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Capabilities of PAF Dassault MIRAGE-III/V.

Should Pakistan upgrade its Mirages to South African Cheetah standard if not Beyond?

  • Yes

    Votes: 181 59.0%
  • No

    Votes: 126 41.0%

  • Total voters
    307
Sorry guys, I didn't edit the last column 2nd pic right maybe due to minor head injury and couldn't edit timely. Here's the right one.
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Cockpit view of a basic Mirage-5PA3 with radar scope for targeting EXOCET using AGAVE radar.
[Picture Copyright: Mustafa Aziz]
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#560 ex-Australian Mirage IIIO with replacement wings from South African Mirage IIICZ
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Mirage IIIEP Serial #101 nicknamed 'Baba' undergoing refit in Pakistan Aeronautical Complex Kamra. 'Baba' was lost in 2007 after serving 40 years with PAF since 1967, being 1st of the 18 when service ordered its initial batch.
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These planes must be retired immediately.......these are sitting duck to the modern fighter planes
 
These planes must be retired immediately.......these are sitting duck to the modern fighter planes

It would be ideal to replace these with Jf-17 but current production is only 12 planes per year.
There is a possibility that Pakistan may acquire 28 surplus f-16s from USA.
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More than 300+ F-16 are stored at Boneyard at Davis-Monthan AFB in Arizona.

Ideal for PAF
104 F-16 (current inventory 76 F16 + 28 surplus F-16 MLU)
50 Jf-17 block 1 (will be upgraded to block2)
50 Jf-17 block 2
50 Jf-17 block 3.
36-70 J-31

Deal for 36 FC-20 was almost done in 2010 but due to Zardari asking for his 10% from Chinese, deal fell apart.
 
These planes must be retired immediately.......these are sitting duck to the modern fighter planes
They still pack a punch and 'll be used if need arises in near-future. Why is India buying ASRAAMs for Jaguars? should they stand a chance only if confronted by our Mirages? leave aside the modern threats that they would definitely face.
 
Old pic with Heat-Seekers, Dumb Bombs on Drop-Tanks, Cannon, Rocket Pods and MATRA R530 under belly.View attachment 178688

PAF had that MATRA R530 in that time WOW!!!!! Amazing....................

It would be ideal to replace these with Jf-17 but current production is only 12 planes per year.
There is a possibility that Pakistan may acquire 28 surplus f-16s from USA.
1285692_d3ea63f7c7_b.jpg

3160640907_841c174a4b_b.jpg

More than 300+ F-16 are stored at Boneyard at Davis-Monthan AFB in Arizona.

Ideal for PAF
104 F-16 (current inventory 76 F16 + 28 surplus F-16 MLU)
50 Jf-17 block 1 (will be upgraded to block2)
50 Jf-17 block 2
50 Jf-17 block 3.
36-70 J-31

Deal for 36 FC-20 was almost done in 2010 but due to Zardari asking for his 10% from Chinese, deal fell apart.

Surely PAF will be acquiring these 28 F-16s from US and about more from Jordan too. Which might get license for JF-17s and K-8 or may be J-31s.
 
PAF had that MATRA R530 in that time WOW!!!!! Amazing....................



Surely PAF will be acquiring these 28 F-16s from US and about more from Jordan too. Which might get license for JF-17s and K-8 or may be J-31s.

The R530 was a standard weapon for the Mirage, just like the AIM9 was for F-16s from day one.
The R530 isn't very advanced....or high tech......has been suprseded by the superior Super R530/MICA
 
The R530 was a standard weapon for the Mirage, just like the AIM9 was for F-16s from day one.
The R530 isn't very advanced....or high tech......has been suprseded by the superior Super R530/MICA
But it was a BVR....
 
They still pack a punch and 'll be used if need arises in near-future. Why is India buying ASRAAMs for Jaguars? should they stand a chance only if confronted by our Mirages? leave aside the modern threats that they would definitely face.
See i am saying why mirage it is not ideal plane for Pakistan at this moment, now let me be the devil advocate here the problem is your mirage are second line defence after F-16, now about jaguar they will not meet Mirage because until India have air superiority they will not venture in Pakistan for India Jaguar is in 4th place, it can't be said same about Pakistan , because your JF-17 is still not fully proven fighter and are not in large number to take second line defense or offense. Now big carrot is will you send F16 on offensive then who will defend against Suk-30mki if you keep F16 for defense then these mirage fighter need to go for offense other wise if you are flying all your fighter in your own air space then even other Pakistani member will agree with me it will be suicidal.
Now to get out of this mess what Pakistan need to do is as your Pakistan Think Tank has said you need solid second line fighter it can either you increase F16 number to more than 140+ so that both Offense and defense can be taken by this fighter or you urgently need J-10 in some at least 50+ numbers for the second line defense.
I would love to hear from other senior Pakistan member on this but please no troll!!!:welcome::welcome:thanks........
 

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