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Biggest caste survey: One in four Indians admit to practising untouchability

These are actually not Hinduism but thousand years practice of living here. Without bigotry practices we adopted all. As our way of life isnt similar to Arab world. Like marrying one woman only thrown out dowry practices. Thrown out caste system and made all same. We have no sectarian practices in BD. And people are more proud themselves as they dont think animals are better than them.
You don't know what is Hinduism. Then how do you say that these are thousand years practice? Hinduism is thousands of years old. :) Dowry practise is not in Hinduism.

Regarding caste - All people do the same work and earn the same in your place? Besides, caste is an English word coined to suit their taste and perception - that is when they first encountered it. The real term is Jati. Google that and let me know if you have questions. :agree:


After this we will discuss about 'alleged' 'bigotry' in your faith. :)
 
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Sorry even before the army came into picture for 2 years the hindus were fighting the razakaars, if you dont know about then i can only laugh about your ignorance.
Telugu is the official language and as long as it stays the first official language i am not bothered if anyone wants to speak swahili or spanish besides muslims speak urdu,we are not bothered about it.
Oh... so portugese and tipu didnt rule you?Your state is always ruled by a minority, while ours is not.
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Nope..We never had any mughal or major Islamic invasion like you...Tipus invasion was limited only to some North Kerala,that too for very short time period,Not prolonged like Mysore or Hyderabad.....
So what??..Urdu is official in your government records..Moreover your Brand ambassador is also from an urdu speaking community,isn't???..Hehe...Its your de facto language and culture..Try to accept the fact..
always ruled by minority??..what??..explain,please....
 
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Nope..We never had any mughal or major Islamic invasion like you...Tipus invasion was limited only to some North Kerala,that too for very short time period,Not prolonged like Mysore or Hyderabad.....
So what??..Urdu is official in your government records..Moreover your Brand ambassador is also from an urdu speaking community,isn't???..Hehe...Its your de facto language and culture..Try to accept the fact..
always ruled by minority??..what??..explain,please....
That is because we kept the islamic invasions at bay from you,
You were invaded by portugese and your land was getting increasingly smaller.

We keep the brand ambassador from minority to keep them appeased and feel somewhat secure.
urdu hardly anyone knows how to write it or read it,so whats the point?Like i said earlier they were given a place for appeasement.
Defacto langauge is Telugu, muslims speak urdu and they are considered non native,the native muslim speaks telugu.
No CM in AP was from a minority community.
 
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That is because we kept the islamic invasions at bay from you,
You were invaded by portugese and your land was getting increasingly smaller.

We keep the brand ambassador from minority to keep them appeased and feel somewhat secure.
urdu hardly anyone knows how to write it or read it,so whats the point?Like i said earlier they were given a place for appeasement.
Defacto langauge is Telugu, muslims speak urdu and they are considered non native,the native muslim speaks telugu.
No CM in AP was from a minority community.
Nope..I don't care if she is a native telegu speaking Muslim...but...
Portuguese were all gone long ago...we didn't had any remains like razakkars or urdu Muslims in our state like yours...Your own capital city is technically ruling by owasi and scums...
Minority in Kerala,both Muslims and Christians are native Malayalis only,ie local hindu converts,ie our blood...They are not outsiders or foreign language speakers like your case....Christian or Muslim CM is not a problem for us...
 
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urdu hardly anyone knows how to write it or read it,so whats the point?
I mean one can easily survive in Hyderabad for generations without knowing local language telegu and English...Hindi/Urdu is your de facto,business language of Hyderabad peoples..look that jihadi urdu poster mujahind is from your Hyderabad..Even after they are staying for generations but can't speak or understand a single telegu word...We can't blame them because telegu is NOT NEEDED in Hyderabad...
 
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I mean one can easily survive in Hyderabad for generations without knowing local language telegu and English...Hindi/Urdu is your de facto,business language of Hyderabad peoples..look that jihadi urdu poster mujahind is from your Hyderabad..Even after they are staying for generations but can't speak or understand a single telegu word...We can't blame them because telegu is NOT NEEDED in Hyderabad...
Sorry defacto business language is telugu or hindi not urdu.Even a small store owner will do business in Telugu or hindi,
Infact even the marwaris who come from rajasthan who speak hindi and Rajasthani tend to learn telugu to do business.
Similar is the case of Sikhs and other people.
LoL ever tried reading in urdu, it looks like arabic wont make any sense,every shops names are written in Telugu and english not urdu.
Apart from some in Hyderabad muslims, not everyone speaks urdu,That is why MIM cries from time to time that urdu needs resuscitation as its dying.
 
