuild factory for Mirage very good knowledge of aircraft's engine. Israel on other hand have done the same moreover they have developed their own KAFIR from Mirage 5. However the platform is quite old now but still KAFIR has been heavily modified and perhaps undergoing dealing with Argentina for sale.

My question is that why not Pakistan have done so "I am not saying saying, Pakistan should make variant of Mirage". At least Pakistan could have gone towards Mirage 2000, Which is basically form from Mirage 5. A very nice platform that we a history of usage, maintaining facilities and trained peoples as well.
salam every one,

LETS HAVE A TALK ON DETAILED CAPABILITIES OF MIRAGE FIGHTER/ BOMBER.
because ROSE upgraded mirage still have to serve at least 10 more years.


BASIC DETAILS

DIMENSIONS:
Length 49.29 ft (15.03 m)
Wingspan 26.96 ft (8.22 m)
Height 14.75 ft (4.50 m)
Wing Area 375 ft² (34.85 m²)



WEIGHTS:
Empty 15,540 lb (7,050 kg)
Normal Takeoff 21,165 lb (9,600 kg)
Max Takeoff 30,205 lb (13,700 kg)
Fuel Capacity internal: 880 gal (3,340 L)
external: unknown
Max Payload

8,820 lb (4,000 kg)


PROPULSION:
Powerplant one SNECMA Atar 9C afterburning turbojet
Thrust 13,670 lb (60.8 kN) with afterburner


PERFORMANCE:
Max Level Speed at altitude: 1,460 mph (2,350 km/h) at 39,370 ft (12,000 m), Mach 2.2
at sea level: 863 mph (1,390 km/h), Mach 1.14
Initial Climb Rate 16,400 ft (5,000 m) / min
Service Ceiling 55,755 ft (17,000 m)
Range typical: 1,294 nm (2,400 km)
ferry: 2,160 nm (4,000 km)
g-Limits unknown


ARMAMENT:
Gun two 30-mm DEFA 552A cannons (125 rds ea)
Stations five external hardpoints
Air-to-Air Missile AIM-9 Sidewinder, Matra R.530, Matra 550 Magic
Air-to-Surface Missile AS.30, AS.37, Wasp
Bomb 250/400 kg bombs
Other rocket pods, ECM pods





detail of ROSE upgrades.

ROSE I
New head-up display (HUD).
New "hands on throttle and stick" (HOTAS) controls.
New multi-function displays (MFD).
New navigation systems on diaplay screen including an inertial navigation system (An Inertial Navigation System (INS) is a navigation aid that uses a computer, motion sensors (accelerometers) and rotation sensors (gyroscopes) to continuously calculate via dead reckoning the position, orientation, and velocity (direction and speed of movement) of a moving object without the need for external references. ) and GPS system.

New radar warning receiver (RWR), electronic counter-measures (ECM) suite and counter-measure dispensing system, dispensing decoy flares and chaff to confuse enemy missiles and radar.

FIAR Grifo M3 radar.
Beyond visual range (BVR) capability.
AIM-9L Sidewinder, AM39 (70–180 kilometres) etc
Add on of In-flight refuelling probes
RA'AD Cruise Missil.

ROSE II

Enhanced night-time surface strike capability.
SAGEM Forward-Looking Infra-Red (FLIR) system.

ROSE II fighters the capability to fly safely in the dark at very low level to avoid radar.

Few unknown enhancments.

ROSE III

New SAGEM navigation/attack avionics suite.
Mirage 5 ROSE III fighters and specialise in night-time surface strike missions.


DSCN0270.jpg



Sorry to read this quite late now but, I would like to know why Pakistan is not quite serious when it's come to Mirage aircraft's, we have few variants in use, we have done modification in aircraft, we have rebuild factory for Mirage very good knowledge of aircraft's engine. Israel on other hand have done the same moreover they have developed their own KAFIR from Mirage 5. However the platform is quite old now but still KAFIR has been heavily modified and perhaps undergoing dealing with Argentina for sale.

My question is that why not Pakistan have done so "I am not saying saying, Pakistan should make variant of Mirage". At least Pakistan could have gone towards Mirage 2000, Which is basically form from Mirage 5. A very nice platform that we a history of usage, maintaining facilities and trained peoples as well.

salam every one,

LETS HAVE A TALK ON DETAILED CAPABILITIES OF MIRAGE FIGHTER/ BOMBER.
because ROSE upgraded mirage still have to serve at least 10 more years.


