Biden says "PAKISTAN ONE OF THE WORLD'S MOST DANGEROUS COUNTRIES" adds bit about NUKES too

[Maula Jatt]

He claims his grandma is Pashtun, a desi fairytale.

not our fault nothing grows in the barren dust bowl nor did any civilization ever come out of it, if ancient people came looking for food and opportunities in a land that was amongst the more prosperous regions of the world

PS Muhajirs contribute/ed more to us in EVERY field than you can imagine, took control of our bureaucracy and made it the fastest growing country of Asia, still along with middle class urban central Punjab in diaspora you'd rarely find the next generation not perusing a degree

I would prefer 1 blind, bedridden, deaf of them over your disrespectful behind before you try to act all smart towards other Pakistanis

I dont indulge in this backward African style tribalism, I hate it but your constant and consistent provocations showing your lack of mental well being leaves me no choice

 

[Dalit]

This statement changes nothing on the ground in Pakistan. People will continue to do business with Americans as usual.

Much of the noise is on TV and forums like PDF. Anchors are busy creating a story from a statement. Most will sell their manjan to the gullible and earn bucks from their videos uploaded on YouTube.

Real problem will be overlooked as usual. It does not sits well with the populist digital narrative. This is why Pakistan does not have solution for its problems.

You being an overseas do not understand Pakistani public well enough. I do.

Probably. Life will go on in Pakistan. Many Pakistanis are too stupid and lazy to even realize what the consequences are.

The writing is on the wall though. You have the most powerful leader in the world openly targeting Pakistani nuclear capability without a second thought. What Biden uttered aren't solely his thoughts. He spoke on behalf of the entire US and Western gang. You cannot possibly pretend that American meddling in Pakistani affairs is healthy because essentially you are.

In the end Pakistan will be broken up in many pieces because what follows denuclearization is no secret to anyone.

Pakistan is nearing default. Biden is setting terms for the bailout. One of the objectives will be to denuclearize the country.

If Pakistan defaults, Bajwa should be hanged. Pakistan has been brought to its knees by this regime change. If Pakistani nation was alive, Bajwa would have been pulled out of GHQ and lynched on the streets.

The problem is Pakistan is that no one is held accountable. Those who should be in jail, are imposed on the country through regime change assisted by military leadership.

Bajwa will be long gone. He is an American and European asset.

 

[Mrc]

Probably. Life will go on in Pakistan. Many Pakistanis are too stupid and lazy to even realize what the consequences are.

The writing is on the wall though. You have the most powerful leader in the world openly targeting Pakistani nuclear capability without a second throught. What Biden uttered aren't solely his throughts. He spoke on behalf of the entire US and Western gang. You cannot possibly pretend that American meddling in Pakistani affairs is healthy because essentially you are.

In the end Pakistan will end up broken in many pieces because what follows denuclearization is no secret to anyone.

But this is not first time . It's been said by Americans many time and actually white house pointed it out that it's nothing new

Why some people are so excited about it is beyond me

 

[Dalit]

Yes it will definitely. The only reason US is supplying weapons to these Generals is due to CHINA supplying weapons. As soon as China stops this supply, US will start putting sanctions or it was demand more from these Generals or it will only give them basic weapons only. This has always happened with the US; things only changed when China started providing BETTER Quality weapons to these Fascist Generals.

CHINA NEEDS TO STOP SUPPLYING WEAPONS TO THESE BULLIES !!!

The Americans did a fantastic job of disrupting Pak China relations. Pakistan finally had something going in the shape of CPEC. The Americans were obsessed with getting Pakistan out of the Chinese orbit. Bajwa finally delivered the final blow. Have a look at Pak China cooperation which has virtually come to a stillstand.

But this is not first time . It's been said by Americans many time and actually white house pointed it out that it's nothing new

There is a stark difference between this time and before. Pakistan is economically bankrupt and being led by a bunch of corrupt and inept leeches. The Americans imported these leeches after all. The Americans are preparing the ground for nuclear demands. Pakistan won't receive a cent before it hands over its entire nuclear capability.

