Biden says "PAKISTAN ONE OF THE WORLD'S MOST DANGEROUS COUNTRIES" adds bit about NUKES too

[Olympus81]

You guys raise some good points.

The Pakistani deep state is still strong and any talks of a break up are fantasies.

Zooming out a bit our policy towards India is fine. But Afghanistan is just the opposite. Due to some Pan Islamic pipe dream we accommodate Afghanistan and elements inside to the cost of Pakistan’s national security.

We accommodate TTP in early 2000s until they wrecked havoc inside of Pakistan. We are doing the same with Afghan Taliban. The Afghans (TTP/Taliban/NA) are a treacherous bunch and Pakistan needs to deal with them with an iron fist.

The fencing of the border with Afghanistan was the best move in decades. And the tribals on the Pakistani side need to be slapped into believing that any Afghans represent a threat. Materially (with all their terrorists) and socially (export of religious extremism).

 

[Dalit]

You guys raise some good points.

The Pakistani deep state is still strong and any talks of a break up are fantasies.

Zooming out a bit our policy towards India is fine. But Afghanistan is just the opposite. Due to some Pan Islamic pipe dream we accommodate Afghanistan and elements inside to the cost of Pakistan’s national security.

We accommodate TTP in early 2000s until they wrecked havoc inside of Pakistan. We are doing the same with Afghan Taliban. The Afghans (TTP/Taliban/NA) are a treacherous bunch and Pakistan needs to deal with them with an iron fist.

The fencing of the border with Afghanistan was the best move in decades. And the tribals on the Pakistani side need to be slapped into believing that any Afghans represent a threat. Materially (with all their terrorists) and socially (export of religious extremism).

It is all too late for fixing things. Pakistan has a multitude of problems with a failing economy and inept civilian rulers. The military is busy appeasing the Americans. The chances of fixing Pakistan's internal and external problems are slim. Pakistan is struggling and it's enemies smell blood.

Pakistan was in better shape with Imran Khan. The Americans made sure that Imran was replaced. Pakistan isn't going to get anywhere with PDM and Bajwa.

 

[ahaider97]

not our fault nothing grows in the barren dust bowl nor did any civilization ever come out of it, if ancient people came looking for food and opportunities in a land that was amongst the more prosperous regions of the world

PS Muhajirs contribute/ed more to us in EVERY field than you can imagine, took control of our bureaucracy and made it the fastest growing country of Asia, still along with middle class urban central Punjab in diaspora you'd rarely find the next generation not perusing a degree

I would prefer 1 blind, bedridden, deaf of them over your disrespectful behind before you try to act all smart towards other Pakistanis

I dont indulge in this backward African style tribalism, I hate it but your constant and consistent provocations showing your lack of mental well being leaves me no choice

It's called cope, they used to invade our lands but now a few Punjabi dudes in rawalpindi make decisions that affect the future of their nation. But it's our duty to stay humble, what Allah has given he can take back, just like He took it back from them. Our ancestors must be really proud of us for finally getting ahead of the Afghans, lmao.

Don't worry, everything will be alright.
- A Punjabi dude in Kabul, Afghanistan

 

[Irfan Baloch]

He is right. A failed state with nukes is dangerous.


A Treason Army a corrupt judiciary and a corrupt Parliamentary system.

his reasons are different and he doesn't share the heartburn of the Pakistanis when he called Pakistan dangerous.

my guess is that he just read what was given to him. might be Indian influence through Indian lobby to insert Pakistan to keep bad Pakistan mantra alive.
It was a political speech during midterms. and mentioning Pakistan was a little out of place when its actually Russia , energy crises , Iran and then China which is the main focus of Americans.

but the comments were not spontaneous, they were planned and written for him to speak. why? who knows. there is definitely political and economic difficulty and unstable security due to the resurgence of Afghan Taliban's dear cousins back in Swat add on top of that the country has nuclear weapons.

our government doesn't need to teach Americans our security protocols and nuclear command and controls because they not only monitor it but have their say in setting them up. the only issue is that Americans would rather we don't have these weapons because that is against their strategic plans but for whatever reasons Pakistan on one day give them up then it will suffer a worse consequence than Iraq, Libya and Syria combined.
so Pakistan rather remain a most dangerous country due to its nuclear arsenal to safeguard itself from becoming another middle eastern and African pet project.

