Windjammer
ELITE MEMBER
- Joined
- Nov 9, 2009
- Messages
- 41,319
- Reaction score
- 181
- Country
- Location
The Need For Speed.
Mirages remain one of the fastest aircraft in PAF inventory.
Mirages remain one of the fastest aircraft in PAF inventory.
Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.
On paperThe Need For Speed.
Mirages remain one of the fastest aircraft in PAF inventory.
View attachment 852914
The Need For Speed.
Mirages remain one of the fastest aircraft in PAF inventory.
View attachment 852914
How fast can 30-40 year old airframes and engines reach the original paper performance specifications of factory fresh new builds? Everything mechanically degrades over time, airframes age, engines will degrade and limits are placed on what that plane is allowed to achieve etc.
Well they performed as good as any front line fighter when they visited Indian Occupied Kashmir without benefit of a Visa.How fast can 30-40 year old airframes and engines reach the original paper performance specifications of factory fresh new builds? Everything mechanically degrades over time, airframes age, engines will degrade and limits are placed on what that plane is allowed to achieve etc.
How fast can 30-40 year old airframes and engines reach the original paper performance specifications of factory fresh new builds? Everything mechanically degrades over time, airframes age, engines will degrade and limits are placed on what that plane is allowed to achieve etc.
Well they performed as good as any front line fighter when they visited Indian Occupied Kashmir without benefit of a Visa.
Only role mirages are fit to do is delivering RAADs/nuclear payloadIt took 2 Mirages ( 1 with SOW and 1 to target ), additional JF17s and F16s to protect them to deliver just 1 SOW.......just 1.... a Rafale can deliver 2 SOW ( SCALPS ) and is capable of defending itself on the way in and out ...
When they visited IOK - the flaws in the Mirages were also exposed - it is incapable of targetting itself or defending itself and in a high intensity war when using SOWs - the flaws of the Mirage were also exposed alongside its success..
It is time to retire these relics and move onto J17s/J10Cs who have better capabilities to deliver SOW and to be able to defend themselves while doing it..
What if you are able to carry out SEAD successfully(even in some sectors), then won't having more mirages as bomb trucks be favourable so as to not decrease the availability of the frontline fightersOnly role mirages are fit to do is delivering RAADs/nuclear payload
Thats pretty much it..two squardons should suffice..rest should bw retired
The Need For Speed.
Mirages remain one of the fastest aircraft in PAF inventory.
View attachment 852914
Where did I say anything about the capability of Mirages.It took 2 Mirages ( 1 with SOW and 1 to target ), additional JF17s and F16s to protect them to deliver just 1 SOW.......just 1.... a Rafale can deliver 2 SOW ( SCALPS ) and is capable of defending itself on the way in and out ...
When they visited IOK - the flaws in the Mirages were also exposed - it is incapable of targetting itself or defending itself and in a high intensity war when using SOWs - the flaws of the Mirage were also exposed alongside its success..
It is time to retire these relics and move onto J17s/J10Cs who have better capabilities to deliver SOW and to be able to defend themselves while doing it..
It took 4* mirages actually and were protected by F-16s.It took 2 Mirages ( 1 with SOW and 1 to target ), additional JF17s and F16s to protect them to deliver just 1 SOW.......just 1.... a Rafale can deliver 2 SOW ( SCALPS ) and is capable of defending itself on the way in and out ...
When they visited IOK - the flaws in the Mirages were also exposed - it is incapable of targetting itself or defending itself and in a high intensity war when using SOWs - the flaws of the Mirage were also exposed alongside its success..
It is time to retire these relics and move onto J17s/J10Cs who have better capabilities to deliver SOW and to be able to defend themselves while doing it..
This statement is very vague. You didn't mention who will be performing SEAD. If Mirages, then I don't see them performing this role until last resort. We are yet to see any SEAD action from PAF but I expect JF-17s and MAYBE J-10s to perform this role (even though they have been acquired for different purpose).What if you are able to carry out SEAD successfully(even in some sectors), then won't having more mirages as bomb trucks be favourable so as to not decrease the availability of the frontline fighters
It took 2 Mirages ( 1 with SOW and 1 to target ), additional JF17s and F16s to protect them to deliver just 1 SOW.......just 1.... a Rafale can deliver 2 SOW ( SCALPS ) and is capable of defending itself on the way in and out ...
When they visited IOK - the flaws in the Mirages were also exposed - it is incapable of targetting itself or defending itself and in a high intensity war when using SOWs - the flaws of the Mirage were also exposed alongside its success..
It is time to retire these relics and move onto J17s/J10Cs who have better capabilities to deliver SOW and to be able to defend themselves while doing it..
My judgement is that most of the SEAD ops will not be performed by airforces on both the sides. And what weapons pak uses depends on the escalation ladder.This statement is very vague. You didn't mention who will be performing SEAD
Can you please shed some light on what is your understanding of "SEAD"?My judgement is that most of the SEAD ops will not be performed by airforces on both the sides. And what weapons pak uses depends on the escalation ladder.
I believe that if India uses Brahmos and Nirbhay then Pak will also use its CMs. If India brings out its tactical BMs(which both sides know are for conventional warheads) then Pak will also respond with TBMs to hit Indian installations. The cost of using airforces will be too high for just SEAD.
Also the mirages have been grouped in 50 "tactical" attack squadron. This clearly shows the role of mirages in the future apart from ALCM.