Camouflage of indigenousness for nuclear weapons & myth of Indian space programmes.

[Stephen Cohen]

@Stephen Cohen @Jacob Martin

Why did YOU assume that I would consider your BS posts
worthy of a reply

 

[Kamikaze Pilot]

Just three words.."Theory of Relativity"...example.....Lets say you are travelling from Point A to Point B...Is Point B coming to you or Are you going towards point B....Here both are correct, since the earth is rotating and not stationary!

How is it related to the topic? Idiot.

 

[ChennaiDude]

How is it related to the topic? Idiot.

Ask the guy..who tagged me!...An empty tag with no context, will get totally un-related response....So stop quoting/tagging me me again....numbnut!

 

[Kamikaze Pilot]

Bhartis have created a camouflage of indigenousness for their nuclear weapons. They want to send a signal of deterrence because they have a plethora of enemies ranging from Pakistan to USA, China to Sri Lanka, Bangladesh to Myanmar (regarding enmity with USA, elaboration is required for skeptical readers). Bhartis want to say, "Look we are capable of retaliating to your nuclear strikes if need be. So exercise restraint."

Hence they came up with copied or reverse engineered models of rockets to launch their civilian space missions. Using this copied or reverse engineered rocket technology and perhaps even covertly hiring Russian scientists, they launched their Mars mission and Lunar mission. They also use this plagiarized technology to launch commercial satellites for Western countries and charge handsome fees for their services.

Indians don't have a childish mindset. Unlike Americans - who claim to have landed on moon way back in 1969 with primitive computers - Indians don't claim implausible feats although the plausible feats may have been actually done by someone else. They are not given to empty boastings or making fake claims unless there is a compulsion. Here the compelling reason which made it necessary to brag about the borrowed technology is the threat of nuclear war. Indians want to avert nuclear attacks and hence started to show off the space capabilities which actually may have been purchased from all over the world. If the various enemies of India hadn't possessed nukes, Indians wouldn't have bluffed about space achievements. The point they want to convey is: "Since we are capable of making civilian rockets, we are also capable of making effective and functioning nukes. So beware and refrain from using your nukes."

How else would you explain that the country which unabashedly calls the assembly of imported parts as their indigenous plane (reference to Tejas) is able to carry out such above mentioned high-end innovations?

How else would you explain that the country that produces such bad quality software coders/programmers is able to carry out such above mentioned high-end innovations?

How else would you explain that the country that is unable to eradicate basic problem like open-defecation is able to carry out such above mentioned high-end innovations?

How else would you explain that the country that is harassed by a tiny neighbor like Pakistan (relatively speaking Pakistan is tiny) is able to carry out such above mentioned high-end innovations?

@mirage @Mr.Nair

 

[Kamikaze Pilot]

Bhartis have created a camouflage of indigenousness for their nuclear weapons. They want to send a signal of deterrence because they have a plethora of enemies ranging from Pakistan to USA, China to Sri Lanka, Bangladesh to Myanmar (regarding enmity with USA, elaboration is required for skeptical readers). Bhartis want to say, "Look we are capable of retaliating to your nuclear strikes if need be. So exercise restraint."

Hence they came up with copied or reverse engineered models of rockets to launch their civilian space missions. Using this copied or reverse engineered rocket technology and perhaps even covertly hiring Russian scientists, they launched their Mars mission and Lunar mission. They also use this plagiarized technology to launch commercial satellites for Western countries and charge handsome fees for their services.

Indians don't have a childish mindset. Unlike Americans - who claim to have landed on moon way back in 1969 with primitive computers - Indians don't claim implausible feats although the plausible feats may have been actually done by someone else. They are not given to empty boastings or making fake claims unless there is a compulsion. Here the compelling reason which made it necessary to brag about the borrowed technology is the threat of nuclear war. Indians want to avert nuclear attacks and hence started to show off the space capabilities which actually may have been purchased from all over the world. If the various enemies of India hadn't possessed nukes, Indians wouldn't have bluffed about space achievements. The point they want to convey is: "Since we are capable of making civilian rockets, we are also capable of making effective and functioning nukes. So beware and refrain from using your nukes."

How else would you explain that the country which unabashedly calls the assembly of imported parts as their indigenous plane (reference to Tejas) is able to carry out such above mentioned high-end innovations?

