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[MMM-E]

T-129 is obviously a renamed and repacked A-129, these weak attempts at propaganda are quite satirical on your part.

Italian 5 ton class A-129 use American-British engine , avionics and weapons and no any fire control radar


on the other hand Turkish 6 ton class T-629 Attack Helicopter will be 100% indigenous

-- rotor and pall technologies
-- landing gear
-- TEI TS-1400 turboshaft engine
-- Helicopter EW System
-- Avionic and Electronic Systems
-- MILDAR fire control radar
-- 20 mm gun
-- CIRIT 70mm laser guided rocket
-- MIZRAK anti Tank missile


Iran can not develop Attack Helicopter like T-629 and Strategic UCAV like AKINCI

keep copying American COBRA and RQ-170

 

[MMM-E]

Who says these do not use anything foreign? you?

and who says these use foreign parts ? what about you jealous liar ?

ASELSAN develops everything by itself .... therefore Turkish projects takes so time minimum 7 years

Nobody can give critical technologies to muslim country Turkiye led by ERDOGAN

Copy cat Iran builds its own engines when you can't even build a simple marine engine for your ships.

first go and develop real Warship instead of a toy ... Iran call small Attack Boat as Destroyer

Turkish Naval Industry is 20 years of ahead of Iran

None of these engines even exist properly, first build them then we can talk about what parts you're importing.

PD-170 engine in service for UCAVs

and very soon TS-1400 , KTJ-3200 for Helicopters - Cruise Missiles


copycat Iran with low quality toys which were not prefered by anyone except terror groups

 

[MMM-E]

By develop you mean assemble, import, partially develop?

by develop you mean copying partially develop? copycat Iran


I am not talking about under license production in Turkiye in 1990s and 2000s


now Turkiye develops its own weapons ... you ignorant TROLL

These are just a development on the Italian A-129.

T-129 based on Italian A-129

T-629 and ATAK-II are based on Turkish technology

even Italy doesnt have its own turboshaft engine , fire control radar , weapons , etc for Attack Helicopters you ignorant TROLL


But there are Turkish turboshaft engine , fire control radar , weapons , etc for Attack Helicopters

and ALP AVIATION

The main components of the Helicopter parts were produced locally

-- the transmission rotor
-- the dynamic components consisting of the main and tail gearboxes
-- the main and tail landing gear

Meteksan MILDAR Milimeter Wave Fire Control Radar

-- LONGBOW The US ( range : 8 km )
-- MILDAR Turkey ( range : 12 km )

and soon TEI TS-1400 turboshaft Engine

 

[MMM-E]

Only in rare cases in the sense you mean. There is still heavy reliance on the outside for technology, hardware etc. This is okay, but you need to stop acting as if Turkey has a considerably truly indigenous defence sector.

nobody says that Turkey has a considerably fully indigenous defence sector.

only 67% as of 2020 ...... needs more 10 years for 90+% .....
and what a great progress by Turkiye between 2002 and 2020

said, they are still fundamentally based on A-129, Turkish technology incorporated does not change this.

You are trolling



ATAK-II 10 tons class heavy Attack Helicopter will be completely Turkish technology from design to engine , nothing to do with tiny A-129

ATAK-II

First flight : 2023
MTOW : 10 tons
Speed : 172 kts ( 318 km/h )
Service ceiling : 20.000 feet ( 6.096 m )
Operation envelope : between -40 / +50 C day and night
Engine : 2 x TEI TS-3000 ( each 3000 shp )

MILDAR Millimeter wave fire control Radar
HEHSIS 360 degree Electronic Warfare Counter Measure System
DIRCM Infrared Counter Measure System
Target Detection System
Helicopter Obstacle Detection System
Modular Avionics Architecture
4 axis Autopilot
HELMET Integrated Display System
Ballistic protection heavy armored Cockpit ( resistant to 12.7 mm ammunition )
1200 kg weapon payload capacity

-- 30 mm Gun with buried munition box
-- CIRIT 70 mm laser guided Rockets
-- MIZRAK Anti Tank Missiles ( up to 16 ATGMs )
-- GOKTUG Air to Air Missiles

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Turkey's technology is mostly from the US. Iran's technology is mainly from China and Russia.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

It's clearly still based on A-129 at its core but heavily improved.

There is no such thing as ATAK II. It's a drawing.

 

[MMM-E]

It's clearly still based on A-129 at its core but heavily improved.

You are a TROLL , nothing else

how can 10 tons class ATAK-II can be based on 5 tons class A-129 ?