 

[Dalit]

his reasons are different and he doesn't share the heartburn of the Pakistanis when he called Pakistan dangerous.

my guess is that he joke read what was given to him. might be Indian influence through Indian lobby to insert Pakistan to keep bad Pakistan mantra alive.
It was a political speech during midterms. and mentioning Pakistan was a little out of place when its actually Russia , energy crises , Iran and then China which is the main focus of Americans.

but the comments were not spontaneous, they were planned and written for him to speak. why? who knows. there is definitely political and economic difficulty and unstable security due to the resurgence of Afghan Taliban's dear cousins back in Swat add on top of that the country has nuclear weapons.

our government doesn't need to teach Americans our security protocols and nuclear command and controls because they not only monitor it but have their say in setting them up. the only issue is that Americans would rather we don't have these weapons because that is against their strategic plans but for whatever reasons Pakistan on one day give them up then it will suffer a worse consequence than Iraq, Libya and Syria combined.
so Pakistan rather remain a most dangerous country due to its nuclear arsenal to safeguard itself from becoming another middle eastern and African pet project.

Exactly. Biden's sudden reminder against Pakistani nukes didn't fall from the sky. It was scripted. One would argue that the Western world is currently occupied with a multitude of great challanges. Why would Pakistan figure in it? Well it clearly does. Biden has gone as far as claiming that Pakistan is the most dangerous country on the planet. You only claim such things when you seek trouble with the opposing side. The Americans are clearly looking for trouble with Pakistan. The American deep state is butt hurt about Pakistan's nuclear capability. Each passing day is difficult.

You have said it correctly. Eventually the Americans would like Pakistan to become some pet project where they can call the shots at a whim. The goal is to weaken Pakistan to an extreme extent. The Americans have a lot of grudges against Pakistan. The hurt is deep.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

It's called cope, they used to invade our lands but now a few Punjabi dudes in rawalpindi make decisions that affect the future of their nation. But it's our duty to stay humble, what Allah has given he can take back, just like He took it back from them. Our ancestors must be really proud of us for finally getting ahead of the Afghans, lmao.

Don't worry, everything will be alright.
- A Punjabi dude in Kabul, Afghanistan

dont be racist towards Punjabis, what they did few centuries ago (explained at the end) is not the fault of Punjabis in Pindi.
trust me when I say this
any self respecting Baloch, Sindhi , Kashmiri or Pashton will happily do the bidding of any foreign power if the price is right.



Punjabis centuries ago, directed / supported and facilitated all foreign invaders from North and west to the rest of the India to loot , rape and plunder.

 

[hussain0216]

The best and brightest mind of Pakistan choose to leave Pakistan.

Hope the best for Pakistan.

The diaspora plows about 32 billion into Pakistan every single year

We have waiting for these idiots to get their acts together for decades

And they don't want to, they want to indulge in endless rounds of useless local politics that does nothing for Pakistan

You think your tired imagine what we feel

 

[ahaider97]

Punjabis centuries ago, directed / supported and facilitated all foreign invaders from North and west to the rest of the India to loot , rape and plunder.

Not our fault, we were constantly getting invaded from the west, we had to adopt. By the grace of Almighty Allah, not only did we survive, Allah today has given wealth and power more than those who used to invade us.

Praise be to Allah.

 

[Genghis khan1]

Delusional Yankee. Our proxies are now in charge of Afghanistan. You spend 2 trillion USD and lost while Pakistan and it's allies spend maybe not even 1% and achieved victory.

No bro, US just spent 1% of interest payments that Pakistan repaid and install proxy govt in Pakistan.

US spent trillions on wars, but guess what. Printer go brrrr..

 

[hussain0216]

You guys raise some good points.

The Pakistani deep state is still strong and any talks of a break up are fantasies.