How else would you explain that the country that produces such bad quality software coders/programmers is able to carry out such above mentioned high-end innovations?

How else would you explain that the country that is unable to eradicate basic problem like open-defecation is able to carry out such above mentioned high-end innovations?

How else would you explain that the country that is harassed by a tiny neighbor like Pakistan (relatively speaking Pakistan is tiny) is able to carry out such above mentioned high-end innovations?

Another reason for suspicion about India's missile and space programmes:

I have never seen any Indian of extraordinary intelligence in real life. I have only heard or read about Indians of scientist's caliber in media television channels, newspapers, magazines, books etc but never in real life. I have been to many technological universities. But I have never seen any Indian worthy of being called a scientist.

 

[Bharat Muslim]

Another reason for suspicion about India's missile and space programmes:

I have never seen any Indian of extraordinary intelligence in real life. I have only heard or read about Indians of scientist's caliber in media television channels, newspapers, magazines, books etc but never in real life. I have been to many technological universities. But I have never seen any Indian worthy of being called a scientist.

I have the same feeling. All Indians I have seen in real life are so predictable and dull. This shows in the quality of posts by Indians and Mohajirs on PDF. Posts by ethnic Pakistanis are interesting and thrilling to read while those by Indians are mostly repetitive, uninspiring and boring.

 

[Kamikaze Pilot]

Bhartis have created a camouflage of indigenousness for their nuclear weapons. They want to send a signal of deterrence because they have a plethora of enemies ranging from Pakistan to USA, China to Sri Lanka, Bangladesh to Myanmar (regarding enmity with USA, elaboration is required for skeptical readers). Bhartis want to say, "Look we are capable of retaliating to your nuclear strikes if need be. So exercise restraint."

Hence they came up with copied or reverse engineered models of rockets to launch their civilian space missions. Using this copied or reverse engineered rocket technology and perhaps even covertly hiring Russian scientists, they launched their Mars mission and Lunar mission. They also use this plagiarized technology to launch commercial satellites for Western countries and charge handsome fees for their services.

Indians don't have a childish mindset. Unlike Americans - who claim to have landed on moon way back in 1969 with primitive computers - Indians don't claim implausible feats although the plausible feats may have been actually done by someone else. They are not given to empty boastings or making fake claims unless there is a compulsion. Here the compelling reason which made it necessary to brag about the borrowed technology is the threat of nuclear war. Indians want to avert nuclear attacks and hence started to show off the space capabilities which actually may have been purchased from all over the world. If the various enemies of India hadn't possessed nukes, Indians wouldn't have bluffed about space achievements. The point they want to convey is: "Since we are capable of making civilian rockets, we are also capable of making effective and functioning nukes. So beware and refrain from using your nukes."

How else would you explain that the country which unabashedly calls the assembly of imported parts as their indigenous plane (reference to Tejas) is able to carry out such above mentioned high-end innovations?

How else would you explain that the country that produces such bad quality software coders/programmers is able to carry out such above mentioned high-end innovations?

How else would you explain that the country that is unable to eradicate basic problem like open-defecation is able to carry out such above mentioned high-end innovations?

How else would you explain that the country that is harassed by a tiny neighbor like Pakistan (relatively speaking Pakistan is tiny) is able to carry out such above mentioned high-end innovations?

@Juggernaut_is_here

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

@Juggernaut_is_here

Mangalyaan and Chandrayaan have to work only one single time....while Weapons, fighter jets have to be re usable for several times, that too with after withstanding questionable maintenance, hamfisted use by soldiers, harsh environments, varying grades of fuel...The engineering challenge goes an order of magnitude higher


Same reason why China being so super successful in space missions, still cannot produce fighter jet engines or were unable to till the last time I checked


This is also the reason why Ducati makes crappy roadbikes eventhough they build grand prix motorcycles capable of beating Honda and Yamaha in races....race bikes have to work under a specific set of conditions for a specific duration of time, though at much much higher performance enveleope



India's technological capability should be gauged by what level of indigenous sportbikes Indians can build...Indians can build good 250cc air -cooled sport bikes and somewhat okay 250cc water-cooled sport bikes

Chinese on the other hand can build 650cc water cooled twin-cylinder sportybikes.....they are not strictly sportbikes though and can be compared to 400cc pure sport bikes

I am talking of strictly sport bikes or in other words supersport bikes

India-----------------------------250cc level
China----------------------------400cc level (actaully CF Moto 650cc twin comparable to 400cc supersport)
Japan---------------------------1000cc level
Whites--------------------------1300cc Level (Ducati Hyperleggera)

 

[EndangeredSpecies]

can Anyone summarize what this thread is talking about..?????