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Nope..I don't care if she is a native telegu speaking Muslim...but...
Portuguese were all gone long ago...we didn't had any remains like razakkars or urdu Muslims in our state like yours...Your own capital city is technically ruling by owasi and scums...
Minority in Kerala,both Muslims and Christians are native Malayalis only,ie local hindu converts,ie our blood...They are not outsiders or foreign language speakers like your case....Christian or Muslim CM is not a problem for us...
You still have remnants of Mapilla riot in your state, in case you forgot about it.
Razakaars are all gone to Pakistan.
Owaisi can only bark from his old city area, he has no power outside it, Raja Singh openly challenges him in owaisi constituency.
The only one who rules Hyderabad is Hindus, not muslims.All these years MIM is kept on a leash.Do you wonder why MIM loses election when they contest in Secunderabad which is part of the twin cities.
LoL you history has arabs, portugese settled and intermingled with you.
 
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Ha Ha intelluctual limitation :lol:
You are right I have less IQ than a moron who gloating here for shooting parents if they wish for some responsibility from their blood.

Well but that doesn't mean the parents have the right to kill their children in the name of preserving the honor of their respective families,does it??
 
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Well but that doesn't mean the parents have the right to kill their children in the name of preserving the honor of their respective families,does it??

He did not say this or advocated it in this thread. :coffee:
 
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Well but that doesn't mean the parents have the right to kill their children in the name of preserving the honor of their respective families,does it??

Of Course not.
But as a Son I will do anything for my parents .That is my responsibility.If I cant accomplish their wish ,according to my idealogy I dont deserve to live.As simple as that.
 
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Prejudice, even in pardes

An upper-caste Gujarati family who ran a grocery shop in the US wanted to know the name of the Indian sitting next to them in a private van in Pennsylvania. When his name did not reveal his caste, they probed further and asked for his surname. He said he was South Indian and didn't have a surname.

"I told them I knew why they were asking me these questions. They wanted to know my caste," says Sakya, who told them he was dalit. Over the next few days they sat as far away from him as possible while travelling together. Sakya, a PhD in history, says he has never faced any racial discrimination from white Americans; it's his own countrymen that have discriminated against him.

Education qualifications do little to erase the caste biases that Indians carry with them. A recent survey by the National Council of Applied Economic Research (NCAER) and the University of Maryland, US revealed that one in four Indians continue to practise untouchability in some form in their homes.

It's the same story across continents. The National Post writes of how, for dalits of Canada's British Columbia, the barbs are subtle. "They come in seemingly innocuous questions about your family village or last name...They show up in careless conversation, among friends, behind closed doors. A messy house is referred to as a chamar house."

Indian immigrant Kamlesh Ahir told the newspaper: "It doesn't matter if we are a doctor, teacher, because we belong to the lower castes.... They think we are bulls-t. We are zero....I'm in Canada ... But the bulls-t castes are still here. We live it every day."

"When Hindus move to other countries, the caste system transmigrates with them. Wherever Indians migrate to America, they build temples. They also export a Brahmin priest to perform the rituals in the temple. In this way the same structure repeats itself," says noted dalit scholar Kancha Ilaiah.

While New Jersey has one of the largest Hindu temples in the US, dalit entrepreneur Deelip Mhaske, a prominent member of the Indian community, is never invited to any cultural or religious Hindu function such as Diwali and Holi.

"The dalit gurdwara in Burnaby (British Columbia) was founded in 1982 after dalit worshippers felt unwelcome in an upper-caste gurdwara," writes Cheryl Chan in Canada's National Post. Chan points out the irony of the fact that Sikhism does not officially have a caste system.


A year ago, the British parliament officially outlawed caste discrimination. A UK government study had found evidence of caste-based discrimination at the workplace, in the delivery of services and in the education system. Coventry, a city in Central England, saw one of the most degrading cases of caste discrimination. "An elderly dalit lady was receiving home care from the city council, which would send a council worker to her house to bathe her. One of the council workers happened to be an Indian of a higher caste. When she discovered the lady was dalit, she refused to give her a bath," recalls Lekh Pall, an activist with the Anti-discrimination Alliance.