Don't downplay these remarks by Joe Biden. The remarks made by Biden have a lot of weight. They have meaning. The Americans have always targetted Pakistani nuclear capability because they want to get rid of them. They don't repeat anti-Pakistan rhetoric for many years for no reason. For you to sit back and pretend that all will be fine is a problem in itself. Your sitting government was recently changed by the Americans in broad daylight. This should ring alarm bells, but it won't. You will pay the ultimate price.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

not our fault nothing grows in the barren dust bowl nor did any civilization ever come out of it, if ancient people came looking for food and opportunities in a land that was amongst the more prosperous regions of the world

PS Muhajirs contribute/ed more to us in EVERY field than you can imagine, took control of our bureaucracy and made it the fastest growing country of Asia, still along with middle class urban central Punjab in diaspora you'd rarely find the next generation not perusing a degree

I would prefer 1 blind, bedridden, deaf of them over your disrespectful behind before you try to act all smart towards other Pakistanis

I dont indulge in this backward African style tribalism, I hate it but your constant and consistent provocations showing your lack of mental well being leaves me no choice

He is probably a muhajir from the land of milk and honey himself...

 

[Dalit]

If China don't give, the American will give. See how now they talk about supporting PAF F-16 and all US goodies coming along after those general sell out themselves. It's not so simple of China stop dealing with PA. Others will be quick to fill the void.

You think just becos China stop dealing with PA will stop the rot of Pakistan?

100% correct. The rot in Pakistan won't stop. The US always claims it has no interest in Pakistan. The US always claims it doesn't interfere in Pakistan. We all know that this is far from the truth. The Americans have a reliable partner in the shape of Pakistani army. This is where the real rot lies.

 

[Mrc]

The Americans did a fantastic job of disrupting Pak China relations. Pakistan finally had something going in the shape of CPEC. The Americans were obsessed with getting Pakistan out of the Chinese orbit. Bajwa finally delivered the final blow. Have a look at Pak China cooperation which has virtually come to a stillstand.



There is a stark difference between this time and before. Pakistan is economically bankrubrokeng being led by a bunch of corrupt and inept leeches. The Americans imported these leeches after all. The Americans are preparing the ground for nuclear demands. Pakistan won't receive a cent before it hands over its entire nuclear capability.

Don't downplay these remarks by Joe Biden. The remarks made by Biden have a lot of weight. They have meaning. The Americans have always targetted Pakistani nuclear capability because they want to get rid og them. They don't repeat anti-Pakistan rhetoric for many years for no reason. For you to sit back and pretend that all will be fine is a problem in itself. Your sitting government was recently changed by the Americans in broad daylight. This should ring alarm bells, but it won't. You will pay the ultimate price.

Well time will tell. I don't agree with your assessment.

The problems start when you blindly believing political posturing and inter mingling it with every thing else .

It wasn't Khan that detonated the bomb in 1998. That were the same corrupt who are in power today ...

That's my assessment .

Let the time play out ..

 

[Dalit]

Dude, I told you and the other chap this fact more than a year ago that China has made a blunder by investing in CPEC. The other chap made fun of me. China needs to recognized just one fact and one fact alone -- PAKISTAN PEOPLE AND THEIR LANDS ARE BEING KEPT HOSTAGES BY PAKISTAN MILITARY GENERALS SINCE 1947 BECAUSE THESE GENERALS ARE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE BRITISH RAJ AND THEY STILL REPORT INTO UK ESTABLISHMENT !!

This is the sad fact.

Once again, if China wants to help Pakistan, PLEASE ASK YOUR GOVERNMENT TO BOYCOTT PAKISTANI GENERALS, STOP SUPPLYING THEM WEAPONS, PUT SANCTIONS ON THEM. SUPPORT PAKISTAN PEOPLE DIRECTLY SO THAT THEY CAN RISE UP AGAINST THESE FASCIST GENERALS AND FREE THEMSELVES OF THEIR VICIOUS CLUTCHES.

THIS IS THE ONLY WAY.

