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Should Pakistan upgrade its Mirages to South African Cheetah standard if not Beyond?

  • Yes

    Votes: 181 59.0%
  • No

    Votes: 126 41.0%

  • Total voters
    307
Apart from the H2 and H4. Mirages are the only one with Raad Cruise missiles. Along with Jf17 they are with MAR-1 ANTI RADIATION missiles. All Gids made Pgms, may be with Chinese too. And who knows with bvr too. What else we need to do with 3rd generation aircraft.
 
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In the whole PAF only one squadron (Mirage obviously) has H-Strike weapon capability(according to my knowledge)..so as far as this stays the same, mirages arent going anywhere (atleast with that certain sqn)
Which makes replacement a bigger priority than ever, putting these Mirages in reserve and inculcating their tech on new aircraft.

Redundancy.
 
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No, 1 JFT = 2 Mirage aircraft in performance comparison.
Infact more than 2 ... but is there any clarity about babur clearance for thunder and strategic strike role which is currently assigned to mirrages
 
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133 Mirages, all types.

I can quite easily see PAF making more than 150 Block III JF17s. You only have to look at how many Mushtaq's were made to see there will be a long production run of the JF17 that may see it go past 300-350 units in PAF service once you factor in the Project Azm...

Project Azm, will mostly likely fail if PAF is trying to do a clean sheet greenfield design. Pakistan has no experience of even designing a basic propellor based plane like the Mushtaq, so going to a 5th Gen design for the first home grown plane is odd, and will be doomed to failure.
 
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The Avionics package is a bit older , while missile package might be ok , I just feel the pilot won't be able to analyse his 360 view and dangers in the most ideal fashion

Even with the 90's ugrade this is a bit outdated
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Comparing with some upgrades done on Indian side
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Indian fleet after some upgrade
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I can quite easily see PAF making more than 150 Block III JF17s. You only have to look at how many Mushtaq's were made to see there will be a long production run of the JF17 that may see it go past 300-350 units in PAF service once you factor in the Project Azm...

Project Azm, will mostly likely fail if PAF is trying to do a clean sheet greenfield design. Pakistan has no experience of even designing a basic propellor based plane like the Mushtaq, so going to a 5th Gen design for the first home grown plane is odd, and will be doomed to failure.
Pak folks are fast learners!!! They have also made JF-17 a done deal with foreign customers!!!According to the New York Times (read CIA), China is a part and parcel of this FGF project!!! And, the Chinese believe in Confucian philosophy of learning skills with time and patience, and nothing is unattainable with infinite painstaking and hard work!!! That's the beauty of working with the Yellow folks!!! One Tejas project is enough for this entire region of 3b+ folks....
 
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Pak folks are fast learners!!! They have also made JF-17 a done deal with foreign customers!!!According to the New York Times (read CIA), China is a part and parcel of this FGF project!!! And, the Chinese believe in Confucian philosophy of learning skills with time and patience, and nothing is unattainable with infinite painstaking and hard work!!! That's the beauty of working with the Yellow folks!!! One Tejas project is enough for this entire region of 3b+ folks....

They helped invent Math there is no shortage of man power and phd intellect
 
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