Blood telegram: Nixon, Kissinger and a forgotten Genocide (1971)

[asad71]

Do you think propagating nonsense will give you any credbility on the global scale? Nobody even know about some crappy 71 propoganda or the pathetic 3 million dead n 3 hundred thousand raped BS!



The total strength of military was 34,000 (including the bangali defectors?) 10,000 police and LEA

@asad71 your opinion sir.

1. Exaggeration is a common ailment in SA.
2. During the '71 War the civil administration had been largely functional in BD. DCs, SPs and other functionaries worked somehow. Within a month of the surrendering, NOKs of Bengalee shaheeds had received a money order of B/Tk 2,500.00 as a token from the govt. The war wounded received stipends and free treatment in specialized hospitals. What I am trying to say is that GOB has a list of the dead and wounded.
3. Bihari/non-Bengalee civilians were at the top of the list of the killed. Then the Bengalee civilians -mostly Hindu. Many died on way to India. And some in the refugee camps.Razakars and PA were next.FFs and Bengalee military personnel were the other category.
4. When there is a friendly govt in BD this matter should be taken up together between GOB and GOP to list out the dead for historical record and to offset motivated exaggerations.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

What do you say about that GoP issued stamp? Fake?

Pakistan has the ignominous record of the largest surrender since WW2. It's a fact, deal with it.

Included civilians ,doctors,govt employs,contractors,engineers,even women and children .. Try using your grey matter for a change .. Instead of acting like a stuck up ...

 

[Armstrong]

1. Exaggeration is a common ailment in SA.
2. During the '71 War the civil administration had been largely functional in BD. DCs, SPs and other functionaries worked somehow. Within a month of the surrendering, NOKs of Bengalee shaheeds had received a money order of B/Tk 2,500.00 as a token from the govt. The war wounded received stipends and free treatment in specialized hospitals. What I am trying to say is that GOB has a list of the dead and wounded.
3. Bihari/non-Bengalee civilians were at the top of the list of the killed. Then the Bengalee civilians -mostly Hindu. Many died on way to India. And some in the refugee camps.Razakars and PA were next.FFs and Bengalee military personnel were the other category.
4. When there is a friendly govt in BD this matter should be taken up together between GOB and GOP to list out the dead for historical record and to offset motivated exaggerations.

Asad Bhai you fought against us !

I thought we were Brothers !

So how was your trip to Pakistan* ?

*judging by your signature

 

[ayesha.a]

Included civilians ,doctors,govt employs,contractors,engineers,even women and children .. Try using your grey matter for a change .. Instead of acting like a stuck up ...

The official instrument of surrender is quite clear:

"This surrender includes all of Pakistan land, air and naval forces as also all para-military forces and civil armed forces."

It doesn't mention contractors and engineers and children. Yes, civilian employees who aided the war effort were taken POWs, and that's standard procedure. The were sheltered and protected by the Indian army, and given safe passage to Pakistan.

Why the rudeness?

For some people, it substitutes for content.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

1. Exaggeration is a common ailment in SA.
2. During the '71 War the civil administration had been largely functional in BD. DCs, SPs and other functionaries worked somehow. Within a month of the surrendering, NOKs of Bengalee shaheeds had received a money order of B/Tk 2,500.00 as a token from the govt. The war wounded received stipends and free treatment in specialized hospitals. What I am trying to say is that GOB has a list of the dead and wounded.
3. Bihari/non-Bengalee civilians were at the top of the list of the killed. Then the Bengalee civilians -mostly Hindu. Many died on way to India. And some in the refugee camps.Razakars and PA were next.FFs and Bengalee military personnel were the other category.
4. When there is a friendly govt in BD this matter should be taken up together between GOB and GOP to list out the dead for historical record and to offset motivated exaggerations.

And how many people actually turned out for the compensation?

The bombing of an orphanage that killed over 350+ kids during the last week of war (when PAF's lone SQD of ageing sabers were grounded) was also blamed on PAF .. An Australian journalist stated that indian airforce could pin a tail on a piniata (or whatever) in broad day light .. They tried BOMBING Dhaka airport for 4 days.. Before actually hitting it (and that too after bombing an orphanage in the process).

The killings of West Pak and Biharis in crescent,premium and other mills by the thousands of the new bihari colony is also documented.

The killings of west Pak and their families at Ghazipur ordinance factory.
Mutiny loving BDRs killings of its West Pak officers & their families at BDR HQs.
The beheading of West Pak soldiers n their families by bengali soldiers?
The direct involvement of india?
Awami league goons killing and lootin hindus?
The burning o shops n businesses of west Pak.. Violent attacks on west Pak and even foriegn journalists before the operations ?
The fake massacre of shakaripara .. where 1 man and 1 kid was shot while fleein (the soldier thought he was a suspect and ordered him to stop).
And so on...?

Pakistan never even talked about the war .. It kept quiet meanwhile the propoganda machine kept chunning.

 

[ayesha.a]

And those are yet to be proved after almost 5 decades ? Amusing isn't it? As to attrocities your militarybis doing a fine job in your own country Aswell as on peacekeeping missions... Now please carry on with your usual nonsense ..

"Proofs" exist only in mathematics and logic. In everything else, it's evidence that counts. And yes, atrocities by the Pakistani military are well documented and evidenced.