BASIC DETAILS

DIMENSIONS:
Length 49.29 ft (15.03 m)
Wingspan 26.96 ft (8.22 m)
Height 14.75 ft (4.50 m)
Wing Area 375 ft² (34.85 m²)



WEIGHTS:
Empty 15,540 lb (7,050 kg)
Normal Takeoff 21,165 lb (9,600 kg)
Max Takeoff 30,205 lb (13,700 kg)
Fuel Capacity internal: 880 gal (3,340 L)
external: unknown
Max Payload

8,820 lb (4,000 kg)


PROPULSION:
Powerplant one SNECMA Atar 9C afterburning turbojet
Thrust 13,670 lb (60.8 kN) with afterburner


PERFORMANCE:
Max Level Speed at altitude: 1,460 mph (2,350 km/h) at 39,370 ft (12,000 m), Mach 2.2
at sea level: 863 mph (1,390 km/h), Mach 1.14
Initial Climb Rate 16,400 ft (5,000 m) / min
Service Ceiling 55,755 ft (17,000 m)
Range typical: 1,294 nm (2,400 km)
ferry: 2,160 nm (4,000 km)
g-Limits unknown


ARMAMENT:
Gun two 30-mm DEFA 552A cannons (125 rds ea)
Stations five external hardpoints
Air-to-Air Missile AIM-9 Sidewinder, Matra R.530, Matra 550 Magic
Air-to-Surface Missile AS.30, AS.37, Wasp
Bomb 250/400 kg bombs
Other rocket pods, ECM pods





detail of ROSE upgrades.

ROSE I
New head-up display (HUD).
New "hands on throttle and stick" (HOTAS) controls.
New multi-function displays (MFD).
New navigation systems on diaplay screen including an inertial navigation system (An Inertial Navigation System (INS) is a navigation aid that uses a computer, motion sensors (accelerometers) and rotation sensors (gyroscopes) to continuously calculate via dead reckoning the position, orientation, and velocity (direction and speed of movement) of a moving object without the need for external references. ) and GPS system.

New radar warning receiver (RWR), electronic counter-measures (ECM) suite and counter-measure dispensing system, dispensing decoy flares and chaff to confuse enemy missiles and radar.

FIAR Grifo M3 radar.
Beyond visual range (BVR) capability.
AIM-9L Sidewinder, AM39 (70–180 kilometres) etc
Add on of In-flight refuelling probes
RA'AD Cruise Missil.

ROSE II

Enhanced night-time surface strike capability.
SAGEM Forward-Looking Infra-Red (FLIR) system.

ROSE II fighters the capability to fly safely in the dark at very low level to avoid radar.

Few unknown enhancments.

ROSE III

New SAGEM navigation/attack avionics suite.
Mirage 5 ROSE III fighters and specialise in night-time surface strike missions.


DSCN0270.jpg



I would like to know why Pakistan is not quite serious when it's come to Mirage aircraft's, we have few variants in use, we have done modification in aircraft, we have rebuild factory for Mirage very good knowledge of aircraft's engine. Israel on other hand have done the same moreover they have developed their own KAFIR from Mirage 5. However the platform is quite old now but still KAFIR has been heavily modified and perhaps undergoing dealing with Argentina for sale.

My question is that why not Pakistan have done so "I am not saying saying, Pakistan should make variant of Mirage". At least Pakistan could have gone towards Mirage 2000, Which is basically form from Mirage 5. A very nice platform that we a history of usage, maintaining facilities and trained peoples as well.
 
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RAAF Mirage A3-62 Whyalla 21st October 1990 Photo Daniel Tanner
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RAAF Mirage A3-62 At Whyalla after being transported from Woomera Photo Tony Lewis
Mirage A3-62 At Whyalla after being transported from Woomera Photo Tony Lewis.jpg


RAAF Mirage A3-62 arriving at Whyalla Photo Tony Lewis
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RAAF Mirage A3-62 as PAF 90-562 Combat Commanders School (CCS) badge on tail
Mirage A3-62  as PAF 90-562 Combat Commanders School (CCS) badge on tail.jpg


Mirage A3-62 as PAF 90-562 Combat Commanders School (CCS) badge on tail.jpg
 
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Amazing what PAKISTAN , engineering was able to acomplish with what it got from Australia

Just wow , what it was before ...

Amazing Transformation
mirages_at_whyalla-jpg.371251



And turned into after some love and care

PAFExercise2M.jpg


PS also credit to some collaborative work from French initially etc
 
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Amazing what PAKISTAN , engineering was able to acomplish with what it got from Australia

Just wow , what it was before ...

Amazing Transformation
mirages_at_whyalla-jpg.371251



And turned into after some love and care

PAFExercise2M.jpg
Good paint job.

The tried and tested old adage
If something moves.. salute it. If it does not move..paint it :)
 
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Good paint job.

The tried and tested old adage
If something moves.. salute it. If it does not move..paint it :)


hahaha you clearly have no clue what kind of depth the Engineers went to rebuilt planes from scratch there are a few documentaries that cover , what we did , and continue to do in our Engineering Centers

Initially even I was not aware of our capabilities untill I saw the capabilitie of PAF in official documentaries
 
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hahaha you clearly have no clue what kind of depth the Engineers went to rebuilt planes from scratch there are a few documentaries that cover , what we did , and continue to do in our Engineering Centers

Initially even I was not aware of our capabilities untill I saw the capabilitie of PAF in official documentaries
That was a joke..
and honestly I do not need documentaries to know our capabilities.
 
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