Boris Johnson has coronavirus

[masterchief_mirza]

Isolation protocol is what matters for mildly symptomatic, along with contact tracing and testing of contacts if possible. The gold standard south Korean way of testing everyone is not possible in UK - they've already admitted to this weakness. Second best is isolate the symptomatic and don't let them spread it through their household and community.

 

[Constantin84]

So if I'm at home, stable with a cough and fever, will a positive covid test result change my treatment?

No...but knowing if you have the disease or not can help,at least psychologically.Nevermind the fact that things can escalate...

 

[masterchief_mirza]

No...but knowing if you have the disease or not can help,at least psychologically.Nevermind the fact that things can escalate...

I'm not against testing at home. The point is keeping the mild folks in their living rooms and stopping them spreading it - or at least, that's what we're told is the point. It remains plausible that the government actually accepts and even wants some slow transmission as this is the only end game scenario for stopping this outbreak relatively soon. Emphasis is on SLOW so as not to flood hospitals with severe cases, as may happen in London.

I agree with @UKBengali that the government have handled it reasonably well in view of resources available. Lessons about capacity and strategic reserve must be learned though. Corbyn was right.

 

[UKBengali]

I agree with @UKBengali that the government have handled it reasonably well in view of resources available. Lessons about capacity and strategic reserve must be learned though. Corbyn was right.

It looks like the difference with UK is that they are listening to the experts.

Closing down schools first and then the total lockdown were recommended by experts when it looked like without these measures, the NHS will be overwhelmed and hundreds of thousands will die.

Just looking at the scale of the setting up of temporary hospitals like the 4000 bed temporary hospital at Edexcel gives you confidence they seem to know what they are doing.

I am also happy that they are going with a two track approach with massively increasing ventilator capacity
- giving huge order for 10,000 ventilators from Dyson who have massive expertise in air movements and filtration and also getting other companies to help Smiths to massively scale up their production by bringing in help from rest of UK industry. Ventilator manufacturer Penlon are also increasing their capacity as much as possible.

Yes the UK has had some luck but the government now seems to have this pandemic hopefully in hand.

 

[dBSPL]

Stop blaming China, act mature for once.

From now on 100,000 new cases every day... We'll talk millions in just a week. Moreover, the outbreak did not even begin in Africa and South America!( "no test no fear" phase ) The world economy will shrink at least 25%. Millions more will fight hunger. And when we refer to the actual perpetrators of this, we are told to shut up. Thats great.

 

[Constantin84]

From now on 100,000 new cases every day... We'll talk millions in just a week. Moreover, the outbreak did not even begin in Africa and South America!( "no test no fear" phase ) The world economy will shrink at least 25%. Millions more will fight hunger. And when we refer to the actual perpetrators of this, we are told to shut up. Thats great.

No shutting up! China brought this upon the world, China must pay for it.

 

[F-22Raptor]

No shutting up! China brought this upon the world, China must pay for it.

People underestimate the damage this is doing to China. Doctors, researchers, historians, etc. will ultimately have the final say in this. This will be remembered for decades if not centuries, and China will be remembered as the culprit. The longer and worse this gets, the more damage this does to China. We're living through a once in a century pandemic.

 

[Georg]

rich men don't die of commoners disease

wrong this virus ignores your bank account... and because their is no medicin to fight it there is no different between rich and poor...

Many "famous" people are killed by it... in Spain the former boss of Real Madrid was killed by the virus, in France a Princes died from the virus, in Italy a famous designer ...the list of famous rich victims is long..

This virus hit the world elite Jet Set hard...their endless travel from one hot spot to the next around the world was the reason the virus spread around the world so quickly.

People underestimate the damage this is doing to China. Doctors, researchers, historians, etc. will ultimately have the final say in this. This will be remembered for decades if not centuries, and China will be remembered as the culprit. The longer and worse this gets, the more damage this does to China. We're living through a once in a century pandemic.

