Bollywood actor Jiah Khan commits suicide

[Water Car Engineer]

God knows what's going on in their minds to go to that extreme.

 

[JonAsad]

So all the innocent people that die in bomb blasts and kids that lose their lives in natural disasters die because Allah wants them dead?

to put it in very simple words-
Their times up- the reasons may seen immature or unjustified- in the end no one wants to die- but hey this is how it is since the start- you cant escape it-

Yes it is... Remember the story of Hazrat Ayub (AS)..

Hi- can you link me to the story?- -

Sure and he does it

And life of jiya was also taken by the will of Allah ..no soul leave this world without his will

You know if death by suicide was will of Allah- there wouldn't be such hard punishments for committing suicides-

 

[Donatello]

Contrary to what you say---you have to be very brave to do that.

Remember one thing---don't let the words that you say---come and haunt you later in your life in your moment of despair---.

I speak out of first hand experience---I was as arrogant as you could be---and as ruthless---. Son---don't put yourself in a position where Allah forces you to do other wise---. The kind and generous Allah is also an extremely ruthless Allah as well---time is on the side of Allah---and he can wear out your resistance to HIS will and timing and make you a petty beggar begging for crumbs---.

My mentor,

Those who have not experienced such pain cannot fathom how bad it is. Please ignore the ignorant.

 

[arbit]

Hi,

Why do people commit suicide and why some of them take their children with them? In 2007 recession---when I lost my job---and then the newly purchase mansion---I experience the dilemma first hand---the times were tough---saving all going faster than they were accumulated---managerial jobs non existant---sales jobs---i had forgotten how to sell.

Even my young kids got tired of seeing me at home---they would ask their mom---'why doesn't he go out and get a job'. They were desperate times---they were dark times---and then there were very dark moments in my life---. My wife also tired of me. One night I am sitting at the edge of the 'dark hole'---thinking that at least my children would be better off---at least they would get the benefits till they are adults and so would my wife get my survival benefits---but I chickened out at the last moment---I thought of my children and the rest of my family---. I said to myself---they don't deserve this---they don't to live through this---they have not done anything wrong---what right do I have to take it away from them.

As I stepped back---I staretd looking at life with a new challenge---the fear of failure left me---I was afraid not more---I---once again became a salesman---I tell you---the transition was brutal to the psyche---me in my 50's---competing with youn kids in their 20's with endless energy---. I regained my old self in due time---it was extremely stressful as I had forgotten all about the first hand salesman to a customer at the ini9tial handshake moment---but the worse thing was to see so many incompetent manager having secure jobs. That was the hardest part to get over.

But when I got going---I excelled like never before---that moment at the brink of the 'black hole' had taken away all my inhibitions and fears.

I survived the reccession of 2007---2009---I could over come any obstacles. I felt the pain of so many of those who took their lives and also took the lives of their families and children----. I suffered the pain like I have suffered no other pain---. My only wish was if I could to talk to people during their moment of distress and tell them my story.

When it all staretd---I felt extremely humiliated and felt degraded---facing my children had become extremely embarassing---I had not even made the first monthly payment of my house---I could not talk to anyone---not to friends or colleagues---no one---somehow the conversation opened up in front of my neighbour---. She was so kind to me and my wife---she gave us both a hug and told us things will be alright---you can only control what you can---.

We all make that fatal mistake----when we say and think---what will the neighbours say---what will my relatives say---oh they live laugh at me---they will be making fun behind my back---my friends will reject me---I will be the laughing stock of the community.

You know as it turns out---it is all in the head---these are all mind games---I was fortunate---that I came across compassionate people---.

Once I came back from the verge of oblivian---I started talking to my colleagues---people strangers---I realized that I was not the only one---so many had lost their assets and resource---I would talk to them and share with them where I had been and how I pulled myself up---for me---it was my children---that made it happen---if it was not for them---who knows what could have happened.

As for the young 26 years old---I feel your pain---I feel the agony that you went through---failure rejection depression those are terrible things togo through at such a young age---specially depression.

I feel that one of my saving grace was that I did not suffer from any depression--- ijust made a finacial calculation and decided that my children would be better off financially without me---but my emotional attachment to them pulled me up to fight for them one more time.

So many souls who have lost the fight to live do not have anything left to pull them out---but others have made that fatal mistake of taking their family alongwith them for the final journey---the last ones---do not deserve any sympathy of any kind---.

MastanKhan Ji

what you have written here requires courage to even admit to oneself in solitude and to do that here in the presence of all in a public forum and writing a brutally honest post is indeed commendable.

Movie industry is a ruthless industry especially for young people who taste success early and when they fall on hard times its inevitably a case of a mid life crisis in early 20s. Attractive girls and on hard up times, rejected and dejected most of them fall into a trap of exploitation and ugly compromises.. resulting in depression and with no guidance its a downward spiral.
This news was a shock to me as well. She was a likeable girl..

