BRICS Emerges as the World's Largest GDP Bloc, Overtaking G7, Propelled by China's Rapid Expansion

[Communism]

Russia got India in, to make sure China doesn't dominate these groupings in a one sided way. China got Pakistan in, to play the so called counter balancer.

China would have wanted Pakistan in the Shanghai Cooperation Organization in any case.

 

[beijingwalker]

China needs to get India out of BRICS and SCO, India serves US and west interests in these two groups

 

[indushek]

China needs to get India out of BRICS and SCO, India serves US and west interests in these two groups

I don't think China will do that

 

[jhungary]

The news is actually wrong, BRICS is not the biggest Economic Pact on earth, the biggest is NAFTA (North America Free Trade Agreement)

This is basically forming a free trade zone between US, Canada and Mexico.

 

[ARMalik]

The news is actually wrong, BRICS is not the biggest Economic Pact on earth, the biggest is NAFTA (North America Free Trade Agreement)

This is basically forming a free trade zone between US, Canada and Mexico.

So free trading zone between US, Canada and Mexico is the biggest in the World?? You really need to get your basics right dude. You are hilarious.

 

[StraightEdge]

I don't think China will do that

It doesn't look like India itself wants to be part of SCO. The SCO itself has a security part attached to it, why would India want to associate with a group headed by China which has security as a parameter? It was obvious when India hosted a virtual summit and barely made any effort to give importance to SCO. India being in both QUAD (US camp) and SCO (China camp) is not feasible. I have seen enough rambling from Chinese posters in social media that they also think the same way.

Virtual summit, virtual silence - The Hindu

 

[jhungary]

So free trading zone between US, Canada and Mexico is the biggest in the World?? You really need to get your basics right dude. You are hilarious.

Well, you probably need to get the basic economic fact right. 2022 Data from world bank

https://databankfiles.worldbank.org/public/ddpext_download/GDP.pdf

US GDP

Canada GDP

Mexico GDP

The 3 put together = 25.4 + 2.1 + 1.4 = 28.9 Trillions

China GDP

India GDP

Russia GDP

Brazil GDP

South Africa GDP

Together it's 17.9 + 3.3 + 2.2 + 1.9 + 0.4 = 25.7 Trillions

Now you tell me which one is greater? 28.9 Trillion or 25.7 Trillions?

 

[indushek]

It doesn't look like India itself wants to be part of SCO. The SCO itself has a security part attached to it, why would India want to associate with a group headed by China which has security as a parameter? It was obvious when India hosted a virtual summit and barely made any effort to give importance to SCO. India being in both QUAD (US camp) and SCO (China camp) is not feasible. I have seen enough rambling from Chinese posters in social media that they also think the same way.

Virtual summit, virtual silence - The Hindu

I will differ with that observation

SCO's goals if you check, are regional cooperation in multiple fields. Security cooperation was deliberately kept aside, or let us say never mentioned overtly to make sure USA wasn't going to be feel threatened.

India joined SCO to make sure Russia didn't intertwine itself with China completely, and Russia proposed India to make sure China didn't dominate this org. It is a win win

The virtual summit is a result of multiple things, and has come about due to recent geo political developments. Indo Chinese relations weren't this bad till Galwan, and we became a full member of SCO in 2017. So we can't think about this in current scenario only, and don't forget even today most of our spares are dependent on Russia. So we have to make sure, Russia doesn't get too dependent on China.

Let us also not forget that, other than China SCO has members from Central Asia and Russia too. Unless China declares us as a enemy openly, and demands to push us out we will not be moving out of SCO.

The rumblings of Chinese is nothing new, and they will go quiet once CCP tells them to. The more important signal that needs to come, is from Xi and CCP. As of now they aren't sure how to deal with India. They have tried to see how far they can push us, by doing Galwan and over played their hand. It was supposed to be a signal, to say don't cozy up too much with West. In addition to this, they also wanted to externalize the pandemic by whipping up war sentiment. It backfired as we jumped headlong into a sort of alliance kind agreement with USA.