Zooming out a bit our policy towards India is fine. But Afghanistan is just the opposite. Due to some Pan Islamic pipe dream we accommodate Afghanistan and elements inside to the cost of Pakistan’s national security.

We accommodate TTP in early 2000s until they wrecked havoc inside of Pakistan. We are doing the same with Afghan Taliban. The Afghans (TTP/Taliban/NA) are a treacherous bunch and Pakistan needs to deal with them with an iron fist.

The fencing of the border with Afghanistan was the best move in decades. And the tribals on the Pakistani side need to be slapped into believing that any Afghans represent a threat. Materially (with all their terrorists) and socially (export of religious extremism).

Think about it if the Hindus did this, we would have mass slaughtered them and mountains of Hindu skulls


But between the pashtuns looking at afghans as their own and our own religious view of afghans as Muslim brothers

We allowed those parasites into Pakistan to bring their donkey behaviour that has destroyed Afghanistan into Pakistan

And they have provided fuel to everyone from BLA to drugs gangs



Loyal Pakistani pashtuns are a different people,,,. But the afghani tribal types are absolute scum of the WORST kind and we let them in

 

[Mugen]

Thnak you for your service to the US, mir Bajwa and PDM.

 

[LeGenD]

Probably. Life will go on in Pakistan. Many Pakistanis are too stupid and lazy to even realize what the consequences are.

The writing is on the wall though. You have the most powerful leader in the world openly targeting Pakistani nuclear capability without a second throught. What Biden uttered aren't solely his throughts. He spoke on behalf of the entire US and Western gang. You cannot possibly pretend that American meddling in Pakistani affairs is healthy because essentially you are.

In the end Pakistan will be broken up in many pieces because what follows denuclearization is no secret to anyone.

Pakistani Public is not stupid. People desire a stable and prosperous country which our leaders are unable to create.

I do not buy denuclearization theory. Many in Pakistan don't.

Now let us be honest with each other.

Do WE have a coherent foreign policy? No.

Just look at the mess WE have created in Afghanistan. Progressive Afghanistan was not acceptable.

TTP attacks Pakistani troops in times of Ghani administration = Ghani administration is on Indian payroll

TTP attacks Pakistani troops in times of Afghan Taliban = Nevermind

Afghanistan was the litmus test for Pakistan - US relations after 9/11. US envisioned a moderate Afghanistan but our establishment and Khan (handsome).

Americans dismantled Al-Qaeda Network and obtained written assurance from Afghan Taliban while our troops continue to die. Woe to us.

Our leaders do whatever they want to but our anchors pin the blame on others. Biden nay yeh kah diya woh kah diya. He does not even meets a Pakistani official. So much respect.

Now that Pakistani establishment have created a paradise of Mullahs in Afghanistan, why not be content with this achievement? Maybe these people will bankroll Pakistan. Strategic depth, dear.

These people ditched US long ago. Now looking for a reset. Facepalm.

 

[Enigma SIG]

The problem is Pakistan don't even help themselves. As what many say, plenty of traitors waiting to sell out national interest for their personal gains. There is no national identity and belonging Pakistan.

This country has only given birth to traitors.

 

[Beast]

This country has only given birth to traitors.

@Arsalan345

This is a good description of you.

 

[Enigma SIG]

Lol. Imran Khan is going to be killed soon. Pakistan is finished.

Yes. US Milstablishment salivating on the prospects of a civil war; which gives them a golden chance to land US troops. Taking control of Pakistan militarily creates a huge buffer zone right next to China for the US.

US has tried to wrest control of India from Russia but they are a sovereign country and dictate their own terms to a large extent. Balkanisation is coming for Pakistan and everyone knows it. PDM being the little bitches they are will flee the moment the first shot is fired; or Bilawal will expose his soft end just to make sure his life is spared.

Everyone knows what happens to a corrupt army that is out of touch. Russia is barely managing to overcome its shortcomings because it is a huge country with a lot of heavy military industry. Not the same with Pakistan; where we have real estate agents in charge of the war making.

What is the army going to do? Lob DHA houses at the enemy? Maybe throw them some Fauji corn cereal as well. If that don't work maybe send them askari cement so they can fortify their positions.