The double dealing of Pakistanis is coming to a swift end. Just look at the state of Pakistan. If you really want to guage world response with regards to Pakistan just have a look at the flood response. Usually outcasts receive some form of aid and help in time of dire need. Political differences are usually set aside for a moment. Pakistan received virtually 0 assistance from the world community when it endured extreme floods. Why? LOL The WB is now tasked with providing loans what they term assistance. Even the expats haven't sent money to assist the country. People are tired. The world isn't crazy. There are consequences when you play one side against the other. We have no loyalty nor principles. We are a greedy and disloyal nation.

Well time will tell. I don't agree with your assessment.

The problems start when you blindly believing political posturing and inter mingling it with every thing else .

It wasn't Khan that detonated the bomb in 1998. That were the same corrupt who are in power today ...

That's my assessment .

Let the time play out ..

We will see. The Americans have made up their mind this time around. It is time to finish unfinished business. Pakistan was always on the list, but due to unforseen reasons the Americans never dealt with it accordingly. After the regime change episode the Americans mean business. The tone has been set.

 

[Mrc]

The double dealing of Pakistanis is coming to a swift end. Just look at the state of Pakistan. If you really want to guage world response with regards to Pakistan just have a look at the flood response. Usually outcasts receive some form of aid and help in time of dire need. Political differences are usually set aside for a moment. Pakistan received virtually 0 assistance from the world community when it endured extreme floods. Why? Even the expats haven't sent money to assist the country. People are tired.



We will see. The Americans have made up their mind this time around. It is time to finish unfinished business. Pakistan was always on the list, but due to unforseen reasons the Americans never dealt with it accordingly. After the regime change episode the Americans mean business. The tone has been set.

Wow
Ok . ..

Let's bring Imran Khan back give him an army chief of choice and do it immediately...

As I said don't believe everything said politically .

If any thing, this statement actually goes against regime change narrative if you think of it

Why would Biden put his hand picked people on spot?

 

[Dalit]

Wow
Ok . ..

Let's bring Imran Khan back give him an army chief of choice and do it immediately...

As I said don't believe everything said politically .

If any thing, this statement actually goes against regime change narrative if you think of it

Why would Biden put his hand picked people on spot?

You can pose as many irrelivant questions as you like. They have no meaning. The bitter fact is that the Americans are after Pakistani nuclear capabilty. The remarks by Joey weren't a joke. He means it. So does the entire Western bandwagon. It is absolutely no secret that the Western powers want to denuclearise Pakistan. The latest remarks fit the foul intentions.

 

[Olympus81]

I hear theories like Pakistan will be balkanized and broken up. The chances of that happening is close to 0. The 4 provinces of Pakistan are intact and ethnic tensions between ethnicities are very low. The Pashtons, Punjabis, Balochis, Sindhis are reasonably happy. So let’s put the breakup theory to rest.

There are more of inter fiqh tensions than ethnic ones.

In my opinion, Pakistan needs to move towards a secular constitution. Sure we can remain an Islamic Republic, but Pakistan is a country that represents majority muslims (for all fiqhs) and non muslims.

We all know what happened when Zia injected Pakistan with his brand of rule. It gave rise to extremism of all kinds and sectarian violence. I believe religion is too much of a personal issue to bring forward in governance. There is absolutely no consensus between religious scholars to which brand to follow.

MA Jinnah in his multiple statements wanted a full fledged democracy following the basic tenets of Islam.

 

[Mrc]

You can pose all the irrelivant questions all day long. They have no meaning. The bitter fact is that the Americans are after Pakistani nuclear capabilty. The remarks by Joey weren't a joke. He means it. So does the entire Western bandwagon. It is absolutely no secret that the Western powers want to denuclearise Pakistan.

And that's true since 1990 .
I agree .
I also agree something is cooking, may not be the dish you point at ( very crude conclusion) ..

That also means no reset in ties and it also means there is no collusion otherwise Biden would not have put it out to whole world.