People often hide their identity as dalits as they do not want to be discriminated against, says Dr Sushant Godghate, a doctorate in engineering who lives in Japan. "I had an Indian colleague in Japan who I knew to be Buddhist (dalit convert). When I asked him if he would like to take part in the Ambedkarite movement in Japan he refused, saying he was not from the community," says Godghate.

Recently an upper-caste Hindu in an office in Japan overheard a dalit colleague talking of organizing protests over the brutal murder of three members of a dalit family in Maharashtra last month, an incident reminiscent of the Khairlanji killings. The dalit colleague says he and the upper-caste Hindu co-worker would earlier hang out together, but after this incident, the upper-caste colleague began to avoid him.

Recent protests in New York over the killings in Maharashtra saw several other groups join in, from African American church groups to Arab artists. However, upper-caste Indians were conspicuous by their absence.

In a paper on Australia's South Asian diaspora, Deakin University researcher Amit Sarwal argues that "despite the modern nature of South Asian diaspora in Australia and despite the egalitarian nature of Australia and even if caste as an institution cannot be practiced publicly or caste consciousness has not survived, this consciousness has very subtly merged into class consciousness and a demonstration of social status in relation to others. The 'others' being those who do not belong to the same jati, linguistic group and economical level..."

When an upper-caste Indian who has grown up in a deeply hierarchical society leaves India, he wants someone to dominate, says Chandra Bhan Prasad, mentor at the Dalit India Chamber of Commerce and Industry. "Africans in Durban say Indians treat them worse than whites do. For them, blacks are like dalits. But in countries like the US, where they have no one else to suppress, they turn on dalits," says Prasad.

Prejudice, even in pardes - The Times of India

Paid Survey's at the Best.First time in life read/heard that their is something called Dalit Gurdwara. :cheesy:
 
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Prejudice, even in pardes

An upper-caste Gujarati family who ran a grocery shop in the US wanted to know the name of the Indian sitting next to them in a private van in Pennsylvania. When his name did not reveal his caste, they probed further and asked for his surname. He said he was South Indian and didn't have a surname.

"I told them I knew why they were asking me these questions. They wanted to know my caste," says Sakya, who told them he was dalit. Over the next few days they sat as far away from him as possible while travelling together. Sakya, a PhD in history, says he has never faced any racial discrimination from white Americans; it's his own countrymen that have discriminated against him.

Education qualifications do little to erase the caste biases that Indians carry with them. A recent survey by the National Council of Applied Economic Research (NCAER) and the University of Maryland, US revealed that one in four Indians continue to practise untouchability in some form in their homes.

It's the same story across continents. The National Post writes of how, for dalits of Canada's British Columbia, the barbs are subtle. "They come in seemingly innocuous questions about your family village or last name...They show up in careless conversation, among friends, behind closed doors. A messy house is referred to as a chamar house."

Indian immigrant Kamlesh Ahir told the newspaper: "It doesn't matter if we are a doctor, teacher, because we belong to the lower castes.... They think we are bulls-t. We are zero....I'm in Canada ... But the bulls-t castes are still here. We live it every day."

"When Hindus move to other countries, the caste system transmigrates with them. Wherever Indians migrate to America, they build temples. They also export a Brahmin priest to perform the rituals in the temple. In this way the same structure repeats itself," says noted dalit scholar Kancha Ilaiah.

While New Jersey has one of the largest Hindu temples in the US, dalit entrepreneur Deelip Mhaske, a prominent member of the Indian community, is never invited to any cultural or religious Hindu function such as Diwali and Holi.

"The dalit gurdwara in Burnaby (British Columbia) was founded in 1982 after dalit worshippers felt unwelcome in an upper-caste gurdwara," writes Cheryl Chan in Canada's National Post. Chan points out the irony of the fact that Sikhism does not officially have a caste system.


A year ago, the British parliament officially outlawed caste discrimination. A UK government study had found evidence of caste-based discrimination at the workplace, in the delivery of services and in the education system. Coventry, a city in Central England, saw one of the most degrading cases of caste discrimination. "An elderly dalit lady was receiving home care from the city council, which would send a council worker to her house to bathe her. One of the council workers happened to be an Indian of a higher caste. When she discovered the lady was dalit, she refused to give her a bath," recalls Lekh Pall, an activist with the Anti-discrimination Alliance.

