Buddhism - Declined or Brutalized in the land of its birth?

[padamchen]

The very fact that Buddhism Failed in India is because people could NOT relate to it

Nope.

It was killed and driven out.

Systematically down the ages.

Nothing benign about that.

Now culled to a fringe faith, it's brother Dharmic time.

Cheers, Doc

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

Buddhism does not need a Creator...That was the genius of the Buddha...a precursor to modern Scientific Atheism...Buddhism is different from any other philosophical system you know with the possible exception of Scientific Materialism

 

[Stephen Cohen]

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Fair enough, you need High IQ for that

Hinduism cannot exist without soul. Buddha rejects totally the existence of the soul..The gaps between Jainism and Hinduism are bridgeable.............But Buddha's ideas were too much of a stretch for contemporary Brahmanism and still is for modern Hinduism

Why do Buddhists Believe in Karma and RE birth if there is No Soul

 

[ashok mourya]

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Fair enough, you need High IQ for that

Hinduism cannot exist without soul. Buddha rejects totally the existence of the soul..The gaps between Jainism and Hinduism are bridgeable.............But Buddha's ideas were too much of a stretch for contemporary Brahmanism and still is for modern Hinduism

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gautama_Buddha_in_Hinduism

 

[Stephen Cohen]

Nope.

It was killed and driven out.

Systematically down the ages.

Nothing benign about that.

Now culled to a fringe faith, it's brother Dharmic time.

Cheers, Doc

It was BS to Begin with

So dull and lifeless ; without Joy ; colour ; Hope

We prefer our GODS with Multiple ARMS And carrying Weapons of mass destruction

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

@ashok mourya

Posting links won't change the fact that there are other Wikipedia articles that clearly point out that there are unbridgeable distinctions between Hinduism and Buddhism..chief among them from Buddhist side--rejection of Creator God, rejection of soul, rejection of caste system, complete rejection of Vedas, rejection of Yagyas and sacrifices

Why do Buddhists Believe in Karma and RE birth if there is No Soul

Buddhism is not about belief..It's about experience..Buddhism talks about rebirth NOT reincarnation....reincarnation is the same soul going through different lives and bodies...

Rebirth is about the changing nature of the self from moment to moment....as if each moment is a NEW rebirth


These things are beyond the scope of this thread and beyond the assimilation capability of Hinduism..Let's leave it at that

 

[ashok mourya]

@ashok mourya

Posting links won't change the fact that there are other Wikipedia articles that clearly point out that there are unbridgeable distinctions between Hinduism and Buddhism..chief among them from Buddhist side--rejection of Creator God, rejection of soul, rejection of caste system, complete rejection of Vedas, rejection of Yagyas and sacrifices




Buddhism is not about belief..It's about experience..Buddhism talks about rebirth NOT reincarnation....reincarnation is the same soul going through different lives and bodies...

Rebirth is about the changing nature of the self from moment to moment....as if each moment is a NEW rebirth


These things are beyond the scope of this thread and beyond the assimilation capability of Hinduism..Let's leave it at that

Lol..arya samaj too have similar views on religion .....are they not Hindus...Hinduism is not one book or one god religion...anything good for humanity we accept it to our way of life that is Hinduism.

 

[saiyan0321]

Buddhism does not need a Creator...That was the genius of the Buddha...a precursor to modern Scientific Atheism...Buddhism is different from any other philosophical system you know with the possible exception of Scientific Materialism

Buddha infact did not like religious discussions and was also not for discussions on beginning or end of the world. He considered them like "the jundedc desert, the puppet-show the writhing, the entanglement of speculation" and was not bothered for it. His entire concept was ethical and emphasis was placed on conduct and yes he was very anti caste system and hated it.

Infact according to his teachings that saintliness and contentment was to he found not in the knowledge of the universe and God but in selfless and virtuous.

Infact due to this to call bhudhism a religious is up for discussion bcz bhudhism was more a way of life. Religion deals with diety and dieties based on faith or revelations but bhudhism was based on ethics and virtue of a person and his struggle in life for contentment. One can argue that it was a way of life.


Well I often avoid such topics. People are too personal about it.

Also welcome to the forum you seem a great addition. Keep posting.

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

Buddha infact did not like religious discussions and was also not for discussions on beginning or end of the world. He considered them like "the jundedc desert, the puppet-show the writhing, the entanglement of speculation" and was not bothered for it. His entire concept was ethical and emphasis was placed on conduct and yes he was very anti caste system and hated it.

Infact according to his teachings that saintliness and contentment was to he found not in the knowledge of the universe and God but in selfless and virtuous.

Infact due to this to call bhudhism a religious is up for discussion bcz bhudhism was more a way of life. Religion deals with diety and dieties based on faith or revelations but bhudhism was based on ethics and virtue of a person and his struggle in life for contentment. One can argue that it was a way of life.


Well I often avoid such topics. People are too personal about it.

Also welcome to the forum you seem a great addition. Keep posting.

Thanks for the kind words, I am thrilled with your interest in Buddhism..Its always nice to find a kindred spirit

 

[ashok mourya]

There is NOTHING like the concept of Anatta in Hinduism...There is nothing like Vipassana in Hinduism..only Anapanasati...


There is nothing like the concept of moment-to-moment rebirth in Hinduism

Buddha had probably 30 points higher IQ than any of his contemporaries or anybody who preceded him

That's not annatta ..its Ananta means infinity...

 

[Stephen Cohen]

anything good for humanity we accept it to our way of life that is Hinduism.

Hinduism never preaches anything or makes anything compulsory

It is all about freedom and choice

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

That's not annatta ..its Ananta means infinity...

Shows your ignorance.....Anatta is the Pali for An-Atma (Non-Self Concept) it has nothing to do with Ananta which is infinity...Anyways Buddha heavily discouraged speculation regarding Eternity cum Infinity

 

[ashok mourya]

Shows your ignorance.....Anatta is the Pali for An-Atma (Non-Self Concept) it has nothing to do with Ananta which is infinity...Anyways Buddha heavily discouraged speculation regarding Eternity cum Infinity

Not every thing written wiki is correct.You are missoquoting Atman..means soul...

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

Lol..arya samaj too have similar views on religion .....are they not Hindus...Hinduism is not one book or one god religion...anything good for humanity we accept it to our way of life that is Hinduism.

Well then why did Hinduism reject Charvaka/Lokayata then? They are pure atheistic, amoral,scientific materialist philosophies...You can stretch Hinduism only so much before it stops being Hinduism


Please donot confuse amoral with immoral

Not every thing written wiki is correct.You are missoquoting Atman..means soul...

Stop preaching...I am a practicing Buddhist..I know what my Teachings say

 

[Joe Shearer]

@jbgt90

Look at the contrast above between an incredibly ill-equipped member (subtle pun intended) and Our Lordship of Puri. It is this that prevents me from taking an axe to him.