BREAKING!!! Half of US troops to leave Afghanistan by May 1: Taliban

[TheUndertaker]

imagine Pakistan stating concerns about people in manipur and assam

i guess you don't have the videos on facebook, i'd share it but i don't want to get banned. People not allowed to go to certain areas in their own land?

we wont be having any other option but to interfere in afghan affairs. your govt and forces are too incapable and corrupt to control your country and poverty is there so the locals will be more inclined to work for RAW for getting some money in return for their "namak harami". if your govt and military stops working for indian interests against pak and controls your country well we dont need to interfere in your country at all.

If you stop interfering we'll stop supporting anti pakistan elements, I mean if we were to really hurt you, it would have been in 65,71 war against India. But like fools, we stood by you, tricked by the umah crap. But like I said what goes around comes around.

 

[Tokhme khar]

Iran will never part take in interethnic conflict among people who are basically Persian. It will be a stupid thing to do. However, if we smell wahabbi or CIA shit anywhere, then Iran will intervene, in concert with both Russia/ China. So far we have minimal interest in Afghanistan. Talibs are now talking about educating their women and cutting down on their past primitive behaviors. This is a good first step.

Iran follows a similar policy viz a viz Armenia/ Azeri conflict. We don't pick sides. Its foolish to do that.

 

[AbuzarIlyas]

I can sure say the same for the Baloch brothers PTM and TTP.

You are already saying this and promoting your narrative. Atleast you should have enough courage to stand for what you are supporting!

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Let us give some time for the situation to evolve and become evident.

The strategy seems to be for Pakistan to give its assurances that the region will not be used for an attack on USA again and for them to take over their traditional influence again. USA seems to be inclined in this direction, but with certain safeguards to be built into the system, and those are being worked out.

The more the safeguards for the USA the better for Pak...

 

[VCheng]

The more the safeguards for the USA the better for Pak...

The sooner this is wrapped up, the sooner Pakistan's economy can be rescued.

 

[ziaulislam]

i guess you don't have the videos on facebook, i'd share it but i don't want to get banned. People not allowed to go to certain areas in their own land?



If you stop interfering we'll stop supporting anti pakistan elements, I mean if we were to really hurt you, it would have been in 65,71 war against India. But like fools, we stood by you, tricked by the umah crap. But like I said what goes around comes around.

and even if Pakistan kills 20 million peoples Afghanistan has no right to comment
Do you guys comment on Kashmir ?

 

[CriticalThinker02]

If you stop interfering we'll stop supporting anti pakistan elements, I mean if we were to really hurt you, it would have been in 65,71 war against India. But like fools, we stood by you, tricked by the umah crap. But like I said what goes around comes around.

You did hurt us many times in the past, you were the only nation to have voted against the joining of Pakistan at UN in 1947, you even invaded us and had many skirmishes in the 1950's and 1960's in order to try to capture major parts of Pakistan in to your nationalist greater Afghan agenda, and look at where you are now and where we are, our pakhtoons are thriving with over 30 million while yours are regressing in oppression with even less than a fifth of that number, do not fight us Afghan because the only one who is going to suffer is you, wash that Nationalist Afghan world view down the drain while you still can because Pakistan is not sleeping, we are way more capable than you are or will ever be, we know how to take care of our enemies, there was never an ummah with Nationalist Afghan, your history has proven that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghanistan–Pakistan_skirmishes

 

[ziaulislam]

Well you guys started it in 1947 and are still doing it. Proof is above

Only if yanks have not acted like cowboys and negotiated the UNICOL deal back then, so many deaths and misery and many years later we wouldn't have come back full circle.

Taliban are offering yanks to come and build their country as investors, not as occupiers.

The pushto speech is very detailed and different

 

[TheUndertaker]

and even if Pakistan kills 20 million peoples Afghanistan has no right to comment
Do you guys comment on Kashmir ?

Ofcourse we do have the right. You give us the right as soon as you are interfering in our country. Kashmir is a lost cause. But Afghans have no stake in it either way. What should we worry about, neighbour interfering or Kashmir?

 

[ziaulislam]

Ofcourse we do have the right. You give us the right as soon as you are interfering in our country. Kashmir is a lost cause. But Afghans have no stake in it either way. What should we worry about, neighbour interfering or Kashmir?

who interfered first you or we? 1947..? kashmir is last cause because afghan betrayed their brothers in pakistan and joined the hindhus

 

[TheDarkKnight]

Blackwater too. There is whole different perspective that many here are too deluded to even contemplate....coz they need some "win" inside to vindicate whatever gaping chasm formed all these years.

