Buddhism and Ashoka responsible for India's decline and hardships

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

The DNA composition of country is not my type of topic, but what he said have some truth to it, the people who star in Bollywood movies obviously have different DNA from the masses that watch them. I thought this thread was about the the impact of religions on India's development. Why DNA became the topic?

Some genius is trying to troll by saying that Chinese DNA is from mongol but when they look at themselves into the mirror, the difference from Bollywood Indians and those normal Indians are so obvious ,their DNA different are so visible...they sure knew theses whity DNA pool were from.

 

[Joe Shearer]

The DNA composition of country is not my type of topic, but what he said have some truth to it, the people who star in Bollywood movies obviously have different DNA from the masses that watch them. I thought this thread was about the the impact of religions on India's development. Why DNA became the topic?

On topic, it is not the Buddhism that hinders India's delay in nation building, but it is the concept of "Karma" that has the biggest negative impact. Based my limited knowledge, people who believe in "Karma" tend to be lazy in this life, thinking they have "next life" to do better. Correct me if I am wrong.

A slight re-orientation.

This thread was initiated by a hero who was sitting around at home with nothing to do, so started a thread. Having had nothing to do, he dug up an old canard, that the Emperor Asoka was in fact a major cause of Indian debility, and that his introduction of Buddhism brought about the failure of the Indian will to win, or to resist foreign invasions.

This is such a stupid view of history and of sociology that it really deserves nothing. However, my reason to tag you was to draw your attention to an extremely silly series of posts by a Chinese member's half baked and totally ignorant interventions.

 

[DesiGuy1403]

The contributor of this gem is clearly an ill-educated fanboy and a bhakt. Disregard his pathetic comment and tell us what YOU think.

Incredibly rational answer
*slow clap*

Did anyone ask us bhakths OUR opinion.
Classic case of Mani Iyer syndrome.

For record, the author is stupid and myopic. He belongs in the same category of Christian Kanchi Ilayya, who released book linking beef eating to India loosing in sports...I wonder what kind of "Bhakths" are the Christians of India. Oh wait, isn't generalization bad?
It is wrong, but not when you are targeting Bhakths, right?

That morons are there in every section is apparent to even semi-educated. Looks like some extra-educated members deliberately ignore it and rationalize their bias by generalizing.

What a pity!

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

A slight re-orientation.

This thread was initiated by a hero who was sitting around at home with nothing to do, so started a thread. Having had nothing to do, he dug up an old canard, that the Emperor Asoka was in fact a major cause of Indian debility, and that his introduction of Buddhism brought about the failure of the Indian will to win, or to resist foreign invasions.

This is such a stupid view of history and of sociology that it really deserves nothing. However, my reason to tag you was to draw your attention to an extremely silly series of posts by a Chinese member's half baked and totally ignorant interventions.

Mega lol....you can't argue with me and call me ignorant

 

[HeinzG]

Read about Chola empire, How Indians conquered most of the parts of South East Asia.

Also India conquered China through cultural invasion!

And also read about how India lost for Sinhalese.

 

[Sky lord]

Based my limited knowledge, people who believe in "Karma" tend to be lazy in this life, thinking they have "next life" to do better. Correct me if I am wrong.

You are wrong and you should keep your ignorant, racist generalizations to yourself in future.

 

[Dungeness]

Surprised you think the tagged user is in position to judge, considering he used a Chinese racial slur for Pakistanis on Indians here.

You have been lying the same lie too many times trying to defame me and instigate a bad feeling between Pakistanis and Chinese. I will explain it again here, and if you continue to spread the same lie about me, I will report you for "lying with an evil intention". The issue has been resolved half a year ago. Just don't understand why you have to keep resorting to lies.

The particular term you are referring to, if even considered as a "slur", was meant for Indian. There is NO any "slur" in China for people of Pakistan. Every Chinese member here can verify my statement here. If you want and if PDF allows, I can tell you the the history of the term, and you decide if it is racial slur.

@Chinese-Dragon

 

[HeinzG]

Tell me what do you think Buddhist majority regions like Afghanistan, Central Asia, East Turkestan and most of Pakistan not only succumbed to the Muslim invasion but easily converted in whole scale to Islam but India in spite of over 650 years of Islamic rule did not?

Geography is the most simplest answer. Countries like Afghanistan, Central Asia, East Turkestan are arid deserts with sparse population concentrated in a small pocket of cities. Whereas India was a different kind of geographical challenge for the invaders. First thing was the sheer size of the subcontinent. Therefore they had to move slowly from place to place. I think that is why the progress of Islam was slow in India.

