Breaking news: AirAsia plane missing with 162 passengers!

[acetophenol]

Nothing to do with Malaysia.



Nothing to do with Malaysia.



Air Asia is one of the most profitable Loco around. They have numerous subsidiaries in other ountries.

Air Asia Indonesia is one of their subsidiaries HOWEVER, it is not 100% owned and IMPORTANTLY, the point that most here are missing is that it is operated on a SEPARATE INDONESIAN operating certificate



Poor people, most weren't Malays.



You can't be very old then.



Nothing to do with Malaysia.



Separate operation. Nothing to do with Malaysia.



Nothing to do with Malaysia.



Nothing to do with Malaysia.



No worse than India.



Nothing to do with Malaysia.



Normal for South East Asia.



That's regularly the case. Nothing abnormal today or out of the ordinary.



Ha.



Ha ha.



Flight plans change all the time especially when there are CBs to navigate around. Indonesian SAR should concentrate on last known position from radar feeds. To their credit, this is what they're doing.



Nonsense man.



Actually you're wrong. Most stalls in civil aircraft are relatively benign and easily recoverable.

For example, when the Air France A330 (AF447) stalled, the pilots still had lateral (and pitch) control.



Stalls and hydraulic failures are independent.

Every stall report I've read, whether it be Air France 447, Bergenair 757 or just a Cessna 152, hydraulics are working.



Too simplistic to look at stall in terms of airspeed and (to put it bluntly), it is incorrect to do so.

Read up on angle of attack.



Especially Indonesia.

This was a PK registered aircraft which means it was flying on the Indonesian aircraft register and under Indonesian regulatory oversight.

AirAsia is a Malayasian based airlines if I am not wrong

AirAsia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Jango]

I said it many times , the 2 Engine Boeing and Airbus planes are not safe ..... for flights over sea
and these accidents happening are proof ,that these planes are UNDEPENDABLE

Why were there less accidents before , simple planes had 4 engines , if 1 failed the 3 engines carried the plane safely to airports

Now with just 2 engines , the planes juts go down

Sad but its reality

Boeing and Airbus planes are not safe

With old models there were less crashes , mainly in 10-12 years you would hear of 1 crash
but the new planes are falling like fireflies every next year after the 3-4 year warranty is done

AirAsia is a Malayasian based airlines if I am not wrong

AirAsia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There are different associate carriers of AirAsia Malaysia, with the Indonesian one being one of them.

 

[imiakhtar]

If the side stick were mechanically joined, the pitch could have been noticed by the captain.

He didn't need to look at the sidesticks.
He could have looked at the PFD if he wanted to know what the pitch attitude was. And he did.

I saw in the documentary, and they said, Vario was not available.

That's your problem.

Why don't you rely on official sources?

If you want to have a serious debate with me, read the BEA report first here:

BEA - Bureau d'Enquêtes et d'Analyses pour la sécurité de l'aviation civile

or watch the animation here which may be easier for you.

I said it many times , the 2 Engine Boeing and Airbus planes are not safe ..... for flights over sea
and these accidents happening are proof ,that these planes are UNDEPENDABLE

Why were there less accidents before , simple planes had 4 engines , if 1 failed the 3 engines carried the plane safely to airports

Now with just 2 engines , the planes juts go down

Sad but its reality

Boeing and Airbus planes are not safe

With old models there were less crashes , mainly in 10-12 years you would hear of 1 crash
but the new planes are falling like fireflies every next year after the 3-4 year warranty is done

This is a joke.

You are an embarrassment.

If a country loses three airliners in 1 year, shouldn't the regulatory body, the laws governing the aviation of the country and the administrators of that country be questioned?

The MH370 disaster is is still unknown. What happened, we will never know perhaps.

The MH17 disaster was avoidable. Malaysian Airlines to save some money was taking a shorter route over Ukraine when most of the airlines were avoiding the airspace of that country.

And now this!

Those who say nothing to do with Malaysia are perhaps right. But when was the last time that a country lost 2 or more planes in year? no conspiracy theory just hard questions.

Are you illiterate?

Honest question.

It seems you've just ignored my previous postings where I explain how Air Asia Indonesia is operated under Indonesian regulatory authorities, not Malaysian.

This incident has nothing to do with Malaysia.

Lastly, where MH17 was concerned, PIA was flying over that part of the Ukraine in the run up to the shoot down too as were most other airlines.

