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Capabilities of PAF Dassault MIRAGE-III/V.

Should Pakistan upgrade its Mirages to South African Cheetah standard if not Beyond?

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This is my point exactly.

What munitions and weapons could we partner with this platform and who can we work with on this?

For example for naval missions we could partner with Ukraine to integrate the Neptun cruise missile.

We’ve worked with South Africa to integrate the Raptor series of bombs.
Well there is a list of few things according to my layman's knowledge which can be coupled with this platform and used to destroy enemy AD.
1-RWR/ESM/ELINT Sensors suit+
wideband tactical jamming system.
2-A system which can intercept and automatically processes radar signals and manages the transmitters to effectively jam large numbers of diverse radar threats.Can Jam enemy land-based, shipborne, and airborne command, control, and communications systems, as well as radars that provide early warning and target acquisition surveillance of anti-aircraft artillery and air-to-surface, surface-to-surface, and surface-to-air missiles.Having range of no less then 300km.
3-Digital Radio Frequency Memory(DRFM).
4-UHF/VHF/Satcom and datalink.
5-AESA Radar.
6-Anti-radiation Missiles.
All the listed systems are very cutting edge,when it comes to getting a full system having all these things our options are limited.Here are few of our options:-
1-KG-800 or RKL700A RWR/ESM/ELINT/ pod.
2-Above mentioned pods have DRFM.
3-Link 17.
4-NRIET AESA Radar.
5-Since all systems are being sourced from China when it comes to missiles,we are left with two options a)China(YJ-91 Missile with range of 120 km,CM-103,LD-10).
This package would be a nightmare.
 
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Title reads,,

Capabilities of PAF Dassault MIRAGE-III/V.

ROSE-1 - All five Mirage IIIDPs, plus all 32 Australian singleseaters Mirage IIIO (100)
ROSE-2 - 19 French ex-Mirage 5EFs
ROSE-3 - Remaining 14 ex-French Mirage 5EFs
 
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It'd be better to for the J-16 et. al as it would (probably) mean quick integration work for the SD-10A, C-802, and a Chinese supersonic AShM (e.g., HD-1A, CM-302, CX-1, etc).

One way to get Russian approvals could be to just pay them a licensing fee for each J-16 we buy from China. The Russians can get $10-15 m extra for every plane they weren't planning to sell to Pakistan.

It will be good way to get J-16.
 
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Take that for a bomb truck..

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before upgrade


Mirage3 cockpit.jpg


after upgrade

ROSE2 display copy.jpg
 
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ROSE-1 - All five Mirage IIIDPs, plus all 32 Australian singleseaters Mirage IIIO (100)
Do you think that the Mirages-IIIDP's nose cone has enough space to house the Grifo-M3 radar? Isn't it's nose narrower than the single seater Miarge-IIIEA (also known as Mirage-IIIO)?
 
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Title reads,,

Capabilities of PAF Dassault MIRAGE-III/V.

ROSE-1 - All five Mirage IIIDPs, plus all 32 Australian singleseaters Mirage IIIO (100)
ROSE-2 - 19 French ex-Mirage 5EFs
ROSE-3 - Remaining 14 ex-French Mirage 5EFs

Where are Egyptian Mirages??
 
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Mirage 3 rose 1 have grifo.

View attachment 576511

Rose 2 have DART FLIR sensor beneath front front fuselage.
View attachment 576512
Yes I know that, but on your post #2297, in which you posted that ...
ROSE-1 - All five Mirage IIIDPs, plus all 32 Australian singleseaters Mirage IIIO (100)
To which, I had posted that ...
Do you think that the Mirages-IIIDP's nose cone has enough space to house the Grifo-M3 radar? Isn't it's nose narrower than the single seater Miarge-IIIEA (also known as Mirage-IIIO)?
Your above post doesn't address what I was asking. Would appreciate if you could clarify that.
Thank you.
 
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Oh gee——-I am shaking at my knees for the neg rating by this suck up retd mod who never had anything original of his own posted on the forum.

Someone hold me——.

MK I was just thinking that everyone discussing DRFM, including on this thread for the Mirages, doesn't understand that it is not some super duper technology that we cannot get. It is basically the same technology as on active noise cancelling headphones - some of which cost less than 100 dollars per piece.