Not to mention "fill em up" by @Tokhme khar 's lads...take out one fuel tank, another replaces it....and they are just waiting for opportunity to illustrate exactly what happened in Syria...on the other side of Persian cultural space. Most Afghans speak Persian for a reason you know.

@Cthulhu @SOHEIL @Ziggurat “TepeSialk“

I am sorry but the only delusion I see here is the hope of accomplishing something from mercenaries which professional armies with unmatched tech and airpower have not been able to. Black water was a disaster in Iraq already. Another delusion I see here is Iran jumping in for no apparent reason or provocation. I see Iran and Russia already cooperating with Taliban - I remember the last Taliban chief when he was droned in Pakistan was actually comming back from Iran.
Also what Iran achieved against ISIS was not all by it self, Russian support was there as well

Not really. If they are truly "fed up", they would have done complete withdrawal, not just half....and certainly not replace the half thats going with other (less command chain needed) ways to accomplish things on the ground where needed.

US 4 star General (theatre level i.e CENTCOM) I believe spoke on this just recently. He sees it completely different to most members here....I wonder who has better perspective on it?

@VCheng @Joe Shearer @padamchen @OsmanAli98

Well I guess it depends if you call a glass half full or half empty - but the thing is both statements are true. The indications are that US wants to leave and, doesnt want more evil forces like ISIS to gain foothold. Talking to Taliban (yup the women beating terrorists) on the taliban terms (i.e direct talks with US with no Afghan govt) is the biggest sign and actually shows that ANA and govt has failed millitarily and politicaly.

I would appreciate a reference for the talk done by US general.

 

[Nilgiri]

I am sorry but the only delusion I see here is the hope of accomplishing something from mercenaries which professional armies with unmatched tech and airpower have not been able to. Black water was a disaster in Iraq already. Another delusion I see here is Iran jumping in for no apparent reason or provocation. I see Iran and Russia already cooperating with Taliban - I remember the last Taliban chief when he was droned in Pakistan was actually comming back from Iran.


Well I guess it depends if you call a glass half full or half empty - but the thing is both statements are true. The indications are that US wants to leave and, doesnt want more evil forces like ISIS to gain foothold. Talking to Taliban (yup the women beating terrorists) on the taliban terms (i.e direct talks with US with no Afghan govt) is the biggest sign and actually shows that ANA and govt has failed millitarily and politicaly.

I would appreciate a reference for the talk done by US general.

I don't disagree completely with what you have said either. Guess we will see in the end.

The US general was soundbite I saw on the news...I will dig it up later...can't find it right now in brief search.

EDIT: I believe it was this guy:

https://abcnews.go.com/Internationa...alks-taliban-absolutely-key/story?id=60831588

U.S. military officials told ABC News that part of any endgame for them was making sure that Afghan forces were prepared to fight the insurgency, which also now includes ISIS in Afghanistan.

Afghan forces are fighting ISIS with support from U.S. airstrikes, but unlike the Taliban, ISIS has no desire to negotiate, officials said.

Miller made clear that there was no endgame in Afghanistan that provided a safe haven for terrorists.

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He fleshed out what he meant somewhere else....and added rejoinder I believe that without the US capability/effort of specific targetting of Taliban assets....they would not have come to the negotiating table in first place.

Thus it adds to various sources I have access to....that US capability presence will be there as safeguard.

 

[Army research]

keep waiting , talibans will be under control of america .

I'm sorry have you ever met a pathan?

 

[TheUndertaker]

I'm sorry have you ever met a pathan?

pathan is a derogatory term for Pashtun being, a war fighter, good for nothing. Just big, bold and bum. I am sure the term "****" is banned here. how about across the board?

pathan is a derogatory term for Pashtun being, a war fighter, good for nothing. Just big, bold and bum. I am sure the term "****" is banned here. how about across the board?

since the term was blanked by the forum. P@ki is what I wrote.

 

[hussain0216]

If you stop interfering we'll stop supporting anti pakistan elements, I mean if we were to really hurt you, it would have been in 65,71 war against India. But like fools, we stood by you, tricked by the umah crap. But like I said what goes around comes around.

You did

In 1947 you refused to recognise Pakistan

And in 1960s you attacked Pakistan to try and take our land but were defeated and humiliated