China will face harsh consequens after this is over...thats for sure. China is big..the world is bigger and this virus united the world and there is only one nation guilty. People will think twice next time if they buy something cheap "Made in China" or spend some more money for the orginal "made elswere in the world"..the world factory will fall apart and many nations will bring back the production to their own soil.... if you read the news the people realize now that the "dirty craftmen" the cashier, the nurse, the baker, the farmer, the butcher, the trucker are the key jobs in this world... they keep the world running as they always did... not the banker, not the insurance agency, not the rating agency, not the lobbysts, not the broker, not the show starlet...they see now how useless they are in reality... there are first political voices Germany that want correction of the salary after this is over ...and they are not from left wing socialists

 

[dBSPL]

Inspection should begin with WHO Executive Board members and their relationship networks. We witness the rapid collapse of international organizations especially in terms of their fiduciary sides. WHO's antics in recent months is absolutely an exemplary situation.

 

[Mithridates]

wrong this virus ignores your bank account

in critical phase of disease the infected person can not breath on his own and needs ventilator, ventilators are available in limited numbers... so to some extent he is right.

 

[xenon54 out]

China will face harsh consequens after this is over...thats for sure. China is big..the world is bigger and this virus united the world and there is only one nation guilty. People will think twice next time if they buy something cheap "Made in China" or spend some more money for the orginal "made elswere in the world"..the world factory will fall apart and many nations will bring back the production to their own soil.... if you read the news the people realize now that the "dirty craftmen" the cashier, the nurse, the baker, the farmer, the butcher, the trucker are the key jobs in this world... they keep the world running as they always did... not the banker, not the insurance agency, not the rating agency, not the lobbysts, not the broker, not the show starlet...they see now how useless they are in reality... there are first political voices Germany that want correction of the salary after this is over ...and they are not from left wing socialists

You actually believe that? Nobody will pay more for EU made products, not even 25% more but i like your optimism.

 

[Nilgiri]

wrong this virus ignores your bank account... and because their is no medicin to fight it there is no different between rich and poor...

Many "famous" people are killed by it... in Spain the former boss of Real Madrid was killed by the virus, in France a Princes died from the virus, in Italy a famous designer ...the list of famous rich victims is long..

This virus hit the world elite Jet Set hard...their endless travel from one hot spot to the next around the world was the reason the virus spread around the world so quickly.



China will face harsh consequens after this is over...thats for sure. China is big..the world is bigger and this virus united the world and there is only one nation guilty. People will think twice next time if they buy something cheap "Made in China" or spend some more money for the orginal "made elswere in the world"..the world factory will fall apart and many nations will bring back the production to their own soil.... if you read the news the people realize now that the "dirty craftmen" the cashier, the nurse, the baker, the farmer, the butcher, the trucker are the key jobs in this world... they keep the world running as they always did... not the banker, not the insurance agency, not the rating agency, not the lobbysts, not the broker, not the show starlet...they see now how useless they are in reality... there are first political voices Germany that want correction of the salary after this is over ...and they are not from left wing socialists

Yup hearing pretty much same thing on the ground here in Canada....one of most nicest polite countries ppl think of, is absolutely livid with rage (past all local politics) at what the Chinese govt has allowed to happen....by deliberately lying and suppressing/destroying evidence in crucial early weeks.

There will be severe retribution and re-evaluation of economic relationship with China...as long as it chooses to remain extreme save-face-1st (till bubble bursts) autocratic setup.

 

[Georg]

in critical phase of disease the infected person can not breath on his own and needs ventilator, ventilators are available in limited numbers... so to some extent he is right.

that maybee true in nations like USA but not in most european nations... if a horpital has no more capazity it does not matter how much money you own....maybee political keyfigures or important industrial leader would recive extra care mostly from their nation military ... but the average rich..is at the moment as poor as the average poor...

You actually believe that? Nobody will pay more for EU made products, not even 25% more but i like your optimism.

USA and EU are the biggest customer befor Corona from China... you realy belive after this everything went back to do everything as befor... no

 

[Constantin84]

You actually believe that? Nobody will pay more for EU made products, not even 25% more but i like your optimism.

It's about what we're willing to pay.....and delegating a tinpot marxist state to manufacture even simple face masks for you on account of cost saving, simply will not stand anymore. China was entrusted with many things but they blew it....you can only pitty the CCP bots in here who act like they represent some great power when their country is just a giant shop owned by western corporations....it's time to fire the yellow commie from the shop

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

Get well soon Boris.