People often hide their identity as dalits as they do not want to be discriminated against, says Dr Sushant Godghate, a doctorate in engineering who lives in Japan. "I had an Indian colleague in Japan who I knew to be Buddhist (dalit convert). When I asked him if he would like to take part in the Ambedkarite movement in Japan he refused, saying he was not from the community," says Godghate.

Recently an upper-caste Hindu in an office in Japan overheard a dalit colleague talking of organizing protests over the brutal murder of three members of a dalit family in Maharashtra last month, an incident reminiscent of the Khairlanji killings. The dalit colleague says he and the upper-caste Hindu co-worker would earlier hang out together, but after this incident, the upper-caste colleague began to avoid him.

Recent protests in New York over the killings in Maharashtra saw several other groups join in, from African American church groups to Arab artists. However, upper-caste Indians were conspicuous by their absence.

In a paper on Australia's South Asian diaspora, Deakin University researcher Amit Sarwal argues that "despite the modern nature of South Asian diaspora in Australia and despite the egalitarian nature of Australia and even if caste as an institution cannot be practiced publicly or caste consciousness has not survived, this consciousness has very subtly merged into class consciousness and a demonstration of social status in relation to others. The 'others' being those who do not belong to the same jati, linguistic group and economical level..."

When an upper-caste Indian who has grown up in a deeply hierarchical society leaves India, he wants someone to dominate, says Chandra Bhan Prasad, mentor at the Dalit India Chamber of Commerce and Industry. "Africans in Durban say Indians treat them worse than whites do. For them, blacks are like dalits. But in countries like the US, where they have no one else to suppress, they turn on dalits," says Prasad.

Prejudice, even in pardes - The Times of India

Paid Survey's at the Best.First time in life read/heard that their is something called Dalit Gurdwara. :cheesy:

Some parts in this report seems like an exaggeration.But we should agree some retards still have this mentality.
 
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Of Course not.
But as a Son I will do anything for my parents .That is my responsibility.If I cant accomplish their wish ,according to my idealogy I dont deserve to live.As simple as that.

Lets agree to disagree then.I don't look at the life like you do..............or rather I can't.For example,my parents wanted me to be a doctor but I wanted to be a business man.They kept forcing me but I didn't budge and they've practically started to despise me ever since;they wanted me to be a so called 'good' person who would never bother about the things happening around him yet I grew up to be the exact opposite.They wanted me to learn music and keep away from 'fighting games' but I started practicing bare knuckle fighting.
As much as I respect them,I do not consider myself a mere tool to accomplish 'their' wish,even against and at the cost of my wish.No sir,I can't live my life like that and I certainly do not feel the urge to finish myself for that I couldn't/didn't fulfill their wish.I will do whatever I feel right and under no circumstances I would do something against my free will.........not even at the order of my parents.
I do not or rather can not share such an 'ideology' like yours..............or perhaps I do not have any ideology at all,but that's how I'm.So again,lets agree to disagree and move on.
 
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Prejudice, even in pardes

An upper-caste Gujarati family who ran a grocery shop in the US wanted to know the name of the Indian sitting next to them in a private van in Pennsylvania. When his name did not reveal his caste, they probed further and asked for his surname. He said he was South Indian and didn't have a surname.

"I told them I knew why they were asking me these questions. They wanted to know my caste," says Sakya, who told them he was dalit. Over the next few days they sat as far away from him as possible while travelling together. Sakya, a PhD in history, says he has never faced any racial discrimination from white Americans; it's his own countrymen that have discriminated against him.

Education qualifications do little to erase the caste biases that Indians carry with them. A recent survey by the National Council of Applied Economic Research (NCAER) and the University of Maryland, US revealed that one in four Indians continue to practise untouchability in some form in their homes.

It's the same story across continents. The National Post writes of how, for dalits of Canada's British Columbia, the barbs are subtle. "They come in seemingly innocuous questions about your family village or last name...They show up in careless conversation, among friends, behind closed doors. A messy house is referred to as a chamar house."

Indian immigrant Kamlesh Ahir told the newspaper: "It doesn't matter if we are a doctor, teacher, because we belong to the lower castes.... They think we are bulls-t. We are zero....I'm in Canada ... But the bulls-t castes are still here. We live it every day."