Also, instead of looking at the number of accidents per given year, perhaps you should look at number of accidents per x hours flown.

If you did, you would find Pakistan close to the bottom of the list.

No, the ratio of planes in the air to planes falling down has only decreased with time.

Correct.

But isn't it possible to nose dive and gain some speed and then pull the aircraft upward to reduce the falling speed and get some forward acceleration,

Read up on angle of attack.

 

[airmarshal]

This incident has nothing to do with Malaysia.

Lastly, where MH17 was concerned, PIA was flying over that part of the Ukraine in the run up to the shoot down too as were most other airlines.

Also, instead of looking at the number of accidents per given year, perhaps you should look at number of accidents per x hours flown.

If you did, you would find Pakistan close to the bottom of the list.

Before you trash everyone, please look upfor Air Asia on google. Its a Malaysian airline

AirAsia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Connect With Us | AirAsia

Also, PIA might at the bottom of the list as its slowly becoming a regional/local airline instead of international as it used to be. If PIA did not have accidents, its sheer luck. Nothing to write about the quality of service and the professionalism has also dwindled due to too much political interference.

 

[imiakhtar]

Before you trash everyone, please look upfor Air Asia on google. Its a Malaysian airline

AirAsia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That's Air Asia Malaysia, not Indonesia:

On 1 December 2005, Awair changed its name to Indonesia AirAsia in line with the other AirAsia branded airlines in the region. AirAsia Berhad has a 49% share in the airline with Fersindo Nusaperkasa owning 51%. Indonesia's laws disallow majority foreign ownership on domestic civil aviation operations.

Indonesia AirAsia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If Virgin America or Virgin Australia were to have an incident tomorrow, it would bear no relation to the operation activities of Virgin Atlantic is the point I'm trying to make.

Each affiliate (which is what Thai AirAsia, Indonesia etc are) have their own management and operate under separate regulatory jurisdictions with their respective countries overseeing their ops.

It is the responsibility of the Indonesian CAA equivalent to ensure Air Asia Indonesia meets all the necessary approvals.

Hopefully, this puts the issue to rest and the Malaysia bash fest ceases.

 

[gambit]

We are waiting for the loony conspiracy theorists who inevitably will show 'proof' that the US military shot down AirAsia QZ8501.

 

[Basel]

We are waiting for the loony conspiracy theorists who inevitably will show 'proof' that the US military shot down AirAsia QZ8501.

Why in 21st century when so many monitoring satellites, radars and other systems are available and deployed, these planes get lost? It looks like we are still in early 70s in terms of monitoring a airliner or someone don't want world to know what happened to those Malaysian planes?

 

[gambit]

Why in 21st century when so many monitoring satellites, radars and other systems are available and deployed, these planes get lost? It looks like we are still in early 70s in terms of monitoring a airliner or someone don't want world to know what happened to those Malaysian planes?

And so it begins...

 

[Basel]

@gambit even jets have tracking devices in them, like engines sent back details so why their position can not be located?

 

[firestorm77]

 

[gambit]

@gambit even jets have tracking devices in them, like engines sent back details so why their position can not be located?

Not all jets have monitoring systems, and even the ones that do, it is the contents of the data that matters. If all the monitoring system does is record aircraft states and even transmit them in real time, it does not mean we know precisely where the aircraft went down. Water blocks radio transmissions, did you know that ? People looking at maps often have the wrong perspective of how large the seas really are. When aircrafts crashed on land, it can take days for the wreckage to be located, even if the emergency beacon was detected, and if the crash is in the jungle, the vegetation canopy can literally cover up the crash site even when view from the air. But now we are talking about the water.

This is not a Hollywood movie special effects event. If the entertainment industry sticks to real laws of physics and real world experience, movies would be very boring.

 

[Selous]

Why does this feel like some sort of conspiracy against Malaysia ? Does anybody have any good conspiracy theories...please share

 

[Schutz]

Why in 21st century when so many monitoring satellites, radars and other systems are available and deployed, these planes get lost? It looks like we are still in early 70s in terms of monitoring a airliner or someone don't want world to know what happened to those Malaysian planes?

Do you not realise how big our planet is compared to a plane and even if they could accurately track something over vast oceans it will be pretty hard to tell where it goes when its 30,000 feet in the sky and changing directions, im sure they will find this within a day or two though.

 

[Shot-Caller]

This is weird.

 

[ranjeet]

Did they find the wreckage this time? People deserve proper last rite.