Basically a DRFM and an active noise cancelling headphone do the same thing except in different parts of the electromagnetic spectrum. It just sounds scary and fancy to everyone because they don't understand the technology behind it.

Between, I heard you opened a thread while I was banned, I really appreciate that and @Khafee and all the others that stood by me.

The 6 negative ratings I got in the span of a day were all from a trigger happy mod who had no problem with insults on Erdogan but couldn't take a civilized discussion about the crimes committed by Mr. Kemal "Ataturk". I don't care much anymore for these ratings. It took me years to get 6 positive ratings but took one day to get 6 negative ones.
 
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This arrogance deserves a negative rating.

Tell me wtf is arrogant about it.

The enemy has surrounded us from all sides, made us lose our friends, and all you have ti is bitch and moan about my post.

You incompetent kids are the true enemies of pakistan.

As long as you people live with this mindset india does not have to worry.

Go focus on finding fighter / strike aircraft and make a 32 out the negative rating and take it.

Friggins traitors. Enemy is knocking down the doors and incompetent dont like my tone—-go find some weapons.

MK I was just thinking that everyone discussing DRFM, including on this thread for the Mirages, doesn't understand that it is not some super duper technology that we cannot get. It is basically the same technology as on active noise cancelling headphones - some of which cost less than 100 dollars per piece.

Basically a DRFM and an active noise cancelling headphone do the same thing except in different parts of the electromagnetic spectrum. It just sounds scary and fancy to everyone because they don't understand the technology behind it.

Between, I heard you opened a thread while I was banned, I really appreciate that and @Khafee and all the others that stood by me.

The 6 negative ratings I got in the span of a day were all from a trigger happy mod who had no problem with insults on Erdogan but couldn't take a civilized discussion about the crimes committed by Mr. Kemal "Ataturk". I don't care much anymore for these ratings. It took me years to get 6 positive ratings but took one day to get 6 negative ones.

Hi

Shit happens. Our Turk brothers are very sensitive to criticism.

Their sense of nationalism does not allow anyone to be critical of their heritage.

It is anticipated that these mirages may end up on one way trip so loss of machine will not be felt too much.

Rather lose an older aircraft than a newer one.

There is a poster here who is upset at me for talking about pilot loss with mirage.
 
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Tell me wtf is arrogant about it.

The enemy has surrounded us from all sides, made us lose our friends, and all you have ti is bitch and moan about my post.

You incompetent kids are the true enemies of pakistan.

As long as you people live with this mindset india does not have to worry.

Go focus on finding fighter / strike aircraft and make a 32 out the negative rating and take it.

Friggins traitors. Enemy is knocking down the doors and incompetent dont like my tone—-go find some weapons.



Hi

Shit happens. Our Turk brothers are very sensitive to criticism.

Their sense of nationalism does not allow anyone to be critical of their heritage.

It is anticipated that these mirages may end up on one way trip so loss of machine will not be felt too much.

Rather lose an older aircraft than a newer one.

There is a poster here who is upset at me for talking about pilot loss with mirage.

At Red Flag, it was seen that low level strike still works but with a steady incidence of casualties. So you aren't off the mark with your comment. A serving PAF officer wrote a paper where he looked at using UCAVs instead.

I think PAF doesn't truly want to lose deep penetration low level striks. I think they want to use the Mirages with standoff munitions and leave it at that. Not unlike how it was used on the 27th Feb.
 
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Tell me wtf is arrogant about it.

The enemy has surrounded us from all sides, made us lose our friends, and all you have ti is bitch and moan about my post.

You incompetent kids are the true enemies of pakistan.

As long as you people live with this mindset india does not have to worry.

Go focus on finding fighter / strike aircraft and make a 32 out the negative rating and take it.

Friggins traitors. Enemy is knocking down the doors and incompetent dont like my tone—-go find some weapons.



Hi

Shit happens. Our Turk brothers are very sensitive to criticism.

Their sense of nationalism does not allow anyone to be critical of their heritage.

It is anticipated that these mirages may end up on one way trip so loss of machine will not be felt too much.

Rather lose an older aircraft than a newer one.

There is a poster here who is upset at me for talking about pilot loss with mirage.
If confined to SOWs, the Mirages will generally be away from contested air space (esp. with Ra'ad deployment).
 
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