Brave victim of grooming gangs tells story of brutal rape and abuse by 70 men - but only two -

[Thorough Pro]

the victim and her testimony is the greatest evidence, you can't ask for an undie after 35 years

there is no evidence Kavanaugh is the culprit. you cannot prove something happened 35 years ago without any evidence

 

[nahtanbob]

the victim and her testimony is the greatest evidence, you can't ask for an undie after 35 years

the testimony of the victim has to be backed up by physical evidence.
you cannot convict someone solely on the basis of testimony

if the crime happened 35 years ago she should have gone to the cops

 

[khansaheeb]

you cannot immigrate to a foreign country and bitch about values. you can whine about economic situation in Pakistan. people are not starving in a famine in Pakistan.

do you have collect rape and other statistics on crimes against women in pakistan ? Or are you claiming such crimes do not happen ?

this is from pakistan government website
http://www.pbs.gov.pk/sites/default/files//tables/19.3.pdf

i see a row on cattle theft - none for rape.

Are you questioning the facts or my opinion?

Do you want to have a bet? : - "you cannot immigrate to a foreign country and bitch about values."

Any way you make a few assertions not based on fact. I was born in the UK, lol, so I am not even an immigrant. Secondly which country you are from is irrelevant in opinions and arguments. Thirdly I don't even live in the UK and even if I did I am entitled to make an opinion even though it may be distasteful to you. That's a value you won't understand or appreciate in the US because these values have been taken away from you. Any way you are immigrant just like me in the US no matter what your passport says, so stfu.

The starting point of our discussion was the definition of "values", so rather than diverging and trolling why not agree upon the definition and then we can proceed with the discussion about what British values really are. I can't really comment on American values as I haven't been here long enough but I seem to have a pretty good idea, I believe.

 

[nahtanbob]

Are you questioning the facts or my opinion?

Do you want to have a bet? : - "you cannot immigrate to a foreign country and bitch about values."

Any way you make a few assertions not based on fact. I was born in the UK, lol, so I am not even an immigrant. Secondly which country you are from is irrelevant in opinions and arguments. Thirdly I don't even live in the UK and even if I did I am entitled to make an opinion even though it may be distasteful to you. That's a value you won't understand or appreciate in the US because these values have been taken away from you. Any way you are immigrant just like me in the US no matter what your passport says, so stfu.

The starting point of our discussion was the definition of "values", so rather than diverging and trolling why not agree upon the definition and then we can proceed with the discussion about what British values really are. I can't really comment on American values as I haven't been here long enough but I seem to have a pretty good idea, I believe.

you are entitled to your opinions however distasteful they are

no one will listen to you when immigrants from certain countries are banned or your community has a living standard below the country's median

 

[padamchen]

@Retired Troll

I've never really taken more than a passing look at these stories, because the idea of a old/adult man fking a little girl just grosses me out on so many different levels.

So it's possible that I've missed the explanation somwwheso inside the hundreds of grooming related articles.

But I've always wondered. Would you know why this disgusting act is called "grooming"?

Who is being groomed here? The little girl?

If so, it's hugely unfortunate this choice of terminology.

Cheers, Doc

 

[nahtanbob]

@Retired Troll

I've never really taken more than a passing look at these stories, because the idea of a old/adult man fking a little girl just grosses me out on so many different levels.

So it's possible that I've missed the explanation somwwheso inside the hundreds of grooming related articles.

But I've always wondered. Would you know why this disgusting act is called "grooming"?

Who is being groomed here? The little girl?

If so, it's hugely unfortunate this choice of terminology.

Cheers, Doc

ask the british authorities

 

[padamchen]

ask the british authorities

Im asking @Retired Troll.

Cheers, Doc

 

[khansaheeb]

you are entitled to your opinions however distasteful they are

no one will listen to you when immigrants from certain countries are banned or your community has a living standard below the country's median

That satisfies your narcistic ,perverted and sadistic tendencies and feelings: seeing the misery and suffering of people? I bet your type of people are responsible for the suffering of the homeless and the downtrodden in the US :"when immigrants from certain countries are banned or your community has a living standard below the country's median"

Really, are you an Indian in disguise? You certainly sound like one.

 

[nahtanbob]

That satisfies your narcistic ,perverted and sadistic tendencies and feelings: seeing the misery and suffering of people? I bet your type of people are responsible for the suffering of the homeless and the downtrodden in the US :"when immigrants from certain countries are banned or your community has a living standard below the country's median"

If someone has five kids without the means to take care of them it is their problem not mine.

Most of the homeless in New York and San Francisco are alcoholic. What do you want to do ? Ban alcohol. We went that route. It is called Prohibition.

the downtrodden are fine - they have smart phones, microwave ovens, Medicaid (lot of states)

get back to the original point - you want to have distasteful opinions and you do not want to face the consequences of holding those opinions. the world does not work that way

 

[khansaheeb]

If someone has five kids without the means to take care of them it is their problem not mine.

Most of the homeless in New York and San Francisco are alcoholic. What do you want to do ? Ban alcohol. We went that route. It is called Prohibition.

the downtrodden are fine - they have smart phones, microwave ovens, Medicaid (lot of states)

get back to the original point - you want to have distasteful opinions and you do not want to face the consequences of holding those opinions. the world does not work that way

Fu@ck you , you low life thinking sc*um.

 

[El Sidd]

@Retired Troll

I've never really taken more than a passing look at these stories, because the idea of a old/adult man fking a little girl just grosses me out on so many different levels.

So it's possible that I've missed the explanation somwwheso inside the hundreds of grooming related articles.

But I've always wondered. Would you know why this disgusting act is called "grooming"?

Who is being groomed here? The little girl?

If so, it's hugely unfortunate this choice of terminology.

Cheers, Doc

What is your conflict with the term?

 

[padamchen]

What is your conflict with the term?

Grooming evokes visions of nice things like good skin and hair, dressing, etc.

Cheers, Doc

 

[El Sidd]

Grooming evokes visions of nice things like good skin and hair, dressing, etc.

Cheers, Doc

Well you have the advantage of adjectives like Personal, Professional or as Dark as sexual.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

OP has an anti-Muslim, anti-Pakistan agenda.

No use talking to such people.

Really, are you an Indian in disguise? You certainly sound like one.

You found him out.

 

[Vortex]

Guys,

wrong is wrong, whoever, whenever it was done/made. So if some pakistanis did wrong then they should be sanctionned.

If others are also doing same wrong, it does not mean that pakistan should be allowed to do wrong.

And i Hope (even if by publishing such book, the person will make money) this will help Society to do something to protect girls, women etc... I'm father of a girl, i have sisters, i have mother, i have wife... and i do not want they fall in the hand of those guys.

For sure, parents should protect, guide, help their children in order they don't have the need to go alone, but even if they go alone some day, they should be safe.

Crime is crime.