ATAK-II doesnt use any foreing technology and parts ...... full of Turkish technology and new design
and A-129 doesnt have all those technologies

Millimeter wave fire control Radar
360 degree Electronic Warfare Counter Measure System
DIRCM Infrared Counter Measure System
Target Detection System
Helicopter Obstacle Detection System


also Italian A-129 use foreign engine and weapons ... on the other hand ATAK-II will use indigenous engine and weapons

There is no such thing as ATAK II. It's a drawing.

Dont worry
Everybody will see the first fight of ATAK-II in 2023 ...... 3 years ago AKINCI UCAV also was a drawing but in 2020 AKINCI UCAV made first flight

and AKINCI UCAV is more difficult and sophisticated System to compare ATAK-II Attack Helicopter ....

Turkey's technology is mostly from the US. Iran's technology is mainly from China and Russia.

and China's technology is mostly from USSR ( Ukraine-Russia )

 

[MMM-E]

It's called changing something. Su-35 is heavier than Su-27, it does not mean its not based on it.

both SU-35 and SU-27 are same ... Length of 21.9 m and Height of 5.9 m with Russian technology


-- A-129 is tiny to compare with ATAK-II
-- A-129 is Italian design with foreign engine , avionics and weapons ..... on the other hand ATAK-II is Turkish design with indigenous engine , avionics and weapons

-- A-129 doesnt have Millimeter wave fire control Radar , 360 degree Electronic Warfare Counter Measure System , DIRCM Infrared Counter Measure System , Target Detection System , Helicopter Obstacle Detection System

ATAK-II has everything


A-129 is not even fully Italian .....

The design is fundamentally foreign. As for parts, we'll judge it once it's actually real and not a CGI picture.

ATAK-II will be designed , developed and produced by Turkish defense companies and engineers with 100% indigenous

and Everybody will see the first flight of ATAK-II in 2023


even Turkiye has more sophisticated System to compare ATAK-II ... its AKINCI UCAV which is only a few Countries in the World

except Engine full of indigenous ... and Turkiye develops new more powerful turboprob Engine to power AKINCI UCAV

and AKINCI UCAV will carry AESA Radar ,8 km MIZRAK anti Tank Missile , 70+ km KUZGUN join strike munition with IIR seeker , 280 km SOM Cruise Missile even 65 km BOZDOGAN air to air Missile to destroy enemy Tanks , Air Defense Systems , Attack Helicopters

 

[Irfan Baloch]

@Philosopher and @MMM-E

take a break from each other and stop circular arguments.
no more name calling and petty arguments
I have read all your posts and its embarrassing to see how you are dragging on the dead horse
so don't try to tell me you are righteous and other one is a villain.

 

[Philosopher]

@Philosopher and @MMM-E

take a break from each other and stop circular arguments.
no more name calling and petty arguments
I have read all your posts and its embarrassing to see how you are dragging on the dead horse
so don't try to tell me you are righteous and other one is a villain.

I think it would be best to delete this thread/close the thread if possible.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

both SU-35 and SU-27 are same ... Length of 21.9 m and Height of 5.9 m with Russian technology ...You ignorant TROLL


-- A-129 is tiny to compare with ATAK-II
-- A-129 is Italian design with foreign engine , avionics and weapons ..... on the other hand ATAK-II is Turkish design with indigenous engine , avionics and weapons

-- A-129 doesnt have Millimeter wave fire control Radar , 360 degree Electronic Warfare Counter Measure System , DIRCM Infrared Counter Measure System , Target Detection System , Helicopter Obstacle Detection System

ATAK-II has everything


A-129 is not even fully Italian .....






ATAK-II will be designed , developed and produced by Turkish defense companies and engineers with 100% indigenous

and Everybody will see the first flight of ATAK-II in 2023


even Turkiye has more sophisticated System to compare ATAK-II ... its AKINCI UCAV which is only a few Countries in the World

except Engine full of indigenous ... and Turkiye develops new more powerful turboprob Engine to power AKINCI UCAV

and AKINCI UCAV will carry AESA Radar ,8 km MIZRAK anti Tank Missile , 70+ km KUZGUN join strike munition with IIR seeker , 280 km SOM Cruise Missile even 65 km BOZDOGAN air to air Missile to destroy enemy Tanks , Air Defense Systems , Attack Helicopters

remove name calling in your posts or I will start deleting your posts

 

[Irfan Baloch]

I think it would be best to delete this thread/close the thread if possible.