"When Hindus move to other countries, the caste system transmigrates with them. Wherever Indians migrate to America, they build temples. They also export a Brahmin priest to perform the rituals in the temple. In this way the same structure repeats itself," says noted dalit scholar Kancha Ilaiah.

While New Jersey has one of the largest Hindu temples in the US, dalit entrepreneur Deelip Mhaske, a prominent member of the Indian community, is never invited to any cultural or religious Hindu function such as Diwali and Holi.

"The dalit gurdwara in Burnaby (British Columbia) was founded in 1982 after dalit worshippers felt unwelcome in an upper-caste gurdwara," writes Cheryl Chan in Canada's National Post. Chan points out the irony of the fact that Sikhism does not officially have a caste system.


A year ago, the British parliament officially outlawed caste discrimination. A UK government study had found evidence of caste-based discrimination at the workplace, in the delivery of services and in the education system. Coventry, a city in Central England, saw one of the most degrading cases of caste discrimination. "An elderly dalit lady was receiving home care from the city council, which would send a council worker to her house to bathe her. One of the council workers happened to be an Indian of a higher caste. When she discovered the lady was dalit, she refused to give her a bath," recalls Lekh Pall, an activist with the Anti-discrimination Alliance.

People often hide their identity as dalits as they do not want to be discriminated against, says Dr Sushant Godghate, a doctorate in engineering who lives in Japan. "I had an Indian colleague in Japan who I knew to be Buddhist (dalit convert). When I asked him if he would like to take part in the Ambedkarite movement in Japan he refused, saying he was not from the community," says Godghate.

Recently an upper-caste Hindu in an office in Japan overheard a dalit colleague talking of organizing protests over the brutal murder of three members of a dalit family in Maharashtra last month, an incident reminiscent of the Khairlanji killings. The dalit colleague says he and the upper-caste Hindu co-worker would earlier hang out together, but after this incident, the upper-caste colleague began to avoid him.

Recent protests in New York over the killings in Maharashtra saw several other groups join in, from African American church groups to Arab artists. However, upper-caste Indians were conspicuous by their absence.

In a paper on Australia's South Asian diaspora, Deakin University researcher Amit Sarwal argues that "despite the modern nature of South Asian diaspora in Australia and despite the egalitarian nature of Australia and even if caste as an institution cannot be practiced publicly or caste consciousness has not survived, this consciousness has very subtly merged into class consciousness and a demonstration of social status in relation to others. The 'others' being those who do not belong to the same jati, linguistic group and economical level..."

When an upper-caste Indian who has grown up in a deeply hierarchical society leaves India, he wants someone to dominate, says Chandra Bhan Prasad, mentor at the Dalit India Chamber of Commerce and Industry. "Africans in Durban say Indians treat them worse than whites do. For them, blacks are like dalits. But in countries like the US, where they have no one else to suppress, they turn on dalits," says Prasad.

Prejudice, even in pardes - The Times of India

Paid Survey's at the Best.First time in life read/heard that their is something called Dalit Gurdwara. :cheesy:

Life main bahut kuch paheli baar hi hota hain,hai ki nahi.You may haven't heard before,doesn't mean no such thing exists.Don't bury your head under the sand,man.Even in the so called 'progressive' Bengal,there is indeed a big issue regarding this untouchability bull-crap,especially in the rural areas.I can only wonder how the situation might be in the not so progressive states.After all,there is a reason why many people in the villages still do not use the sanitary toilets the government has provided them with and prefers to do it in the open!!You guessed it right............they just don't want the dalit 'safaiwalas' to enter their property!!Why??Because they are untouchables according to the higher caste dumb fucks.They would do anything to keep them out of their home,even at the cost of endangering the lives of the new born children!!They are ready to sacrifice their children just to 'protect' their purity!!Wonder why still a vast majority of the infants in our country,mostly in the villages,are still short and malnourished even compared to many African ones??
 
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@Omega007 I call spade a Spade, no point in burying head in sand. I know to some extent what is written in article is correct and mostly exaggerated.

However, I don't believe and will never believe in the part which I highlighted. My Religion doesn't teach such things. Visit any Gurdwara anywhere in the World. No one is going to ask you about your religion or discriminate with you. The only thing you'll be asked to is to cover your head Cloak. That is it.
 
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