That also means bajwas steps to keep Pakistan in Americans or neutral camp has failed and he is gone in 4 weeks so that's that.
And this statement may actually be American frustration on that....
Rest that remains is American pressure which we have taken on this issue since 1990 .
So yes we will see

Btw I will vote Khan every time against others but doesn't mean whole world shud burn if he is not in power for few months

 

[hussain0216]

All the “villains” of Pakistan were right

Mahmood Achakzai and Akbar Bugti were right since day one.

They were part of the problem, it was a self fulfilling prophecy, you have disloyal, treacherous people like them creating endless fassad, how would you govern or move forward

They were part of the problem that bought us to this point and now they are replaced by other wali, dawars and pashteens it's the same endless shit

 

[Dalit]

I hear theories like Pakistan will be balkanized and broken up. The chances of that happening is close to 0. The 4 provinces of Pakistan are intact and ethnic tensions between ethnicities are very low. The Pashtons, Punjabis, Balochis, Sindhis are reasonably happy. So let’s put the breakup theory to rest.

There are more of inter fiqh tensions than ethnic ones.

In my opinion, Pakistan needs to move towards a secular constitution. Sure we can remain an Islamic Republic, but Pakistan is a country that represents majority muslims (for all fiqhs) and non muslims.

We all know what happened when Zia injected Pakistan with his brand of rule. It gave rise to extremism of all kinds and sectarian violence. I believe religion is too much of a personal issue to bring forward in governance. There is absolutely no consensus between religious scholars to which brand to follow.

MA Jinnah in his multiple statements wanted a full fledged democracy following the basic tenets of Islam.

Pakistan is today accused for so many transgressions by the entire Western world. From possessing an incoherent nuclear capability to supporting so-called terrorism etc. The Western list of Pakistani transgressions is pretty big. There is also general consensus among Western powers to help India defeat Pakistan. The Western powers are by design providing India with the latest military gadgets and strengthening Indian economy. The West got into bed with India to contain China. Pakistani partnership and cooperation with China is another sin in the eyes of the Western powers. There is no two ways about it. The West has assisted Pakistan for a considerable time both economically and otherwise. In the hope it would yield certain outcomes. It hasn't yielded any outcomes. I believe the Western powers are now tackling the thorn called Pakistan. The regime change was one of many steps to strangle Pakistan. Economically Pakistan doesn't represent much. The next steps from the West are more relentless pressure. Joey mentioned the nukes and he did that with a very clear goal in mind.

 

[hussain0216]

I hear theories like Pakistan will be balkanized and broken up. The chances of that happening is close to 0. The 4 provinces of Pakistan are intact and ethnic tensions between ethnicities are very low. The Pashtons, Punjabis, Balochis, Sindhis are reasonably happy. So let’s put the breakup theory to rest.

There are more of inter fiqh tensions than ethnic ones.

In my opinion, Pakistan needs to move towards a secular constitution. Sure we can remain an Islamic Republic, but Pakistan is a country that represents majority muslims (for all fiqhs) and non muslims.

We all know what happened when Zia injected Pakistan with his brand of rule. It gave rise to extremism of all kinds and sectarian violence. I believe religion is too much of a personal issue to bring forward in governance. There is absolutely no consensus between religious scholars to which brand to follow.

MA Jinnah in his multiple statements wanted a full fledged democracy following the basic tenets of Islam.

No Pakistan won't collapse, the core of the state and Military will take care of any threat to the state

But the state of Pakistani is pathetic, we have core nationalists surrounded by lanats of the WORST kind

Retarded pashtuns and Baloch killing and blowing things up, not allowing any development or peace, sindhis not allowing any dams or development then crying about floods and droughts

I actually respect Punjab they are the only ones who half get on with things in this country and willing to give others a chance

Azad Kashmir too is mostly fine with a big diaspora

We won't collapse but we won't develop at this rate either whilst the world move's ahead




We have been lucky the Indians have been inept in their own right otherwise we have so many lanats ready to pounce on Pakistan

The Afghan Republic tried repeatedly but those people are low in intelligence and we managed to screw them worse