China already has too much on its plate, vis a vis support to Russia in Ukraine and growing support of US to Taiwan. IF they push us out of SCO, its a clear message that we are the enemy. The very idea of BRICS will collapse, if they push us away from any multilateral orgs that we are members of along with them. How many fronts are they going to deal with?

As to why we should be part of the orgs? Relations with China haven't deteriorated to the level that we should get out for one. Secondly depending on the West completely, is never a wise idea. In a way by staying in SCO or BRICS, we keep the ball in China's court as to what their next moves are. Time will tell of how they may choose

 

[etylo]

The rumblings of Chinese is nothing new, and they will go quiet once CCP tells them to. The more important signal that needs to come, is from Xi and CCP.

Keep your delusions, this shows how much you Indians understand China and Chinese at large.

 

[indushek]

Keep your delusions, this shows how much you Indians understand China and Chinese at large.

Of all that I wrote, if you found that as delusion .. there isn't much to be said. Now please don't tell me that, Chinese can overturn what the CCP leave aside Xi says.

 

[Communism]

Of all that I wrote, if you found that as delusion .. there isn't much to be said. Now please don't tell me that, Chinese can overturn what the CCP leave aside Xi says.

Xi has made every single effort since even before Modi was selected to be Prime Minister by the United States.


All of those things that you pretend are due to China are simply the reaction to the actual initiation by Modi on orders from the U.S.


India is literally never covered in Chinese media at all.


When they are covered, it has been to tout their potential positive role in the new emerging Multi-Polar world.


Modi being a U.S. puppet simply becomes more and more clear every single year he has been in office.


India's bad habit of blaming others for their own actions is the reason that India has bad relations with nearly every single neighbor and continues to do so to this day, with the same predictable results.


Indians simply lie about everything, to everyone, even themselves.


This makes them unpredictable, since India is not a fact-based society and Indians do not have a fact-based culture.


Indians will always follow their colonial masters in all things, though they like to pretend to be independent for domestic audience propaganda.


India has the exact same impulse as the United States to both be a bad actor and then project that reality onto everyone else.


While every other country is trying it's hardest not to be "The Next Ukraine", India is trying it's hardest to be "The Next Ukraine".


The actual reality of the situation could not be clearer to any objective external observer.


India has always pretended to be both an Anglo-Saxon power as well as the "Successor State" of the British Empire.


This extremely warped worldview is what has led India to its current role as permanent U.S. proxy and designated cannon fodder.

 

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

without "C" there is no BRICS

Frankly speaking China is behaving like an idiot.

All the nations in BRICS except China are loser nations.

Russia and India will get balkanized shortly.

Brazil is a shill of the West.

South Africa is loser and winer nation who got into BRICS just becuase they are black.

China should desolve BRICS immediately and replace it with PICS (Pakistan, Iran, China, Saudi Arabia)

 

[Communism]

Frankly speaking China is behaving like an idiot.

All the nations in BRICS except China are loser nations.

Russia and India will get balkanized shortly.

Brazil is a shill of the West.

South Africa is loser and winer nation who got into BRICS just becuase they are black.

China should desolve BRICS immediately and replace it with PICS (Pakistan, Iran, China, Saudi Arabia)

BRICS and SCO are not really supposed to be about bloc politics at all.


They are both mostly focused on trade and trying to bypass western coercion.


It's not a military alliance, so weakness makes no real difference.


China did not abandon the Soviet Union even after it was broken apart.


China has good relations with Russia and Ukraine.


The problem with India is that it is literally shouting from the rooftops begging to become a U.S. proxy targeted directly at China.

 

[FuturePAF]

without "C" there is no BRICS

Indeed, it would just be RIBS. The “C” puts meat on the bones of this grouping.

 

[BHAN85]

BRICS is a pejorative term, invented by Western economists, like PIGS.

BRICS sounds like BRICKS. And USA is the architect.

But BRICS members are ****** and they didnt aware of it.

They can't even choose their own name, and they copied the pejorative joke names that Western economists invented to call them.

Funny!