Can India China work together in Afghanistan for regional stability?

[singh sahab]

You are whining !!

And you give too much credit to China. They pretty much have a terrible relationship with all their neighbors (other than our Pak friends and that too because of the India centric nature of that relationship).

Afghanistan is on track to become an independent nation and we should support that. Pak is pretty much irrelevant in the Afghan political/defense picture going forward (other than a neighbor)

That says a lot about your understanding of the topic.

C'mon accept it you have almost all the influence on Afghanistan. Kharzai era has finished its new regime New day and New players . You cannot defeat Pakistan

Defeat?

It might come to you as a surprise, but the article was written without any prejudice towards China or Pakistan, Which seem to have got pretty much hanged of.

I dont think India and China Work Together in Afghanistan in fact both sides are Rivals if we consider Asian Geopolitics as a whole. Chinese working with India isnt Favorable to Chinese Interest in the region. Chinese are moving towards Expansion and Central Asia Mineral resources rich is another area alongside with SCS where Chinese wants some degree of Influence and since Russia is in Dire state so losing influence of Russia is probable and in such situation Chinese are waiting for an opportunity to fill the gap of Russia in Central Asia to protect its interest so Inviting India into it would be like inviting USA to the region because last Obama visit to India has already Vigilant Chinese of what USA is planning in the region and USA Plans are not good for Chinese Interests.

Another Aspect of denying India is having Pakistanis on their side because when you have a Friendly Country that had lot of Influence in that Country to assist why would Chinese want Indian help on the first Place?Pakistan is more then enough to assist them in their Plans in fact its good for Pakistan's National interests so Pakistan can stretch even further to assist Chinese in their Plan so having Indian help is not only unnecessary but not favorable either. f


If USA didnt had Involved India in Afghanistan then USA would be the one Crafting the riches right now.

When USA Involved India the Indians wasted no Opportunity to start their Pakistan Encirclement Scheme and that caused Pakistan to go rough and eventually lead to USA Failure in Crafting Afghan Riches.

Now I think their is a lesson for USA here to Chose Wisely among Contributors to their mission.

Excuse me, what are you taking credit for?

 

[browser]

That says a lot about your understanding of the topic.


Defeat?

It might come to you as a surprise, but the article was written without any prejudice towards China or Pakistan, Which seem to have got pretty much hanged of.

Agree that you had no prejudice towards China and Pakistan.

But you need to wake up and smell reality. Are we expecting some Chinese benevolence to include India in their dealings? Never going to happen!!

Was 1961 not a lesson or should we keep trying to offer our *** to them?

 

[Echo_419]

Afghanistan is like a rough diamond. if you can craft it just right you're in for riches.

think if China buys off the Taliban and the government they would see massive returns in the near and far future.

I don't know what India role could be in Afghanistan maybe the same tactic??

We have tried this in the Past & it does not work,there are simply to many groups
On topic
PK's role will be very important & India & Pakistan should come at a common ground on Afghanistan

 

[singh sahab]

Agree that you had no prejudice towards China and Pakistan.

But you need to wake up and smell reality. Are we expecting some Chinese benevolence to include India in their dealings? Never going to happen!!

Was 1961 not a lesson or should we keep trying to offer our *** to them?

Nobody is including anybody. Pakistan is going nowhere, India is in Afghanistan for long and China is entering the arena. Newcomers do not invite or include others who are there already.
Whole post is based on 1 key thing. As China is entering Afghanistan, They have 2 options. Either work with India, or not work with India.

Now forget Pakistani suicidal perspective. If you look it through Chinese perspective, They need that region to be safe for their trade throgh CAR and then to Europe. And for that they need strategical depth of the players who are already there. Do not look it from Defense or strategic perspective. India and China have a lot of other theaters to mess around, but Afghanistan is the place where both countries need security and peace for better trade route to CAR and Europe. Neglecting India will not give China any materialistic benefit except purring "All weather friend". Instead working with India would help them.

 

[browser]

Nobody is including anybody. Pakistan is going nowhere, India is in Afghanistan for long and China is entering the arena. Newcomers do not invite or include others who are there already.
Whole post is based on 1 key thing. As China is entering Afghanistan, They have 2 options. Either work with India, or not work with India.

Now forget Pakistani suicidal perspective. If you look it through Chinese perspective, They need that region to be safe for their trade throgh CAR and then to Europe. And for that they need strategical depth of the players who are already there. Do not look it from Defense or strategic perspective. India and China have a lot of other theaters to mess around, but Afghanistan is the place where both countries need security and peace for better trade route to CAR and Europe. Neglecting India will not give China any materialistic benefit except purring "All weather friend". Instead working with India would help them.

This whole talk of trade route to CAR seems to be totally blown out of proportions and mainly a Pak ploy to overplay their geographic location.

These are fairly small countries and any trade with them is not going to be significant to move our GDP needle. If they need something we produce, they will find a way to get it there.

Frankly, it is more important for them to have safe passage through AfPak for their oil/gas exports so why do we worry.
Besides the oil and gas companies are either state or US / China owned so India does not really benefit.

And China has one more option wrt Afghanistan and that is to not give a toss. They probably actually prefer that the U.S. is taking care of the mess there and leaving them to focus on other things.

 

[Gazi]

Excuse me, what are you taking credit for?

I wasnt Taking any Credit just saying that if USA doesnt gave too much freehand to India in Afghanistan this mess of Proxification would have happened on the first place.

 

[Thamizh Pride]

Pakistan has brute military and economic influence over Afghanistan
India has some economic influence and some goodwill
China may try to throw in a lot of money to gain some influence but not clear what such influence will get them