Capabilities of PAF Dassault MIRAGE-III/V.

[Zulfiqar]

Rose squadrons do not operate H weapon, otherwise they would have been preferred over the old jets of No. 15.

So what are the rose mirages being used for (the one carrying flirs i.e zarrars, night strike eagles e.t.c). I mean what conventional weapons are being used by them if they don't use H-weapons.

 

[Talon]

So what are the rose mirages being used for (the one carrying flirs i.e zarrars, night strike eagles e.t.c). I mean what conventional weapons are being used by them if they don't use H-weapons.

Night strike eagles have night strike capabilities as the name suggests and the only Mirage sqn to have NVGs (or maybe Zarrars as well) if I am not wrong.
Bandits has the most advanced version with RAAD capability.
All others carry GPBs.

Edit: ReK is under development,maybe more sqns can support it or may support in the future.The thing is that you cant just hand a weapon to a squadron,every pilot of the squadron has to become Ops on it and usually one or two squadrons are given the specific role of that weapon.

 

[Zulfiqar]

Night strike eagles have night strike capabilities as the name suggests and the only Mirage sqn to have NVGs (or maybe Zarrars as well) if I am not wrong.
Bandits has the most advanced version with RAAD capability.
All others carry GPBs.

Edit: ReK is under development,maybe more sqns can support it or may support in the future.The thing is that you cant just hand a weapon to a squadron,every pilot of the squadron has to become Ops on it and usually one or two squadrons are given the specific role of that weapon.

So what do the night strike/zarrars carry for night strike. GPS REKs (Don't need flir for that) or LGBs or something else?

 

[mshan44]

 

[sparten]

The PAF has post Feb 2019 concluded that the 500 fighter number has to be miantained. Looks like Mirages will serve for years still.

 

[denel]

The PAF has post Feb 2019 concluded that the 500 fighter number has to be miantained. Looks like Mirages will serve for years still.

yes they will continue on which is why we noted an upgrade even if it means to zero out the airframe will be a worthy undertaking combined with best effort changes to deliver maximum potential.

 

[sparten]

The most impressive thimg is that IHK has some of the most indepth IADs on the planet and the Mirage/H4 combo penetrated it easily.

Saffer's engineering is goooood.

 

[syed_yusuf]

The PAF has post Feb 2019 concluded that the 500 fighter number has to be miantained. Looks like Mirages will serve for years still.

Paf is way short of that number

With all available assets paf can at most muster 400 planes of varied capabilities from 2nd gen f-7 to 4th gen f-16 and JFT

500 IS A dream

 

[jamal18]

Paf is way short of that number

With all available assets paf can at most muster 400 planes of varied capabilities from 2nd gen f-7 to 4th gen f-16 and JFT

500 IS A dream

A 'Cheetah' type project is the easiest way to solve this.

 

[MIRauf]

You mean a work horse ( JF-17 ) type project could get that number up ? Increase the batch size to 75/100 instead of 50.

 

[Basel]

Entire cheetah building infra structure is there intact!.

What SOW, BVR WVR with other goodies SA can offer?

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

What SOW, BVR WVR with other goodies SA can offer?

WVR: A-Darter

SOW: Raptor III, technology from the Tariq/Umbani PGB and Sajeel PGB/LGB

BVR: Marlin (100+ km)

SAM: Umkhonto EIR (30-35 km), Umkhonto ER (60 km)

Cruise Missiles: help in miniature propulsion (including supersonic ramjet tech), guidance tech, etc, and if need be assistance anywhere else if we want it, e.g., making a smaller Ra'ad variant, a Harpoon-like AShM, etc.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

The most impressive thimg is that IHK has some of the most indepth IADs on the planet and the Mirage/H4 combo penetrated it easily.

Saffer's engineering is goooood.

The French are known for their "Maginot Line" type intricate thought process!!! Jules Verne effects...

 

[denel]

What SOW, BVR WVR with other goodies SA can offer?

HMS on M3/5s, you already have secure comms from us. Cheetah equivalent retrofitment for all the M3/5s.

On land, we are the leaders on infantry vehicles and artillery; manpacks etc.

 

[jamal18]

You mean a work horse ( JF-17 ) type project could get that number up ? Increase the batch size to 75/100 instead of 50.

Yes, although to make it financially worthwhile you might have to produce more than a mere 25/30.

What SOW, BVR WVR with other goodies SA can offer?

To make it financially more attractive it would be nice if there were Pakistani sub-systems. A country of 200 million which after 30 years of defence industry has to run to much smaller countries for virtually everything.