if we go by that standard then such arguments wont leave us from any open thread.
self control and restraint is better than beating the other side to submit to your argument.

there is no 100% indigenous weapons in the world .... even American and Israeli UCAVs use import engine
even American ABRAMS Tank use German 120mm gun


100% Turkish Weapons

KORAL and REDET Radar Electronic Warfare
ANKA-S and AKSUNGUR UCAVs with TEI PD-170 turboprob Engine
SOM and ATMACA Cruise Missiles with KTJ-3200 turbojet Engine
T-625 utility Helicopter with TEI TS-1400 turboshaft Engine
T-629 Attack Helicopter with TEI TS-1400 turboshaft Engine

and many more upcoming Turkish Weapons


copycat Iran can not develop even high quality world class electronic systems for Fighter Jets and Helicopters


learn about military day dreamer

Ukraine gave cruise missile technology to Iran and China in 2000s


copycat İran and China are nothing without Soviet technology

that is correct. but you dragged yourself into irrelevant argument with @Philosopher. despite all advances there are always some neches where despite all the capabilities and advances its seen more efficient to import / buy products rather than produce them. it doesn't necessarily always mean that the technology is lacking/ capabilities of indigenous Turkish drone technology is as good as is available on open source but based on that alone it is easy to conclude its decades ahead of many countries including Iran and Pakistan.

 

[IblinI]

there is no 100% indigenous weapons in the world .... even American and Israeli UCAVs use import engine
even American ABRAMS Tank use German 120mm gun


100% Turkish Weapons

KORAL and REDET Radar Electronic Warfare
ANKA-S and AKSUNGUR UCAVs with TEI PD-170 turboprob Engine
SOM and ATMACA Cruise Missiles with KTJ-3200 turbojet Engine
T-625 utility Helicopter with TEI TS-1400 turboshaft Engine
T-629 Attack Helicopter with TEI TS-1400 turboshaft Engine

and many more upcoming Turkish Weapons


copycat Iran can not develop even high quality world class electronic systems for Fighter Jets and Helicopters


learn about military day dreamer

Ukraine gave cruise missile technology to Iran and China in 2000s


copycat İran and China are nothing without Soviet technology

You just never changed, do you? A list which no one bother to read, just so you know,you are not helping your country.

Jealous persian , chinese and arab users are crying ...... keep crying

Ukraine gave cruise missile technology to Iran and China in 2000s


copycat İran and China are nothing without Soviet technology

@PakSword @waz @WebMaster Can you please do something to tame this wild horse, what does this thread has anything to do with China, and what in hell with all his "contents"?

 

[Wilhelm II]

both SU-35 and SU-27 are same ... Length of 21.9 m and Height of 5.9 m with Russian technology


-- A-129 is tiny to compare with ATAK-II
-- A-129 is Italian design with foreign engine , avionics and weapons ..... on the other hand ATAK-II is Turkish design with indigenous engine , avionics and weapons

-- A-129 doesnt have Millimeter wave fire control Radar , 360 degree Electronic Warfare Counter Measure System , DIRCM Infrared Counter Measure System , Target Detection System , Helicopter Obstacle Detection System

ATAK-II has everything


A-129 is not even fully Italian .....






ATAK-II will be designed , developed and produced by Turkish defense companies and engineers with 100% indigenous

and Everybody will see the first flight of ATAK-II in 2023


even Turkiye has more sophisticated System to compare ATAK-II ... its AKINCI UCAV which is only a few Countries in the World

except Engine full of indigenous ... and Turkiye develops new more powerful turboprob Engine to power AKINCI UCAV

and AKINCI UCAV will carry AESA Radar ,8 km MIZRAK anti Tank Missile , 70+ km KUZGUN join strike munition with IIR seeker , 280 km SOM Cruise Missile even 65 km BOZDOGAN air to air Missile to destroy enemy Tanks , Air Defense Systems , Attack Helicopters

Stop man Please rest you need to sleep

 

[Hack-Hook]

and Turkiye now has started mass production of Aselsan CATS E/O System for game changer Turkish UCAVs which kicked ASSAD Regime , IRGC and Hezbolah in Idlib/Syria , also HAFTAR in Libya and Armenians in Nagorno-Karabakh/Azerbaijan

Turkish UCAVs will continue to kick enemies everywhere ...... keep crying

Good for turkey
Its some how irrelevant but i have a question how come assad after recieving such beating still managed to advance so much and kick *** of turkey backed Al-Nusra terrorist front ?