Nothing. Some random Muslim in Bharat failed his SSC exam. Again. So he is venting his frustration on a Pakistani defence forum. Again. Just to repeat this whole process in coming six or so months..... Again

 

[nair]

This probably the best analysis I have seen a long time in an Opening Post..... Wonderful!!!!!

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

This probably the best analysis I have seen a long time in an Opening Post..... Wonderful!!!!!

were you referring to the post of @Bharat Muslim or mine?

 

[nair]

were you referring to the post of @Bharat Muslim or mine?

I said the opening post.... Do not remember the poster (first post of this thread)

 

[Bharat Muslim]

Another reason for suspicion about India's missile and space programmes:

I have never seen any Indian of extraordinary intelligence in real life. I have only heard or read about Indians of scientist's caliber in media television channels, newspapers, magazines, books etc but never in real life. I have been to many technological universities. But I have never seen any Indian worthy of being called a scientist.

Take the case of this major engineering college in South India. It is closely associated with a polytechnic college because both colleges are owned and run by the same private management. Whenever there is a defect in any computer of polytechnic college, with great grandeur it is sent to engineering college for repair. The folks at engineering college in turn send the defective computer to commercial hardware servicing providers. They can't do the repairs by themselves. So much for India's reputation.

 

[Kamikaze Pilot]

Bhartis have created a camouflage of indigenousness for their nuclear weapons. They want to send a signal of deterrence because they have a plethora of enemies ranging from Pakistan to USA, China to Sri Lanka, Bangladesh to Myanmar (regarding enmity with USA, elaboration is required for skeptical readers). Bhartis want to say, "Look we are capable of retaliating to your nuclear strikes if need be. So exercise restraint."

Hence they came up with copied or reverse engineered models of rockets to launch their civilian space missions. Using this copied or reverse engineered rocket technology and perhaps even covertly hiring Russian scientists, they launched their Mars mission and Lunar mission. They also use this plagiarized technology to launch commercial satellites for Western countries and charge handsome fees for their services.

Indians don't have a childish mindset. Unlike Americans - who claim to have landed on moon way back in 1969 with primitive computers - Indians don't claim implausible feats although the plausible feats may have been actually done by someone else. They are not given to empty boastings or making fake claims unless there is a compulsion. Here the compelling reason which made it necessary to brag about the borrowed technology is the threat of nuclear war. Indians want to avert nuclear attacks and hence started to show off the space capabilities which actually may have been purchased from all over the world. If the various enemies of India hadn't possessed nukes, Indians wouldn't have bluffed about space achievements. The point they want to convey is: "Since we are capable of making civilian rockets, we are also capable of making effective and functioning nukes. So beware and refrain from using your nukes."

How else would you explain that the country which unabashedly calls the assembly of imported parts as their indigenous plane (reference to Tejas) is able to carry out such above mentioned high-end innovations?

How else would you explain that the country that produces such bad quality software coders/programmers is able to carry out such above mentioned high-end innovations?

How else would you explain that the country that is unable to eradicate basic problem like open-defecation is able to carry out such above mentioned high-end innovations?

How else would you explain that the country that is harassed by a tiny neighbor like Pakistan (relatively speaking Pakistan is tiny) is able to carry out such above mentioned high-end innovations?

Some people want to know the truth. But trusting media or internet is not the way. Not even foreign media and 'certificate award' organisations like 'The Nobel Prize Foundation' because some communities have their own racist agenda of hyping the mediocre and running down genuine talent. For instance, how else would you explain the controversial awarding of Nobel Prize to Obama when he had just become president and had not even started his career? Also Western institutions are susceptible to bribery by intelligence agencies which helps their security interests.

Hence informal chatting with someone who has been to ground zero and has worked in actual technical industries can throw more authentic light. For instance, if Indian space programme is good, they should also be able to produce good quality Air Conditioners and copper tubes.

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[xyxmt]

You didn't get him. He is saying that although Indians did the Mars and lunar mission, they didn't do it by designing their own technology but by paying money to purchase/smuggle technology from Russia.

everyone knows it, no need to open a thread