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I doubt PL-15 will be the primary weapon on Block 2 JF. A vast majority of JF will continue to use the SD-10A inventory.
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I doubt PL-15 will be the primary weapon on Block 2 JF. A vast majority of JF will continue to use the SD-10A inventory.
How many ROSE 1 does Pakistan have?
Only ROSE 1 can fire it or other mirage as well?
Will it make ROSE 1 equivalent to Mirage 2000 in capability?
I wish we could troll by fitting an AESA radar, HMD/S, etc to the F-7PG. Call it Abhi-Bison and claim it can take out a Rafale.
Congratulations indeed.SD10 had been successfully integrated on the belly hardpoint of Mirage ROSE 1. Congrats to all. Mirages have become BVR capable now .
Good points, all of them.@Bilal Khan (Quwa) @kursed
If this is true then this can mean either:
1. The Chinese are willing to mate their missile to a Griffo radar. This might mean that the Italian radar option for the JF17 plus chinese missiles may have been more viable than originally thought. (and the Chinese radar won out based on capability and speed of integration and not some refusal of the Chinese to mate their missiles)
2. The Chinese installed a Chinese radar in the Mirage. AESA mirage 3?lol
3. This is just a statement about carrying the missile and not integration and firing.
Edit: 1 may be due to the induction of the PL15 and the existence of the PL15E, the SD10 isnt considered critical enough to be restricted in terms of integration.
Great news , I was thinking whether this could be done with the Grifo radar or with another aircraft painting the target .SD10 had been successfully integrated on the belly hardpoint of Mirage ROSE 1. Congrats to all. Mirages have become BVR capable now .
That stood out like a sore thumb
Artist's impression :p
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Nopes dear, single point.Does the belly hardpoint have a dual rack?
GrifoRadar?
Is there a possibility that block 2 radrs capable of firing sd-10s which will now be converted to block 3 have been upgraded to mirages and therefore they can fire SD-10s it's cost effective as those spare block 2 radars won't be used now given block 2s will be converted to block 3 standards
Centre pylon ha been used since the already present wiring for smart bombs can be used for this purpose as well. Changing the wiring through the wings is a long process (i once saw a Mirage fully disassembled, saw the wiring, and got the point)I don't want to sound like a 'Debbie Downer' but what would be the Pros of 'five main Hardpoint and short legged' jet be to get the SD-10s, that too on center pylon ? It needs either center or two inner wing as fuel tanks to be relevant, unless it be escorting other M-III/V strike package but then what is the Point of JF-17 / J-10CP etc ?
Now if 'my wishful thinking', the fuel tank Pylon could carry SD-10 as well along with Fuel Tank 'ala F-15 style,' though very unlikely then one can say 'wow, cool, or even awesome.'
Yes, its parent company i believe went bankrupt.Does this mean we can "put at rest" all of the T-Darter / R-Darter "rumours from the early 2000's
Nope, Grifo.@PanzerKiel yaar pic tau banti hay...
so does that mean that the ROSE1 Mirages will carry Chinese KLJ7 Radars?
30 odd. Only ROSE 1 have been configured to fire it. ROSE 2 and 3 remain dedicated strike.How many ROSE 1 does Pakistan have?
Only ROSE 1 can fire it or other mirage as well?
Will it make ROSE 1 equivalent to Mirage 2000 in capability?
Centre only, due to wiring.So can the SD10A be only equipped to the center pylon or can it be equipped onto the other 4?
Due to already present wiring.If possible could you comment why it is integrated only on under fuselage hardpoint ... secondly is there any technical reason why underwing inner hardpoints could not carry SD-10
Its slated to be there till 2038.I will take this question further. Why invest in dead platform??
They have now been dedicated for CAP / fighter sweeps / OCAOs.If this is indeed operationalized, you have SD-10 on center, 2 WVR AAMs on wingtips. That is not a bad option for air defence roles. These Mirages probably have 5 years of service left before they are replaced by JF-17s so all in all, a decent stop-gap measure. Plus this would be the most potent Mirage III in the world!
Fighter sweeps / CAPs / OCAOs.inthis case I see change of role for Rose-I Mirage fleet they might act as intercepter with this load.
Not at the moment.Congratulations indeed.
Can Mirage radar guide it to its max range?
If that is the case then we might as well start upgrading the ROSE 1s with KLJ7s.Its slated to be there till 2038.
Mirage may not have a nosecone broad enough to house the KLJ-7. A smaller antenna has to be installed. How that will affect the range performance remains to be seen.If that is the case then we might as well start upgrading the ROSE 1s with KLJ7s.
So basically we are going to use these 50 year old Baba G for next 50 years also.SD10 had been successfully integrated on the belly hardpoint of Mirage ROSE 1. Congrats to all. Mirages have become BVR capable now .
It seems Baba-jee still got some oomph left in them, or you can say that lessons learned off 26/27 Feb encounters highlighted the need for more CAPS thus needing more fighters on shoe-string budget.So basically we are going to use these 50 year old Baba G for next 50 years also.