As for your next sentence, it is not my military that is doing bombing runs with F-16s on my own people, or using artillery and heavy weaponry against my own people within my own borders.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

The official instrument of surrender is quite clear:

"This surrender includes all of Pakistan land, air and naval forces as also all para-military forces and civil armed forces."

It doesn't mention contractors and engineers and children. Yes, civilian employees who aided the war effort were taken POWs, and that's standard procedure. The were sheltered and protected by the Indian army, and given safe passage to Pakistan.

it just keeps getting better and better .. you should really keep shut .. even your countrymen are boasting about women and children and so called 70,000 troops .. When infact the total number of military was 34,000... 10,000 police,a few thousand LEAS... Govt employs and so on..

Even on the stamp you can see children ..

For some people, it substitutes for content.

Yup content .. that's what our self confessed Zionist is really known for.. and so are you .. Right?

 

[asad71]

Asad Bhai you fought against us !

I thought we were Brothers !

So how was your trip to Pakistan* ?

*judging by your signature

1.I participated in Op Gibraltar, and like many Bengalees took full part in '65 War.1 E Bengal, an exclusive Bengalee bn defended LHR deployed at Luliani. This unit won the most gallantry awards by any unit in the war.
2. '71 was completely different. After Bengali soldiers were disarmed and shot, there was little choice for us.Our action was really reaction and resistance. We had to fight to survive.

 

[ayesha.a]

it just keeps getting better and better .. you should really keep shut .. even your countrymen are boasting about women and children and so called 70,000 troops .. When infact the total number of military was 34,000... 10,000 police,a few thousand LEAS... Govt employs and so on..

If my countrymen boasted about (non combatant) women and children, they were wrong to do so. Please do point out where they boasted about that, and I will respond to them.

 

[gslv mk3]

An Australian journalist stated that indian airforce could pin a tail on a piniata (or whatever) in broad day light ..

typical non sense

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

If my countrymen boasted about (non combatant) women and children, they were wrong to do so. Please do point out where they boasted about that, and I will respond to them.

Why don't you use those 2 buttons God has given you and scroll back? Or even view the stamp you love posting .. Also get it tattooed on your forehead.. Might come in handy.

 

[ayesha.a]

Why don't you use those 2 buttons God has given you and scroll back? Or even view the stamp you love posting .. Also get it tattooed on your forehead.. Might come in handy.

So you can't show me where Indians boasted about taking non combatant children as POWs? This is the second time in the same day that you are telling me to search for something because of your inability to backup your own statements.

Oh BTW, it's not god who gives buttons, its the webmaster.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

So you can't show me where Indians boasted about taking non combatant children as POWs? This is the second time in the same day that you are telling me to search for something because of your inability to backup your own statements.

Oh BTW, it's not god who gives buttons, its the webmaster.

So you can't scroll back or see the damn stamp?? and instead you have to act like a pain in the arse? As for the second time .. Yes still reminds me of 67 years sob story.. As your mate gslv ..

Pray tell me; how can a Diplomat in a country ravaged by Civil War have the luxury of going on a fact-finding mission to piece together what really happened ?

And barring conjecture; where exactly are the facts ?

He had magical powers like this ayesha woman.

 

[ayesha.a]

So you can't scroll back or see the damn stamp?? and instead you have to act like a pain in the arse? As for the second time .. Yes still reminds me of 67 years sob story.. As your mate gslv ..

Look, I don't want to keep trading bellicose statements all day. As I said before, if any Indians boasted about non combatant children being taken POWs, point it out.

For the "second" part - true, it wasn't 67 years, but since 1970 - which is still longer than the operational service record of F-16s, and therefore my point was still valid. BTW you were claiming that figure of 1000 crashes was from the past two decades, which was a big fat lie, as I exposed. Anyway, reply on that thread if you want to continue being exposed. It is off topic here.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

"Proofs" exist only in mathematics and logic. In everything else, it's evidence that counts. And yes, atrocities by the Pakistani military are well documented and evidenced.

by whom ? You?

As for your next sentence, it is not my military that is doing bombing runs with F-16s on my own people, or using artillery and heavy weaponry against my own people within my own borders.

Only I you had an iota of the grey matter you would have known that NWA or operational areas have been evacuated of civilians .. Civilians who are now placed in IDP camps .. But hey your not so bright to understand these things .. But have to hand it to you ... you are good at ranting like a parrot.
Now take a look at n.e and IOK ?

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Now keep shut and here is the post you couldn't find!

Pakistani POW composition was

56,998 armed forces regulars
18287 para military forces
4616 police
12760 civilians including 1628 civilian government servants, 3963 others and over 6000 women and children.

Totaling 92,661 POWs

So in total 75,285 soldiers( armed forces and paramilitary) surrendered in 1971.

Also use those buttons and see the stamp you can see children in it..

Look, I don't want to keep trading bellicose statements all day. As I said before, if any Indians boasted about non combatant children being taken POWs, point it out.

For the "second" part - true, it wasn't 67 years, but since 1970 - which is still longer than the operational service record of F-16s, and therefore my point was still valid. BTW you were claiming that figure of 1000 crashes was from the past two decades, which was a big fat lie, as I exposed. Anyway, reply on that thread if you want to continue being exposed. It is off topic here.

I said 2 or so .. Happens to be 3 decades .. Excellent record ..I bow down to your intelligence.

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It is Pakistan's own stamp!

See the children in that stamp ? Or those buttons ain't no good?

Now I do also have official number of deployment of troops whichever about 34000...but I doubt ... Ah forget it!