Muslim armies had huge successes in the open fields where their light cavalry for the maximum advantage. But when faced with disadvantageous situations they have lost.

 

[Dandpatta]

My 2 cents on Korea. Largely a Buddhist / Confucianist nation but post war, thanks to widespread Evangelical spread, today, almost entire cities have crosses atop residential roof-tops. The tenet of Buddhism is that of compassion, inclusivity, detachment, forgiveness.

 

[HeinzG]

Can you imagine a society which has a total population of Monks living on alms

That is not Buddhism. Buddhism doesn't require the entire population to become monks. The sangha (monk order) needs the laymen to survive.

The lack of the defense of Indian borders were mistake of the then rulers of India. It has nothing to do with Buddhism.

 

[Dungeness]

You are wrong and you should keep your ignorant, racist generalizations to yourself in future.

There is NOTHING racist in my post.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

You have been lying the same lie too many times trying to defame me and instigate a bad feeling between Pakistanis and Chinese. I will explain it again here, and if you continue to spread the same lie about me, I will report you for "lying with an evil intention". The issue has been resolved half a year ago. Just don't understand why you have to keep resorting to lies.

The particular term you are referring to, if even considered as a "slur", was meant for Indian. There is NO any "slur" in China for people of Pakistan. Every Chinese member here can verify my statement here. If you want and if PDF allows, I can tell you the the history of the term, and you decide if it is racial slur.

@Chinese-Dragon

it's not the first time nor the last time that these Indians are tempting to defame and instigate a bad feeling between Pakistanis and Chinese especially by using the Islam issue.

 

[Sky lord]

There is NOTHING racist in my post.

It is highly offensive nonetheless, especially to those poor souls who wake up at dawn every morning to do back breaking labor all day , every day, to keep body and karmic soul together.

It is offensive to all those shopkeepers who keep their shops open every day of the week, the doctors who work 72 hours without a break, software engineers who make their days Into nights, the maids, farmers, school teachers, students .


You really think that all Hindus are lazy because they believe in karma? Shame on you and shame on those that ignored your statement.

 

[Dungeness]

It is highly offensive nonetheless, especially to those poor souls who wake up at dawn every morning to do back breaking labor all day , every day, to keep body and karmic soul together.

It is offensive to all those shopkeepers who keep their shops open every day of the week, the doctors who work 72 hours without a break, software engineers who make their days Into nights, the maids, farmers, school teachers, students .


You really think that all Hindus are lazy because they believe in karma? Shame on you and shame on those that ignored your statement.

This is an international forum, and the topic is about the religious impact on Indian's development. Every member can express his personal opinion. I have no particular religion is mind when the term "Karma" was used, as the term "after live" or "next live" could be used for the same purpose, so please don't use Hindu in place all other regions that believe in "after life". I did say "tend to", which of course effectively excludes a hard working person like you.

My personal opinion may sound "offensive" to you, but it maybe "intellectually stimulating" to others. So please don't force others think like you. After all, this is what democracy is all about.

 

[Manas]

They are several attempt of Indian empire going on the offensive, however none of them were long term efforts.

For example: Mauryan takeover Afghanistan and parts of Iran and Central Asia, while expelling the Greeks

No effort was made to expand further.

After the Kalinga war , Ashok adopted Buddhist life and renounced violence and stopped any further war or expansion of Maurayan empire .

What ever the truth , Buddhist principle of non violence did curb expansion tendencies especially among Buddhist rulers and also general populous had huge change in life style .

Hi

Though I'm not an authority on this subject but It seems that there is a positive correlation in what is stated.

Sure, One shouldn't criticize any religion but if a religion ignores the whole society and ignores the whole Nation in pursuit of Individual Nirvana then that religion is definitely not meant for the Rulers.

Can you imagine a society which has a total population of Monks living on alms

The first successful Islamic invader to Indian subcontinent was Muhammad bin Qasim who invaded Sindh where large section of the population were Buddhists , who were indifferent in fighting for King Dahir of Sindh who was hindu . And end result was complete wipe out of any trace of Buddism from Sindh in just few decades .

The hindus of Sindh and Balochistan are still around today while there is no trace of Sindhi Buddhists who are now either mostly Muslims through conversion or simply adopted back in to the Hindu fold .