And thank you for this brilliant post of yours.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Hi- can you link me to the story?- -

Im actually amazed tht you guys dnt know abt it...

http://www.google.com.pk/url?sa=t&r...2fACqiQF5ZP2EXMCFu7SzTw&bvm=bv.47534661,d.bGE

http://www.google.com.pk/url?sa=t&r...C3dpa9umkc2B8Ec6y8ocD9A&bvm=bv.47534661,d.bGE

 

[Dubious]

At times, its true that the probability of someone's reustication and most importantly an increase in quality of life is well almost equal to 0 .

that is why jihad against nafs is supposed to be no.1 which no one looks at!

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

I like suicide!! When you have no way, you have right to die!!
She was gorgeous!!

 

[Dubious]

I dont agree here which is probably our first disagreement .doctors/experts know how brain work

As far miracles goes then even dead person can get life with mircles and i also dont paint all killing with same brush

@Raja.Pakistani yes we disagree...Well, for me life is sacred as mentioned in the Quran...No one has the right to determine when it should end (except god) or even attempt it...

 

[livingdead]

I like suicide!! When you have no way, you have right to die!!
She was gorgeous!!

People who are prone to such mental health risk should be put on watch and given councelling. I dont think people who commit suicide are necessarily weak or strong minded, some people might not have a support structure in place or have no reason to look forward to a new tomorrow.
BTW, suicide is illegal in India.

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

BTW, suicide is illegal in India.

Who cares about illegal!!
When man is deprived, Life is fucked up terribly!! Then Man has right to goodbye life!!

 

[Dubious]

So no suffering no pain no happiness for brain dead person ..

No feelings no emotions no hope as well..

so is not he dead already ?

He is breathing, with a soul inside him...How can he be dead when the soul hasnt left? Does the soul have no weight? The same soul GOD blew into Adam and gave him life....THAT SOUL is what life is...

I think we cannot feel the pain of others unless we put ourselves in their shoes..its easy for me to oppose mer y killing of someone whose chance of recovery is ten peercent or less and who has to suffer this pain on daily basis

I agree so....Lets put ourselves in that shoe shall we...Imagine your beloved....Would YOU pull the plug or will you wait even if the chance to speak to them again will be 1%?

Also its hardest thing for people to watch their dear ones in constant pain and waiting for mircles ..mercy killing use in cases where they dont see any hope/chance of recovery

You just said no pain

So no suffering no pain no happiness for brain dead person ..

No feelings no emotions no hope as well..

so is not he dead already ?

so what pain?!

Hi- can you link me to the story?- -

http://www.itsislam.net/articles/prophet_ayub.asp

http://www.islaam.net/main/display.php?id=1702&category=148

 

[Dubious]

Now Prophet Ayub lost everything...Yet he didnt ask to be killed...1 would say he was a prophet...But mind you he was human 1st..and that is why prophets are chosen from human beings and not angels so that WE LEARN!

He lost his children, his wealth, his health...his wife was being a pain....He was as close to a vegetable as 1 could be....

My mentor,

Those who have not experienced such pain cannot fathom how bad it is. Please ignore the ignorant.

@Donatello And those who have gone through it and survived have come out stronger!

I like suicide!! When you have no way, you have right to die!!
She was gorgeous!!

to whom exactly?!

 

[Zabaniyah]

Life's a Jihad.

 

[S.U.R.B.]

Life is a purposeful activity.It's a hard task to survive.Not an easy one by any imagination.

But expectations and desires and the hardships during this struggle spread hopelessness and disappointment.That's what alienates man from the main stream of that purposeful activity.So, you lose the purpose and hence the desire to live as an outcome to it.

Few just take the risk and continue on with it ,they just not waste their opportunity.They wait for the right time or for some help from fellows around them.To be able to get of a their miseries ,helplessness and disappointments.

Hopelessness, low self esteem, a feeling of worthlessness and pessimism ,what else is depression?

What would have happened if our elders had done something similar?
It was harder back then, it was a struggle for survival and they did show their commitment for our good future.

What's her age?
Just 25.What a waste.....
People just take suicide as a solution to something.
No sir, it's not.As you end your life you end up nowhere.
It's like a kid trying to win a race and he sees everyone else getting ahead of him(desires are not being met) he stops running , sit there in the field and starts crying while saying ,"it's not fair and i don't play".Instead of trying a bit harder or bringing in some changes inside him to be better player.

Is it what we are all about?
A mere bunch of losers?

If it was a medical illness, why it wasn't sorted out."IF" it's a suicide then people around her (parents if alive, friends and relatives) are equally responsible.What's the need of the close ones if they can't sense the things and see if it's going to end good or not?


While saying that, the autopsy results are awaited to ascertain if it was a suicide.

 

[Zabaniyah]

I'm also suspicious of this case.

But by all means, creating a big career in the movie industry is never easy.

Arnold Schwarzenegger for instance came to the US knowing little English and little money. And look where he is now. It is really a struggle. Some succeed, and some don't.